Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots *contains spoilers*

[Exoduso]

Best ending ever.

That is all.

[Wintermute]

Best ending ever.

That is all.

To both a Game and a Series.

[Exoduso]

Best ending ever.

That is all.

To both a Game and a Series.

[spoiler:2jkvceh9]and I wrote this BEFORE the scene with Zero and Big Boss started lol, I saw the credits roll and thought it was the end.

Now it REALLY is the best ending ever.[/spoiler:2jkvceh9]

[Koyuki]

[spoiler:2vvebhjh]You get a shitload of DPs in Act4 if you let the audio flashbacks end.[/spoiler:2vvebhjh]

[spoiler:2vvebhjh]You can farm them in areas where a constant Alert means a neverending swarm too, P90s aren't bad DP.

You can also do the same thing in a place where the Milita pop out and get raped by PMC, jsut run around collecting their weapons.

Maybe the Raging Raven fight taking down the gliders? Not sure how much DP they give.

No "wtf awesome" areas come to mind though, especially if you're farming for the Stealth.

And FUCK at trying for a no-alert game.

Fucking Snipers, Spotters, and PMC always detect you at just the wrong time.

I snuck past what was practically a division using the Snake Eye and the map and then I get spotted by some random picking his nose in some butt-crack of the map...

Going for a no-kill game at the mo since I fucked up the no-alert on Act 1.

And how the fuck do you use the Mantis/Sorrow dolls? I can never get them to work.[/spoiler:2vvebhjh]

[spoiler:2vvebhjh]Mantis doll allows you to control alive soldiers and you just toss back on the Sixaxis to cut the strings controlling them therefore killing them. Sorrow doll sucks ass and I can really only see using it control corpses to soak up some bullets.[/spoiler:2vvebhjh]

[Wintermute]

[spoiler:8a33n789]You get a shitload of DPs in Act4 if you let the audio flashbacks end.[/spoiler:8a33n789]

[spoiler:8a33n789]You can farm them in areas where a constant Alert means a neverending swarm too, P90s aren't bad DP.

You can also do the same thing in a place where the Milita pop out and get raped by PMC, jsut run around collecting their weapons.

Maybe the Raging Raven fight taking down the gliders? Not sure how much DP they give.

No "wtf awesome" areas come to mind though, especially if you're farming for the Stealth.

And FUCK at trying for a no-alert game.

Fucking Snipers, Spotters, and PMC always detect you at just the wrong time.

I snuck past what was practically a division using the Snake Eye and the map and then I get spotted by some random picking his nose in some butt-crack of the map...

Going for a no-kill game at the mo since I fucked up the no-alert on Act 1.

And how the fuck do you use the Mantis/Sorrow dolls? I can never get them to work.[/spoiler:8a33n789]

[spoiler:8a33n789]Mantis doll allows you to control alive soldiers and you just toss back on the Sixaxis to cut the strings controlling them therefore killing them. Sorrow doll sucks ass and I can really only see using it control corpses to soak up some bullets.[/spoiler:8a33n789]

[spoiler:8a33n789]/facepalm
Forgot about the live/corpse thing...been trying to use Sorrow doll on live opponents since it's listed as blue and I'm going for a no-kill game.
hurrr[/spoiler:8a33n789]

[Jefe]

Haven't played yet, only seen the gf mess with the training >_> Do you guys recommend getting a DS3 before I start?

[Exoduso]

You don't really need it if you don't want to pay for it. It's more fun playing with it though. (but nothing like MGS1 where you actually needed a vibrating controller..)

[Krandor]

Act 3 Spoiler

[spoiler:3dss4rua]While not exactly awesome gaming, the Motorcycle section is super fun and really entertaining to watch[/spoiler:3dss4rua]

I'm going to mark this next part under a spoiler, though i don't really think it is one.

