Zhayolm Q

[Demosthenes11]

blu > chorus
don't need a monk storing tp if you got a blu silly slott

[Neosutra]

blu > chorus
don't need a monk storing tp if you got a blu silly slott

Ya we used to have a blue do this and it worked great. But he no longer goes with us Q.Q

[Demosthenes11]

we take 2 on runs where we have enough for 8-9...it really goes so much quicker

[Valyana]

Head Butt is fast enough to stop Chorus when it's readied? Or do you just have them try to stun lock the Madame?

[Slott]

blu > chorus
don't need a monk storing tp if you got a blu silly slott

We have no blus, you know that. Stop being a jerk off Plus, shoulder tackle is faster than headbutt

That and 8-9 for zhayolm is fail, but they do have to deal with you, so i guess it's needed :D

[Neosutra]

Ill try shoulder tackle next time, but Im not sure if the loss in DoT from no WSs is will balance out the loss of 1 min melee time during charm phases.. we shall see!

[Slott]

1 minute loss of dot from 2-3 melee vs no ws dmg from 1 melee.

[Neosutra]

1 minute loss of dot from 2-3 melee vs no ws dmg from 1 melee.

I usually dont have my thf melee till last % to reduce TP spam, so with 2 melees on it, its significantly cutting half my melee's damage by having the mnk not WS. Either way, Ill try it and see the time difference.

[Suiram]

Head Butt is fast enough to stop Chorus when it's readied? Or do you just have them try to stun lock the Madame?

I'd say 90% of the time yes, but I swear sometimes they ready chorus faster. When they do, however, even other ppl have a hard time stunning with shoulder tackle / flat blade, so it's not just me lagging. I tend to just stun the red-lines for 3F on, since recast is fine if you have all your haste gear (and real haste and march), and will usually stop everything except water bomb, then when water bomb gets off I'll open up WS menu and watch chat log for if the next WS is chorus, and if it is I'll flat blade it, if not I'll switch back to head-butting red lines for subsequent TP moves. (Chorus is also slow enough to just watch the chat log and stun it only, but why not stun every 5 seconds if you can.)

[Suiram]

Guarenteed 1 of each other type of cell? Not sure what you mean by this.

And your mnk shoulder tackles chorus O.o. so he store tps for it? Or just gets lucky on timing?

There are 6 mamools, 2 BLUs, 2 BLMs, 2 WHMs. The BLUs drop nothing, but for the BLMs and WHMs, I forget how it is distributed but killing those 4 always yields one each of HP, STR, DEX, VIT, AGI, INT, MND, and CHR.

Just a clarification on this. Earlier tonight repeated 4N for cells, only really cared for HP. Killed Savant first time through, and dropped HP + STR first kill so we ported. Second time killed a Savant, which dropped nothing, so cleared them all and Sophist dropped HP and STR. Repeated it once more, and this time Savants dropped again. So it's not always the same droppers, although it would seem that if one drops VIT and AGI, the other mamool of the same job will drop HP and STR, with the other 4 cells paired off similarly on a different couple of mamools.

Also, fast choruses again tonight. Entered watersday, which has been common among the other fast choruses I remember, although summer heat I was lagging a ton, too, so it could have just been that.

[Moridox]

Does the 4th Floor Madame drop multiple pieces similar to Don Poroggo dropping both Ares/Morrigan 15s or does it drop 100% of the group of 15s from this zone? Been sitting w/ 25/35 for Marduk Legs going on 3months w/o the 1st floor madame dropping a single Marduk 15.

[Suiram]

Drops all 3 of the Lv15s for skadi mask, marduk legs, and usu feet, 100% of the time.

[Moridox]

Thanks, Been wanting to complete this so I'll just make an attempt to target 4th on a run since we have 2 others who both need the other 15s to complete. 3 full completion in 1 run is always good morale boost.

[Hanyoko]

1st Floor : low % of dropping any lvl15 in zone (except maybe card pop 15 [anyone know])
2nd Floor : 100% chance of dropping twice the cells traded
3rd Floor North : 100% chance of dropping all listed 15s
4th Floor North : 100% chance of dropping all listed 15s
5th Floor North : low % chance of dropping 35s (I think each piece has a slot for the 'drop or no drop' situation as i remember seeing screens of 'full drop')
3rd, 4th, 5th South : 100% drop on a chest
6th Floor : low % chance of dropping 35s (see 5th floor)

*clarify + add south info from post below*

[Kaylia]

3rd 4th and 5th north... south drop chest.