United Nations workers raping 6 year olds

[Shuemue]

Not a lot of faith in the U.N.

Vicious circle really, if America, Britain etc are comfortable ignoring UN directives, then how can we expect other countries to respect it?

[Maxxthepenguin]

Rape is almost never sexually driven, it's about power. Needless to say, this is fucked up.

I've heard this from many people, including my psych 101 teacher, and when I ask for source of an actual study/statistic, no one can provide one, including my psych 101 teacher.

Do you have a study/statistic or personal experience in the matter?

Because normal socialized human beings don't rape people because they're horny, it's because they know them and/or want to establish dominance over them consciously or subconsciously.

We consider sex with children rape. Are pedophiles not driven by lust and sexual gratification?

The UN's purpose is a bit schizophrenic. It doesn't want to impede on any country's sovereignty but exists to create global power. It's a good thing to have, but I think there are better things that could exist in its place.

[layoneil]

Because normal socialized human beings don't rape people because they're horny, it's because they know them and/or want to establish dominance over them consciously or subconsciously.

statutory rape doesn't always fall in that category. when the girl is 14-17 they can look like they're 18+. the mentality is not that much different from a 40+ year-old who pays for an 18-24 year-old prostitute.

Is there something about people being poor and from a 3rd world country that makes others think that they're worth less and therefore abusable?

doesn't this happen all the time, some people who have money look down on people who don't?

[Maguspk]

Rape is almost never sexually driven, it's about power. Needless to say, this is fucked up.

I've heard this from many people, including my psych 101 teacher, and when I ask for source of an actual study/statistic, no one can provide one, including my psych 101 teacher.

Do you have a study/statistic or personal experience in the matter?

Because normal socialized human beings don't rape people because they're horny, it's because they know them and/or want to establish dominance over them consciously or subconsciously.

So you can't reference any studies to back up your statements?

It makes sense outside of a few cases like some have noted. I don't need to see some scientific study and published paper, which honestly would be difficult to prove and write, to tell me what to believe just like you apparently won't accept it without it.

[Alleya]

It's ignorant to say rapists are one way or another. The power of the situation should never be underestimated. Everyone is capable of anything they can conceive of whether they are ready to admit it or not (yes that includes YOU reading this right now), and they might do it at any time for any reason, clear or unclear.

There is a test called the Hostile Power Relation that can be administered, and people who score higher on it do tend to downplay the gravity of rape and place more blame on the victim (The Moderating Role of Ambivalent Sexism: The Influence of Power Status on Perception of Rape Victim and Rapist., Journal of Social Psychology; Feb2007, Vol. 147 Issue 1, p41-56, 16p). Other studies show that the power/dominance thing mentioned is a factor, but it's also rated right up there with impulse, and sexual need/satisfaction. (Sexual offenders' explanations for their offending. Journal of Sexual Aggression; Mar2007, Vol. 13 Issue 1, p3-9, 7p)

But most of all, shit's situational. Mood state, alcohol consumption, personal predispositions, attitudes, stress levels, and most importantly the environment...all of these things play into the equation in big ways, as they do in all aspects of life for good or ill. The lessons of Zimbardo should not be lightly forgotten.

[Meat]

Rape is almost never sexually driven, it's about power. Needless to say, this is fucked up.

I've heard this from many people, including my psych 101 teacher, and when I ask for source of an actual study/statistic, no one can provide one, including my psych 101 teacher.

Do you have a study/statistic or personal experience in the matter?

Because normal socialized human beings don't rape people because they're horny, it's because they know them and/or want to establish dominance over them consciously or subconsciously.

So you can't reference any studies to back up your statements?

Think of someone you'd rape, i know i know humor me,
























is it someone you know?

[Shuemue]

The power of the situation should never be underestimated. Everyone is capable of anything they can conceive of whether they are ready to admit it or not, and they might do it at any time for any reason, clear or unclear.

Statements like this are why you're such an attractive woman.

But seriously, I think that is one of the best descriptions of humanity I've read in a long time. It applies to the whole spectrum of 'good' and 'evil' acts.

[Tyche]

Not a lot of faith in the U.N.

Vicious circle really, if America, Britain etc are comfortable ignoring UN directives, then how can we expect other countries to respect it?

The involvement of other nations wasn't a factor in this particular instance. Kofi Annan, among other U.N. heads, decided they didn't want a rehash of somalia, so they just decided to let a million people be slaughtered in a hundred days.

