great news about gas prices!

[Demosthenes11]

It's always the conservatives fault
even when dem's have majority

[Maxxthepenguin]

It's always the conservatives fault
even when dem's have majority

...did I say that? I said I have no idea. I actually do blame Pelosi and Reid for being unable to get their bills passed and issues heard. Yes, it's very hard but the nature of it being hard is vital. Congressmen are supposed to overcome it.

I don't think there ever really was a "plan." Just one of those things to get elected.

I don't trust campaign promises. No matter who makes them.

[Demosthenes11]

I can't fault her or Reid for having badly executed plans

WAT

[Beckwin]

swampy, change that fucking sig back.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

swampy, change that fucking sig back.

10-4, I was hoping to find a pick of Obama in relation to Carter though.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I can't fault her or Reid for having badly executed plans

WAT

I miswrote. I meant badly planned plans.

In any case that was before I learned it was a campaign promise which changes the context greatly.

[Beckwin]

I meant the new link.

don't even try to use that as a defense. it's a terrible premise that completely ignores that you can make money off of money not spent.



As far as gas: fuck it, let the prices keep going up. crank out the priuses (which pay for themselves faster than ever!) and the real entrepreneurs and capitalists can be smart and get a foothold on the next wave of energy; fuck big oil if they can't make the jump and instead want to rely on kickbacks to keep padding their pockets.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

I disagree.

[Beckwin]

does fairtax take any money from interest earned from having money in a savings account?

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

does fairtax take any money from interest earned from having money in a savings account?

That wasn't the part I disagreed with, but I'll try to answer your question. Services are taxed as well, and the bank is providing a service, so maybe.

[sunb1ind]

offtopic, but: what the fuck is up with the blinged out sigs yo? that obama sig reminded me of this...

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8...somevy4wh2.jpg

I need to make my own bling sig and get wit the cool kids.

[Senoska]

4.02 in Detroit today.
edit: this is premium by the way, unleaded is 3.80 which is still retarded.

[aurik]

hard to pass bills with a razor thin majority in the senate, especially when they keep getting vetoed.

Hey guys I remember this happening before...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingr ... _the_House

[archibaldcrane]

Why would anyone put anything besides 85 octane in their car anyway? It's just a waste of money.

Because higher performance engines require higher octane gasoline to prevent premature combustion in the cylinder before the piston reaches 12 o'clock, which causes knocking, lower performance, and lower gas efficiency.

Or were you not looking for an answer to that?

[Ksandra]

It's always the conservatives fault
even when dem's have majority

...did I say that? I said I have no idea. I actually do blame Pelosi and Reid for being unable to get their bills passed and issues heard. Yes, it's very hard but the nature of it being hard is vital. Congressmen are supposed to overcome it.

I don't think there ever really was a "plan." Just one of those things to get elected.

I don't trust campaign promises. No matter who makes them.

If Vin Diesel made them, I'd trust him. I mean it's Vin Diesel! He owns, and his last name is a type of gas.


But srly, this country I think is in huge trouble over the gas thing. Like people said, we are essentially built wrong. Our country is setup where you live far away from where you work. Sadly, too we let our train systems go to shit after the car became so streamline.

We're so far in debt that I doubt we'll get to any solution to the problem anytime soon. /moves to China.

[HAcoreRD]

$3.98-$4.02 in CT, well, where I am at anyways.

Kind of a bitch, I remember $.99 gas waaaaaay back when.

fortunately i'm 7 min drive (2 miles) from work, so on Sunny days, if I get up early enough I walk to and from work.

[Sesar]

Why would anyone put anything besides 85 octane in their car anyway? It's just a waste of money.

Because higher performance engines require higher octane gasoline to prevent premature combustion in the cylinder before the piston reaches 12 o'clock, which causes knocking, lower performance, and lower gas efficiency.

Or were you not looking for an answer to that?

It was a rhetorical question. I provided an answer to it in the paragraph following that sentence of why its a waste of money.

and

Because the lowest octane rating available at gas pumps is 87? I can take a picture if you'd like.

You must live on the coast, or at least at a lower elevation than me. Mountain states usually get 85 octane while everyone else gets 87.

[Xanthe]

People can always ride the bus. DING DING, WINRAR.

It takes me ~15 minutes to drive to work. The same commute by bus would take me ~1.5 hours with a single transfer. Rochester public transit sucks.

[mikazuki]

That's pretty much all octane is anyway; the rating of a fuel's tendency to ignite without a spark.

You are confusing the compund iso-octane with octane rating, iso-octane being the primary compound in gasoline.

i wasn't paying much attention so yah my post is wrong but if you'd put that octane-rating is the indicator of auto-ignition i'd have agreed

admittedly octane-rating can be used for fuels that don't actually contain octane in any of it's forms, but the auto-ignition isn't the only measure of the fuel which is changed by a higher or lower (iso-)octane content.

it doesn't really matter if people use regular or premium to me ^_^/

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

So how long before gas hits $200 a barrel?