[Phoenix] Mynas (bc)

[Torsten]

I only write here, because my name is in one post.

Yes, she confessed all, and it was resolved. As for sneaking back in, I was under the impression that Torsten and other leaders knew who she was, and had no objections. Old drama is old.

Wrong. I got a proof that Mynas is Sinthel (screenshot of a friendlist of a good friend), that day we disbanded her of our LS. So official I didn't know that Mynas was Sinthel before this proof.

I had a long discussion with her in /tell that day and she still said it wouldn't be the truth @ Mynas <-> Sinthel. But after a while she confirmed it...

No more comments.

I just don't understand why Dooom is defending her... Didn't he leave the LS because of her? (That's what I understand in his Finale application...)

[Tillaert]

Some of your members knew this, including at least one sackholder. They kept it from you until they saw it fit to use it against her.

[Dega]

This thread should be put in more perspective by tagging the people who cybered with her or each other at some point.

[Elyon]

Wow quite a few replies, let me respond to them and then summarise it for you ^^

1. Johnboy, you are technically violating the forum rules that you're using "hearsay", you can not provide any proof on this matter, you only say what you have heard. All you have heard were rumors because some people have been childish enough to sit on their grudge for a year and a half and keep poisoning their target's reputation.
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2. Rya, secondly, that Kirin. Mynas was not even in charge of that one, she had given charge to another leader before that when it came to Kirin in the beginning (something about being busy Limbus and other things). After that disastrous Kirin, measures were taken accordingly since it was a learning process and they frankly had the worst luck with member count and jobs to begin with. The Kirins after have been going well, even the Kirins before weren't too bad. Seeing as she didn't apply for a position as a leader, as Tillaert pointed, I also see it as a non issue.
   I suppose it's not as fun to say something positive about someone you don't even know when you see that there are two- three more rather obscure people say something negative. (Off Topic: Btw, does Legacy enjoy camping on top of people in Sea and holding monsters just to monopolise a NM spawn? :3 )
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3. Stockyboy, you shouldn't say much yourself, you're the guy who got hacked because he used ffxiapp tools/ bots and his info got leaked like that. Then you start a ls, when you get pissed you THREW away the pop items you couldn't sell and spread the gil amongst some of your friends, then carried on calling it your Masterplan while all you did was make yourself look like a fool. Who was the one who had to clean up the mess you made in the linkshell you originally started? Mynas. She worked hard to keep the shell going even when things were being made difficult, you only added to that difficulty.
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4. Mrmadsen, I found it quite hilarious to see you post here. You're the lvl 75 SAM only with a lvl 36 sub, whose gear was bought by other players (Haubergeon was bought by a ls fund started by Tillaert for your birthday), does not even lead his own dynamis ls (Kierk and Torsten take care of it) and has been so stupid to give the account info to Mynas herself, not to Tillaert, just so she could do your dirty work as getting cutscenes for your CoP missions, play in a dynamis windy for you because you needed the win/ wanted your sam relic and so on. She did it for you, she got you whatever you wanted, she never stole anything.
   
   Alass, the tables were turned when personal issues with someone else got involved. That's where she went wrong and she knows it. She did drop your relic, rightfully so you were pissed off. She gave the info you needed to Tillaert, who gave you the info in return. Then that nice GM processed the info and got you the stuff back. Looks like you forgot a few steps (although crucial) there, only shows the more that you have not gotten over this issue yet after one year and half, which says more about you then about her at this very moment.
   The question is: Did she give you the info to get your stuff back because she was stupid? No, she fessed up and gave you the info to retrieve your stuff because she took responsiblity for her actions, was sorry and wanted to make it up somehow, knowing that she'd risk to lose a friend, which she did, and that someday, all this was smeared out on boards like these. This drama is old. It's about a year and a half ago, you got your stuff back in a week or so and you even had to use your online webcomic as your emo diary, never the less, get finally over it, you don't even play this game on a regular basis.
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5. To Torsten Later, she took a break, returned as Mynas because she wanted to play together with Tillaert. That's all there was to it, she was not out to get you or harm you, seems like you're the one being paranoid here. Weewee, Mrrill and other people knew of her from the near start when she re-joined the linkshell, the only reason Torsten and Madsen heard it from Weewee was because Mynas had a fight with a girl Weewee liked and then Weewee sent a SS. Also Torsten, you asked her before the day she had to leave if she was Sinthel. She was told not to say anything and seeing as your attitude was aggressive towards her "I know you are sinthel, I just need proof", she was not inclined in doing so either (It was the same person over who the drama with madsen got started in the first place btw).
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6. And lol at the cybering. This is just another rumor spread by some frustrated guy :3 Even if it was true, who would give a damn? It would be a personal affair, not something that would directly influence an outsider now would it [/*:m:36nmz01f]

