Updates? In my ruke LJ?

[RKenshin]

If there is a way to force a 'miss' on high jump I can test this for you really easily.

Blind Pots are 100% proc like Para Potion maybe?

Also, awesome LJ post =P

Thanks! And yeah I was going to recommend that based on my own experiences with it and what Aurik said, but I guess that's not enough. D: I remember popping a blind pot while farming EP mobs before, and even when I used sushi my hit-rate was something ridiculous like 20% if not less. They're extremely potent.

But yeah, I guess they're not potent enough for this. What kind of test would be best? My job combinations and merits kind of suck for testing this stuff but maybe something could work lol. I'm a RNG+NIN+WAR+SAM+DRK+MNK+DRG with access to a WHM+RDM+BRD+BLM+COR+RNG, a BRD+BLM+THF, a WHM+MNK+BRD+NIN, and a RDM+BLM.

Have you truly found Alky's to be more beneficial than AF+1 hands on SAM, even given the new findings?

What new findings are you referring to?

And yes, my WS accuracy is basically capped everywhere I go, and there is still strong evidence that no WS without a TP critical-rate mod can crit. So it's basically 5 STR, 3.75 Att vs 12 DEX, 9 Acc... But the DEX and Acc aren't being used.

[Lyramion]

>I blame Ruke for "RabbitPie" being THE most viewed item on FFXI AH today!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xanthe]

I blame Ruke for the abysmal drop rate on the mushrooms used to make it.

[Charismatic]

>I blame Ruke for "RabbitPie" being THE most viewed item on FFXI AH today!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wanna be, I wanna be, I wanna be like Ruke

[Kaeko]

If there is a way to force a 'miss' on high jump I can test this for you really easily.

Blind Pots are 100% proc like Para Potion maybe?

Also, awesome LJ post =P

Thanks! And yeah I was going to recommend that based on my own experiences with it and what Aurik said, but I guess that's not enough. D: I remember popping a blind pot while farming EP mobs before, and even when I used sushi my hit-rate was something ridiculous like 20% if not less. They're extremely potent.

But yeah, I guess they're not potent enough for this. What kind of test would be best? My job combinations and merits kind of suck for testing this stuff but maybe something could work lol. I'm a RNG+NIN+WAR+SAM+DRK+MNK+DRG with access to a WHM+RDM+BRD+BLM+COR+RNG, a BRD+BLM+THF, a WHM+MNK+BRD+NIN, and a RDM+BLM.

Have you truly found Alky's to be more beneficial than AF+1 hands on SAM, even given the new findings?

What new findings are you referring to?

And yes, my WS accuracy is basically capped everywhere I go, and there is still strong evidence that no WS without a TP critical-rate mod can crit. So it's basically 5 STR, 3.75 Att vs 12 DEX, 9 Acc... But the DEX and Acc aren't being used.

Best to just get a SCH or SMN and stoneskinga + Phalanx2 or Phalanxga. Then test on like a lvl40 mob like Kraken where you know you can force a miss (use like DRG/RDM and no weapon - no natural h2h skill so you should miss).

Get 3 ppl, DRG/RDM, SCH or SMN, and a 3rd job - BRD/RDM or RDM/BRD is my favorite. Balance your enmity (hopefully no merits)

Buff phalanx, stoneskin, protect 4.

Have SCH or SMN pull mob then sit tight.

DRG/RDM and BRD/RDM use dispel x1 each (320CE each)

Have DRG/RDM use dispel again (BRD: 320 CE, DRG 640 CE)

Have DRG use high jump and pray you miss (use a blind pot before you do all the pulling if you want)

The DRG will now have less than 640 CE, but probably more than 320 CE.

Use the BRD/RDM to try to rebalance hate. Using things like Prelude ups CE in 20 increments. I'd just keep using prelude (+20CE) until the BRD regains hate. Then have the DRG cure himself for 0 HP until he gets it back (+1 increments).

