Souleater in Einherjar

[yrpaine]

I have done a search and I haven't found any posts with this issue.

I have spoke with some of the other DRK in my ls also, and after a recent parse I was quite curious.

Has there always been an issue with souleater in einherjar? Myself and another drk in my shell had SE up during boss zerg and we weren't getting the normal hp>dmg. i mean I wasn't losing the normal 10% hp when swinging with SE up. even when BW wore off my hp wasn't going down 10% a swing.

I did notice my hp was going down by ~2% (and i did have gloom breastplate on) but umm.. ya...

I was using KC, my friend was using BZ. Our most recent ein was against the manticore boss. But i've also noticed this against the wivre, marid and buffalo bosses on tier1 ein.

note: I was doing full dmg on wivre boss for about 20 swings (was doing ~180 dmg/swing) then it randomly went down to 20-25 dmg/swing and i wasn't losing hp as normal. I asked rdm's to dispel but there was no effect.

This just seems odd to me, since in all other conditions I can think of where souleater dmg is resisted, you still lose the 10% hp/swing.

Sry if this has been posted on b4, I was just checking if I was missing something.

I'm mainly interested cuz I have other jobs that'd be better in ein if I cannot rely on SEBW with KC on boss.

[Kirschy]

A few Salvage and Einherjar mobs definetly have some kind innate resistance against souleater damage. Its very easy to see when you use 2hr Kraken but becomes less apparant when using a 2hr /w a 2H weapon.

[yrpaine]

ya i understand some mobs resist souleater dmg. but the normal rule is that you still lose the hp and you don't do the dmg.

The odd part i noted was that I started out on a wivre doing full dmg, and it suddenly souleater stopped working completely (i didn't lose any hp but SE effect was still up). but it did seem that the 2% that the gloom breastplate adds was still taking effect and i was losing ~2%hp /swing

[Kirschy]

Oh wow, I'm sorry, I re-read your post and totalli misunderstood you. I've never noticed using Souleater and not losing the 10% HP. Thats very weird, I can't say I've ever seen that occur.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Maybe it's an anti-souleater-zerg measure that they are implementing in newer content.

Very interesting.

[Indalecia]

Wow, I thought it was just me being stupid and attacking the Wivre from the front.

[Maaglin]

I go drk to all of your einherjars and I have not noticed this. I'll look for it next time we go.

[RKenshin]

Same thing happened to me on a few odd occasions, no idea why.

[Mertron]

I used to go DRK to einherjar and just go WAR now instead for DD, whenever I would go kclub zerg there was always something wrong with the damage output.

[Thorny]

Sort of different, since the person still lost hp, but does nyzul cerberus resist souleater? Brought a drk for the first time in ages and they were losing about 5% of their max hp per swing <__> Does he have an innate damage penalty(or piercing penalty)?

[Maxxthepenguin]

Sort of different, since the person still lost hp, but does nyzul cerberus resist souleater? Brought a drk for the first time in ages and they were losing about 5% of their max hp per swing <__> Does he have an innate damage penalty(or piercing penalty)?

Well, if it is a general damage type penalty, you would still lose 10/12% per swing. If it's a specific souleater penalty, you'll only lose a fraction of the health you would otherwise (well so it seems), so maybe cerb has such a penalty >_>

[Kyreth]

I smell an anti-Krakenzerg measure going on there, definitely.

Wonder if it's a resistance issue that can be pushed past, or a pure "Souleater does less damage but you lose less HP" issue?

[Therin]

Nyzul Cerberus definitely doesn't have any type of resistances to Souleater.

I've never heard of this happening in Einherjar either, and I used to bring DRK a lot.

[Kirschy]

I had a similar experience with Nyzul Cerberus. I used a Fanatic's Drink popped 2hr + SE and my HP was going down like crazy. It didn't use stoneskin, was just resisting souleater or had some kind of damage taken -% so I couldn't cure back the HP I was losing from souleater.

[Thorny]

Yea, I should have been more clear. They had blood weapon up, and still lost about 5% of their max per swing(while hitting in the 80s as a galka).

[Khelek]

I'm pretty sure Cerb gets a dmg taken -% when it's firesday or fire weather.. that might be what you experienced. Don't quote me on it though. It's just something I recall from doing real cerb. never had it happen during nyzul.

[Afrohatch]

I noticed a strange resistance myself against the Marid boss in wing 1 einherjar...was doing less than 100/hit with af1+1 helm and kraken.

[yrpaine]

Has anyone seen this happen on any of the other ein bosses other than tier1? just curious. I'll post as I try things out, but if I keep getting resisted I may just go on sam, war or blm

[Jkun]

I don't have much of a problem with most Wing III bosses like Cerb, Hydra etc, when it comes to KClub zerg but we have 3 BRD rotation, Chainspell stun and many other melees zerging them dead in under 1 min.

However, DRACULA, seems to resist Blood Weapon. He's the only mob that stood out as a challenge. Souleater will go off fine, but there won't be any HP return per hit unless there's some serious cure bombing going on.

[yrpaine]

Ok after last Ein run I noticed the issue I had with the tier 1 wivre boss at least. I was doing full dmg (~190/swing) until the wivre used tp move "Granite Hide" (which could not be dispelled). after that my souleater stopped working against it, but i still did not lose any HP which was damn weird, i just swap'd to algol after that cuz i was only doing 20dmg/swing with KC with 6x soulvoiced songs.

Looking back I believe when we did the tier 1 malboro i was doing full dmg until it absorb'd someone's shell V(or some defense buff).

I'm unsure which tp move the tier 1 buffalo boss did, if we get it again i'll take notes. I remember only doing 20dmg/swing there, but maybe my souleater wore off.

Thx for tip on the vampire boss.