To summarise:
Stockyboy and Madsen are just tearing up old wounds for their personal satisfaction because obviously they can't beat a dead horse hard enough. Rya and Johnboy are posting things that would not even matter for her application, using hearsay which will always come from biased people (like madsen and his friends) and also spoken from an elitist perspective dear Legacy upholds towards new shells 'lol nubs".

I think what most people would agree on and did agree on is that she is a good player, she works hard and tries her best. She'll help out when you need it, reads up on the things she doesn't know much about BUT she does have a temper and when put under alot of pressure for a period of time, it will flare up and it will calm down soon as well.

She took responsibility for her actions, this drama is more dead than a lvl 15 who linked 20 thread leeches. She leveled her own characters, she never stole or screwed an entire linkshell over (unlike lolfallso/stockyboy) and most of all, she has been working very hard to keep things going for others, does that not deserve any merit? It would be a good thing if she were to hop servers, Phoenix is quite keen on drama and elitists and no matter what she'd do or not do, she would never get a new chance while I personally think she has been punished more than enough for her negative actions and does deserve a fresh start.

If you would accept her, best is to keep her in as a regular member, a position she would enjoy much more seeing as she never wanted to lead in the first place, she only wanted to make strategies (this is hearsay I'll admit it). As someone else pointed out: treat her right and she'll treat you right.

[Dega]

Just for perspective again.

Are you Mynas on a different account?

[Torsten]

Elyon, idk who you are... and where you got all the detailed info.... if they are true.

But I'm leader of the LS and Mynas denied that she is/was Sinthel... then confirmed it... So she lied. That is reason enough for me to kick someone. I don't need members who kick other members because of female drama (I saw that in fortEuropa, check MrM post above) or who lie to me... and there were many others reasons to kick her out of the shell... Maybe you ask other LS members for more infos.

We had a long discussion in leader area about kicking her BEFORE I got the friend list screenshot as proof.

Anyway, I don't know you, so you shouldn't try to explain things about me and my shell, thank you. If you are a friend of Mynas, then you heard maybe her side of things... But as you are/were no member of my shell(s), mind stop talking about those?

[Elyon]

Closely involved, I just got my facts straight by listening to both sides and yes I did get my info from Mynas and Tillaert, it's how I got the details, so forgive me for being biased.

One more thing: wouldn't it be a win-win situation if she were to leave and start anew for both parties? She would not be around anymore and you would be rid of her while she would be able to start anew and not have to cope with this kind of bullshit.

[johnboy]

Wow quite a few replies, let me respond to them and then summarise it for you ^^

[list=1][*]Johnboy, you are technically violating the forum rules that you're using "hearsay", you can not provide any proof on this matter, you only say what you have heard. All you have heard were rumors because some people have been childish enough to sit on their grudge for a year and a half and keep poisoning their target's reputation.

Um huh?. just because i'm friends with Dooom im not gonna post the detailed essay he wrote in my linkshells forum which clearly states everything thats happened, even if this would be considered "Proof", not good enough coming from someone who is right at the heart of this cyber fest? that plus countless friends who have been in the same ls and told me everyhting. now GTFO tyring to tell me what i know and dont.

[Tillaert]

(In reply to Torsten's Post)

At any rate, it's old drama and nothing was stolen. Mynas' only vice (and mine) was not informing you of the name change. Apart from that, I think we were pretty decent linkshell members. Helping you with your osode, black belt and such.

