Windower 3.4 Released

[Dantrag]

I don't auto load expwatch. TParty and SSo w/e it is completely crash my game.

edit: too much crashing... back to 3.3 :/

[arus2001]

Noticed I'll always crash if I try to bring up Task Manager, but that might be since Windows jumps to that weird menu right after you ctrl+alt+del. There a way to disable that, or anyone else have similar issues? Using XP.

[Lhayla]

Thanks a lot. I hope this one does not crash on Windows Vista like 3.3 used to. Everything is working fine, hopefully it will stay as that

[Espera]

YES!

[orson]

So far fairly mixed reactions, yet 90% of the time it's only the people that have problems that complain.

If I'm not having any problems should I just stay with 3.3 for now you think?

[Aikar]

Do not post bug reports and questions and such in this thread, please post on our forums....

I'm not reading much over here, nor do they belong here.

& sorry for the ambientlight settings, that musta slipped in a copy/paste when i was copying the new settings from my init to the packaged init. I personally use those settings because it gives the game a more blueish tint that looks nice to me

I fixed that line in the download.

[LinktheDeme]

This is probably not related, but my rommate got windower 3.4 today, and when he went out of the house someone logged on his account and changed his Pw.
and no, noone else had his PW info, not even me.
So take care.

ps: to all those who will accuse me of beeing anti-windower blabla I use it myself

I'm concerned on the validity of this post is there anyway to prove whether or not the incident is related to windower? Or just coincidental or hes just full of shit?

[Deftscythe]

This is probably not related, but my rommate got windower 3.4 today, and when he went out of the house someone logged on his account and changed his Pw.
and no, noone else had his PW info, not even me.
So take care.

ps: to all those who will accuse me of beeing anti-windower blabla I use it myself

I'm concerned on the validity of this post is there anyway to prove whether or not the incident is related to windower? Or just coincidental or hes just full of shit?

If the people behind the windower wanted to steal accounts, do you really think they A) just stop with one or B) be dumb enough to do it on the day they released a new version and make their guilt totally obvious?

[Taruhealingwind]

This is probably not related, but my rommate got windower 3.4 today, and when he went out of the house someone logged on his account and changed his Pw.
and no, noone else had his PW info, not even me.
So take care.

ps: to all those who will accuse me of beeing anti-windower blabla I use it myself

I'm concerned on the validity of this post is there anyway to prove whether or not the incident is related to windower? Or just coincidental or hes just full of shit?

sorry if i'm bothered enough to warn people that there might be a slight chance my friend got hacked by new windower.

by the number of my posts you can probably deduce I have nothing else to do than go around on forums comming up with hoaxes just to draw attention to myself

[Sonomaa]

This is probably not related, but my rommate got windower 3.4 today, and when he went out of the house someone logged on his account and changed his Pw.
and no, noone else had his PW info, not even me.
So take care.
ps: to all those who will accuse me of beeing anti-windower blabla I use it myself

I'm concerned on the validity of this post is there anyway to prove whether or not the incident is related to windower? Or just coincidental or hes just full of shit?

sorry if i'm bothered enough to warn people that there might be a slight chance my friend got hacked by new windower

if starhawk wanted our accounts he would have taken them long ago
if aikar put something in there to steal accounts, starhawk would have caught it
your friend fucked up

[AzazaelFenrir]

Is the only improvement in 3.4 the fix of some "issues"? I have never had any problems with 3.3 and I am not sure that the issues even are.

What is the benefit to upgrading?

If I understood correctly some of the new plugins will require 3.4. Don't quote me on that though. Besides more stability is always a big plus

I understood it exactly opposite.

Previous applications written to use Windower Helper WILL BE BROKEN!!!!

Application Developers are urged to update their application, and add support for the new MMF Name.

I have always upgraded windower beacuse SE broke something in the previous version. I run 3 windowed accounts at the same time with all my macros being windows scripts entered via G11 keys. I have never had a crash, bug, glitch, or error with 3.3.

3.3 Still works for me and I see 3.4 will break some plugins. I'm sure SE will manage to mess up 3.3 eventually, but right now I don't see the point in upgrading until the new plugins are all written. Maybe for a programmer the little tweaks are nice, but right now it seems like a windower equivalent of Vista.

applications =/= plugins.

It is nice to be able to play a full night without the annoying spellcast/3.3 bug unloading random plugins 4 times a night.

[pogle]

Noticed I'll always crash if I try to bring up Task Manager, but that might be since Windows jumps to that weird menu right after you ctrl+alt+del. There a way to disable that, or anyone else have similar issues? Using XP.

Just a quick tip, you should be able to bring up task manager without that screen by hitting Ctrl-Shift-Esc rather than Ctrl-Alt-Del. Won't work if FFXI has focus (or most any app that try to steal your entire screen, since they're grabbing almost all keyboard input too), but just Alt-Tab over to something else and it should work fine.