[pohibaba]

Can we finally use this as an excuse to get us out of the catastrophe that is global government?

[Shuemue]

Not a lot of faith in the U.N.

Vicious circle really, if America, Britain etc are comfortable ignoring UN directives, then how can we expect other countries to respect it?

The involvement of other nations wasn't a factor in this particular instance. Kofi Annan, among other U.N. heads, decided they didn't want a rehash of somalia, so they just decided to let a million people be slaughtered in a hundred days.

I just meant in general that the economically powerful countries don't give a damn about UN resolutions.

[Kuya]

Forgive my lack of information, but isn't the UN just a reflection of the behavior of more developed countries? I do believe neither England or the US intervened in Rwanda, and wasn't the UN created by the US? The view outside of the US is that the UN is nothing but the US's bitch who keels over whenever the US rolls its newspaper.

[Tyche]

Forgive my lack of information, but isn't the UN just a reflection of the behavior of more developed countries? I do believe neither England or the US intervened in Rwanda, and wasn't the UN created by the US? The view outside of the US is that the UN is nothing but the US's bitch who keels over whenever the US rolls its newspaper.

Kinda, but it's difficult to explain. The U.N. initially sent Belgian soldiers to Rwanda. This is also odd because Rwanda was a belgian territory and the U.N. wasn't supposed to send soldiers from a nation that once occupied a country. None the less, Clinton made a few press conferences saying, essentially, "We have no interests in Rwanda, we're not in the business of sending over american marines only to send them back in coffins". The U.N. sent 300 soldiers there, and protected a few shelters for the Tutsi. After the RPF gained a firm handle on things, the U.N. stepped up support, and after all the killing, the U.S. decided to sent some aid. Kofi Annan kept stating that "We don't want another Somalia", however, the U.N. had(has?) a no-tolerance policy for genocide. They justified their Rwandan stance by saying "Acts of genocide" were being committed, but never said it was a ful-blown genocide. I guess a million people in a hundred days doesn't constitute genocide

[Kuya]

Interventions are weird. Countries always seem to be interventionists when it's not really needed, yet non interventionists when there's a genocide going on.

[Shuemue]

Interventions are weird. Countries always seem to be interventionists when there's oil to be had, yet non interventionists when there's a genocide going on.

fixed etc

[BIGSTIC]

Forgive my lack of information, but isn't the UN just a reflection of the behavior of more developed countries? I do believe neither England or the US intervened in Rwanda, and wasn't the UN created by the US? The view outside of the US is that the UN is nothing but the US's bitch who keels over whenever the US rolls its newspaper.

Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations

The UN was started by the axis nations after WW2. So whoever was on the winning side of WW2 got the most say. The Republic of China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States are the 5 permanent members and as such have a little more say. And as far as the UN being America's bitch well we do pay 22% of their budget and the next closest is Japan with 16% however alot of American's find the UN to be a total joke and a waste of money.

[aurik]

"Oxfam takes a zero-tolerance approach to sexual misconduct by its aid workers. All our staff across the world are held accountable by a robust code of conduct," said Jane Cocking, Oxfam charity's humanitarian director.

I giggled a bit, am I going to hell?

[Artemas]

Incredibly contemptuous.
I wonder how they will be trialed.

[Kuya]

The contention has some validity when it's aimed at the UN's apparent inability to stop genocides, but i do remember Americans complaining about the UN being useless because they wouldn't support the US's campaign against Iraq. All in all, the UN has very little intimidation power and it has conflicted interests, i'll let you guess as to why.

[Shuemue]

And as far as the UN being America's bitch well we do pay 22% of their budget and the next closest is Japan with 16% however alot of American's find the UN to be a total joke and a waste of money.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 792166.stm

You're not paying the most per capita though, for example there are roughly six times as many US citizens as there are UK, but you pay less than four times as much as the UK contribution. And the most per person? Japan is paying a fortune.

[BIGSTIC]

And as far as the UN being America's bitch well we do pay 22% of their budget and the next closest is Japan with 16% however alot of American's find the UN to be a total joke and a waste of money.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 792166.stm

You're not paying the most per capita though, for example there are roughly six times as many US citizens as there are UK, but you pay less than four times as much as the UK contribution. And the most per person? Japan is paying a fortune.

You got me on the per capita but if we are looking at per capita then WTF is up with Russia and China skimping the bill. Pay up or GTFO.

Also if you actually look at the way the budget is decided the US should be paying alot more than 22% but the UN put the max any one nation can pay at 22%.