It's old drama, and apparently Madsen isn't over it, behaving like a little kid who got his lollipop taken away. That's the reason I don't talk to him anymore, because he thought it was needed to make a comic about it. And indeed, I hope that he still enjoys that Haubergeon the little-gamers linkshell and I got together. Was quite a feat to get the 7M together those days, but we did it. How did he repay us? By not coming into that linkshell for two years. And when some drama occurs, he suddenly decides it's his linkshell, despite me holding the linkshell longer than he had. Except for the name, there was no real connection with 'little-gamers' anymore. Mynas was right to kick him when he came in the linkshell screaming and cussing like he did. I she hadn't done it, I or the other sackholders would have done it.

This thread is about whether Mynas is a good candidate for a linkshell we are all not a member off. In that respect, I agree with Baha. Yes she has a temper, but on the other side, she is one of the more alive players in this game, so some emotional affection is expected. She is also very technically skilled with a good understanding of game mechanics, mr. lvl 75 monster signa bard.

[Elyon]

Truth be told, I don't know anything about this and once again, if it were true, why would it matter for an application elsewhere, on a different server? Just get over it, if she's that bad, good riddance then and be happy that she'd be gone!

As Tillaert said, the only thing that matters is wether she would be a good candidate for a linkshell we are not involved with, it's why there are background checks amirite?

[Rya]

(Off Topic: Btw, does Legacy enjoy camping on top of people in Sea and holding monsters just to monopolise a NM spawn? :3 )

Feel free to elaborate on this, Legacy does Sea for 2 weeks out of every 6 and the whole zone is generaly empty when we are there ...

[Elyon]

It's off topic, I shouldn't have mentioned that in the first place, it was also only hearsay. I'll delete that remark in the entry if it would make you feel better.

[Rya]

It's off topic, I shouldn't have mentioned that in the first place, it was also only hearsay. I'll delete that remark in the entry if it would make you feel better.

Its not about making me feel better, im not crying whilst i type this. Nothing that i have posted is hearsay, what i stated was a fact (100+ deaths at kirin) How do i know this fact? - Legacy was planning on doing Kirin that night and multiple members were there.

[Tillaert]

It's off topic, I shouldn't have mentioned that in the first place, it was also only hearsay. I'll delete that remark in the entry if it would make you feel better.

Its not about making me feel better, im not crying whilst i type this. Nothing that i have posted is hearsay, what i stated was a fact (100+ deaths at kirin) How do i know this fact? - Legacy was planning on doing Kirin that night and multiple members were there.

And I'm sure that is was just as entertaining to you as it was for us, but again, it's not relevant for the issue at hand. No need to become elitist and keep mentioning the fact that seen the Kirin of a hundred deaths.

Besides: she is not applying for Legacy, so what do you care?

[Torsten]

Maybe some ppl should read before they write. Check my first short post. I didn't said anything bad, just explained how we disbaned Mynas from our LS, but ppl who never came in contact with this LS replied on my post.

So you made the problem, not I.

I didn't write any bad thing about Mynas, don't need to dig out all the bad stories... I'm finished with it... Read before reply.

[Rya]

It's off topic, I shouldn't have mentioned that in the first place, it was also only hearsay. I'll delete that remark in the entry if it would make you feel better.

Its not about making me feel better, im not crying whilst i type this. Nothing that i have posted is hearsay, what i stated was a fact (100+ deaths at kirin) How do i know this fact? - Legacy was planning on doing Kirin that night and multiple members were there.

And I'm sure that is was just as entertaining to you as it was for us, but again, it's not relevant for the issue at hand. No need to become elitist and keep mentioning the fact that seen the Kirin of a hundred deaths.

Besides: she is not applying for Legacy, so what do you care?

Is it really that hard to read what i put above and understand that it was a response to Elyon? what i did was highlight that my post was fact and Elyons was hearsay.

Anyway, enough off-topic / irrelevant crap.

[Elyon]

Anyway, enough off-topic / irrelevant crap.

Agreed there, enough with the poo flinging. Let's grab a beer and lol at drama, kk?

[Izzy]

HOLY FUCKING LIVE JOURNAL SHIT

I don't have anything specific to add really... but anybody that would log into someone's account and drop ra/ex items... is someone I'd steer clear of.

Best fucking quote of this thread. It should have stopped there.

[Elyon]

http://www.elitetrading.de/forum/att...d_facepalm.jpg

Best quote imo: Old drama is old. If you don't like a person, be happy he's leaving, I'm sure the person in question feels exactly the same way!

[isladar]

ASHIRA'D maybe