You can calculate the CE loss then and convert to a %.

[Gathzel]

Since everything you write about suddenly goes in vogue I really think you should make a larger DRG update about big and small things. The loldrg stamp would be gone forever.

[SamanosukeShiva]

gotta ask

did triple dmg proc on jump/hijump?

[Khelek]

Man, Ruke >: I was hoping it was an update on gaxe WAR when I heard there was an LJ update. Not that this isn't good, but I wanted to see the gaxe stuff gathered in one place lol. get to it!

[Max™]

Apply everything he posted about /Drg, add 11 Accuracy, and make the comparison between 6~7 Hit+Hasso+Seigan vs 10% DA + Berserk, toss in Super Jump, native Wyvern+Breaths, and Penta?

Oh! Stumbling Sandals + Spelunker's hat get?

Would be neat to see stuff like the potential damage he worked up in the Bhaflau thread, and the various other gaxe threads compiled together.

Like to see a comparo of War/Drg vs War/Sam, though I'm /Sam will win out overall, /Drg is a great combo that just doesn't get used because your survival mechanism is killing faster than you die.

[Xanthe]

Apply everything he posted about /Drg, add 12 Accuracy, and make the comparison between 6~7 Hit+Hasso+Seigan vs 10% DA + Berserk, toss in Super Jump, native Wyvern+Breaths, and Penta?

[Max™]

Doh, yeah that's right it's 22 with both traits, I keep thinking 11/11 not 10/12.

Also: yes, 3x Dmg procs on Jumps, so far everything but Blood Weapon and Virtue weapons does.

[RKenshin]

>I blame Ruke for "RabbitPie" being THE most viewed item on FFXI AH today!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sealed my own doom on this, the price is going to double.

Best to just get a SCH or SMN and stoneskinga + Phalanx2 or Phalanxga. Then test on like a lvl40 mob like Kraken where you know you can force a miss (use like DRG/RDM and no weapon - no natural h2h skill so you should miss).

Get 3 ppl, DRG/RDM, SCH or SMN, and a 3rd job - BRD/RDM or RDM/BRD is my favorite. Balance your enmity (hopefully no merits)

Buff phalanx, stoneskin, protect 4.

Have SCH or SMN pull mob then sit tight.

DRG/RDM and BRD/RDM use dispel x1 each (320CE each)

Have DRG/RDM use dispel again (BRD: 320 CE, DRG 640 CE)

Have DRG use high jump and pray you miss (use a blind pot before you do all the pulling if you want)

The DRG will now have less than 640 CE, but probably more than 320 CE.

Use the BRD/RDM to try to rebalance hate. Using things like Prelude ups CE in 20 increments. I'd just keep using prelude (+20CE) until the BRD regains hate. Then have the DRG cure himself for 0 HP until he gets it back (+1 increments).

You can calculate the CE loss then and convert to a %.

Yeah, I thought it'd probably be like this. I didn't think of using Prelude though, which is 100x better than curing 20 times for each Prelude lol. Only problem though is I have +4 enmity merits, none of the other characters I mentioned do but none of them have high jump either.

The mob I'm thinking of for this might actually be Mandras in the tree. They hit for low enough damage in defense gear for phalanx II to cover it, and stoneskin to make up for any criticals. Just would have to be quick. If not, maybe just the yuhtunga ones with blind pots and 0 skill will be fine.

gotta ask

did triple dmg proc on jump/hijump?

Yeah, I've had a Jump for 900+ in another PT. So it must've been a critical triple proc + a double attack.

Man, Ruke >: I was hoping it was an update on gaxe WAR when I heard there was an LJ update. Not that this isn't good, but I wanted to see the gaxe stuff gathered in one place lol. get to it!

Maybe next time lol. But that's a harder thing to get into, there's still a lot of players that feel strongly for it or against it.