[OctavoGilgamesh]

Tried to upgrade, ran fine, but it totally killed my macro's. Other people with the same issues posting on the windower forums are getting the typical "switch to spellcast dummy" crap. Not sure what they were thinking when they decided to kill alias's and make you surround your <> with slashes.
Went back to 3.3, not worth it for me. I don't want anything to do with spellcast, I like my macro's the way they are.

[Zosi]

Tried to upgrade, ran fine, but it totally killed my macro's. Other people with the same issues posting on the windower forums are getting the typical "switch to spellcast dummy" crap. Not sure what they were thinking when they decided to kill alias's and make you surround your <> with slashes.
Went back to 3.3, not worth it for me. I don't want anything to do with spellcast, I like my macro's the way they are.

If you're having trouble with script execs, see my post on the previous page about Unicode. It's a known problem and there'll be a fix some time in the near future, I think. My aliases and execs work fine (after fixing Unicode), and I didn't have to change anything besides a few \ to \\s (for binding the \ key). You don't have to escape your <> with slashes, as far as I know, so I'm not sure where you got that idea from.

[Day]

Noticed I'll always crash if I try to bring up Task Manager, but that might be since Windows jumps to that weird menu right after you ctrl+alt+del. There a way to disable that, or anyone else have similar issues? Using XP.

Just a quick tip, you should be able to bring up task manager without that screen by hitting Ctrl-Shift-Esc rather than Ctrl-Alt-Del. Won't work if FFXI has focus (or most any app that try to steal your entire screen, since they're grabbing almost all keyboard input too), but just Alt-Tab over to something else and it should work fine.

This also works: Windows Key+R, Taskmgr, enter.

[dendryte]

What is the difference between the SSE2 and NO SSE2 versions of SpellCast? I'm guessing the latter uses SSE2 instructions, but why???

[OctavoGilgamesh]

If you're having trouble with script execs, see my post on the previous page about Unicode. It's a known problem and there'll be a fix some time in the near future, I think. My aliases and execs work fine (after fixing Unicode), and I didn't have to change anything besides a few \ to \\s (for binding the \ key). You don't have to escape your <> with slashes, as far as I know, so I'm not sure where you got that idea from.

I made sure my text file was ascii. I have no \'s. I got the idea to escape the <>'s from a windower thread on the issue. Otherwise my macro's that go input /ma "Spellnamehere" <t>; go 'error or whatever /ma "Spellname"'
Basically it loses the <t>. My macros are all binds to a key, I don't use the pol macro menu to execute a windower macro.

Edit to possibly clarify.
Here is an example of what I use, efficient or not.

alias stungear input /equip R.Ear "Dark Earring";input /equip Body "Glamor Jupon";input /equip Neck "Dark Torque";input /equip Hands "Crimson Fng. Gnt.";input /equip Feet "Errant Pigaches";input /equip Legs "Errant Slops";input /equip waist "Penitent's Rope";input /equip Head "Wlk. Chapeau +1";input /equip R.Ear "Loquac. Earring";input /echo Dispel Gear;

keyboard_bind ^0 stungear;input /equip Main "Thunder Staff";input /ma "Stun" <t>;input /p Stun ->>> Next;input /recast Stun;wait 2.5;idlegear;

First off, my stungear alias is about as long as you can go. I don't remember if I got the crash to desktop from that one. Now lets say the alias's are all working and this bind executed from my Redmage.txt file.
Press ctl alt 0 and you get /ma "Stun" a command error occured
No party chat, no recast, no wait then change to idlegear.

info thread here

your bind code contained:

CODE
input /equip main "Aquilo's Staff";
input /ma "Bind" <stnpc>;


do what he recommended and try escaping the < and > by doing this instead:

CODE
input /equip main "Aquilo's Staff";
input /ma "Bind" \<stnpc\>;

[Kimiko]

Don't feel too bad, my macros crash 3.4 outright. Waiting on a fix... also, the delay in taking screenshots is still present.

[The Blackrose]

Noticed I'll always crash if I try to bring up Task Manager, but that might be since Windows jumps to that weird menu right after you ctrl+alt+del. There a way to disable that, or anyone else have similar issues? Using XP.

Just a quick tip, you should be able to bring up task manager without that screen by hitting Ctrl-Shift-Esc rather than Ctrl-Alt-Del. Won't work if FFXI has focus (or most any app that try to steal your entire screen, since they're grabbing almost all keyboard input too), but just Alt-Tab over to something else and it should work fine.

This also works: Windows Key+R, Taskmgr, enter.

Right-click on taskbar > Task Manager

[retice]

alias stungear input /equip R.Ear "Dark Earring";input /equip Body "Glamor Jupon";input /equip Neck "Dark Torque";input /equip Hands "Crimson Fng. Gnt.";input /equip Feet "Errant Pigaches";input /equip Legs "Errant Slops";input /equip waist "Penitent's Rope";input /equip Head "Wlk. Chapeau +1";input /equip R.Ear "Loquac. Earring";input /echo Dispel Gear;

It's been said that aliases that are too long also crash the console, try splitting the 2 aliases in to 2 files. Might help you out.