Apply everything he posted about /Drg, add 11 Accuracy, and make the comparison between 6~7 Hit+Hasso+Seigan vs 10% DA + Berserk, toss in Super Jump, native Wyvern+Breaths, and Penta?

Oh! Stumbling Sandals + Spelunker's hat get?

Wait what? lol... I'm not sure what you mean. D:

And I'm pretty sure WAR/SAM will still be superior to WAR/DRG offensively too, losing a 6-hit makes a considerable difference in itself. Also will be losing 5% haste.

[Max™]

Was about the Drg article they mentioned, Drg/Sam vs Drg/War is kind of similar to Sam/Drg vs War/Drg in some ways, biggest changes would be the added acc, gear options, whatnot.

Yeah, post Hasso/Seigan buff /Sam took over the title of king DD sub for Gaxe, War/Drg was horribly awesome though. It's fallen behind a bit, but still has some awesome potential.

I'd KILL to see a Bravura War/Drg in action... maybe if I win the lotto. *dreams*

We should collaborate on a Gaxe thing, would be nice to have your/Lhexh's data/input, and noone would think twice if I, of all people, posted about how awesome Gaxe is.

Would need me a new title, "Great Axe Guru"... like Yoda with a Great Axe, I am.

[Seyrr]

>I blame Ruke for "RabbitPie" being THE most viewed item on FFXI AH today!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sealed my own doom on this, the price is going to double.

As a chef who's had occasion to farm all of the necessary materials in the past few weeks, I thank you deeply.

[shaqswede]

I blame Ruke for 'global warming'

[RKenshin]

@Max.

lol, I'm probably not going to have the time to put together another for a while. Full-time internship starting next week!

And yeah, DRG/SAM vs DRG/WAR is kind of hard. I've been switching between them both but the difference in WS and melee damage has been rather considerable, much bigger than what I'm getting on SAM/WAR vs SAM/DRG. But, then again I've only merited on birds with DRG, so usually it's just one BRD and crap food. I also don't have Polearm merits.

[Stromgarde]

I didn't expect you to take the Haramaki out of the one place you were using it... what's the best place to get use out of it if you aren't 5/5 and benefiting from the haste bonus? After all, Haubergeon +1 is vastly cheaper than the stack of wootz ingots.

[Max™]

Yeah, Penta seems to get a much bigger boost from Zerk than the Y/G/K do, especially with Sam gear like you have, is 6 hit viable for Drg/Sam without relying on jumps, using Korazin or whatnot to TP in?

I'd really like to talk shop with Lhexh sometime, he ever post here?

[RKenshin]

Lhexh posts occasionally, but is mostly just a ceiling cat here. Always watching but rarely making his presence known!

And yeah, Penta gets huge boosts from additions of attack. 6-hit doesn't work on DRG though without either landing all hits of Penta, or missing only one hit and having Askar body, Store TP food, or a Jump/HJ with Conte on.

I didn't expect you to take the Haramaki out of the one place you were using it... what's the best place to get use out of it if you aren't 5/5 and benefiting from the haste bonus? After all, Haubergeon +1 is vastly cheaper than the stack of wootz ingots.

I used it full-time for TP for a long while, it's not as good of an option as Haub+1 for offensive purposes... But Usukane's +35 Eva is noticeable on lower level mobs, so it's a nice choice for being slightly better defensively. SAM's eva rating is pretty high as well. I'm still anxious to see what my evasion will be like with full Usu and an Ethereal.

[GSDragoon]

Yeah, Penta seems to get a much bigger boost from Zerk than the Y/G/K do, especially with Sam gear like you have, is 6 hit viable for Drg/Sam without relying on jumps, using Korazin or whatnot to TP in?

I'd really like to talk shop with Lhexh sometime, he ever post here?

Unless I messed up the math somewhere, you'd need store tp +10 (besides the 15 from /sam) to get a 6 hit build on drg/sam with your stardard blue/gold lance(I stuck at spelling and too lazy to look up the name).

EDIT: almost forgot the pic
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