[spoiler:3dss4rua]I'm confused about one major thing in this game. If more or less all the soldiers in the game are hooked up to the system (aside from various rebels), wouldn't it stand to reason that it would be really obvious if you knock out or kill a lone soldier? I.E. it would set off warning flags to other soldiers of the faction, etc etc[/spoiler:3dss4rua]

[Koyangi]

I'm going to mark this next part under a spoiler, though i don't really think it is one.

[spoiler:3hm7hth0]I'm confused about one major thing in this game. If more or less all the soldiers in the game are hooked up to the system (aside from various rebels), wouldn't it stand to reason that it would be really obvious if you knock out or kill a lone soldier? I.E. it would set off warning flags to other soldiers of the faction, etc etc[/spoiler:3hm7hth0]

I've been wondering this too.

[Heian]

Finished earlier today, simply awesome. Well done Kojima.

[Wintermute]

I'm going to mark this next part under a spoiler, though i don't really think it is one.

[spoiler:2j1tg415]I'm confused about one major thing in this game. If more or less all the soldiers in the game are hooked up to the system (aside from various rebels), wouldn't it stand to reason that it would be really obvious if you knock out or kill a lone soldier? I.E. it would set off warning flags to other soldiers of the faction, etc etc[/spoiler:2j1tg415]

I've been wondering this too.

[spoiler:2j1tg415]By extension, wouldn't the Tranqs you use be nullified by Nanomachines?

Although, in most cases/early acts you're literally in the middle of a battlefield, one man being taken down might not seem odd.[/spoiler:2j1tg415]

[Bahamnut]

not really a spoiler, but just in case...
[spoiler:2cf1z9nw]so, i was incredibly confused as to how to kill screaming mantis at first, and outta desperation.. tried changing controller ports..

and the codec conversation that followed was hilarious! i absolutely love the sense of humor in this game/series.

johnny's awkwardness and shittiness (literally) had me laughing every scene, and I was really sad when (it seemed like) he died

anyway, if you haven't, go try changing controller ports on the mantis fight...[/spoiler:2cf1z9nw]

[Exoduso]

[spoiler:2pxmhuwe]I cracked up when he reached for Mei Ling's ass.[/spoiler:2pxmhuwe]

[Wintermute]

[spoiler:1vim4kdh]I cracked up when he reached for Mei Ling's ass.[/spoiler:1vim4kdh]

[spoiler:1vim4kdh]When he made an attempy at Meryl's was pretty good too.[/spoiler:1vim4kdh]

[Cydewinder]

Just beat it a couple of hours ago, game was epic, Especially the final Act. Game of the year without a doubt.

[spoiler:38gle5wi]Almost broke my thumb off during the microwave scene, gotta be one of the best parts of the game. The fight with Liquid/Ocelot is something I'll never foroget, and also wow@ Raiden fighting with no arms.[/spoiler:38gle5wi]

[Exoduso]

Just beat it a couple of hours ago, game was epic, Especially the final Act. Game of the year without a doubt.

[spoiler:6n52u96o]Almost broke my thumb off during the microwave scene, gotta be one of the best parts of the game. The fight with Liquid/Ocelot is something I'll never foroget, and also wow@ Raiden fighting with no arms.[/spoiler:6n52u96o]

[spoiler:6n52u96o]Since it doesn't really make a difference, you didn't have to tap so hard and so fast lol... but oh well.[/spoiler:6n52u96o]

[Arachna]

[spoiler:193sv26o]All the splitscreen scenes were terrific, it's just a shame I couldn't get a chance to watch the Raiden/Vamp battle too closely.[/spoiler:193sv26o]

[arus2001]

Haven't quite finished yet, but I've been wondering...

[spoiler:1re3lx2t]Wasn't Shadow Moses supposed to have been bombed by the end of MGS1? I mean, aside from chasing Liquid out so he wouldn't escape, that was partly why Snake and Meryl were in a rush, no?[/spoiler:1re3lx2t]

[Exoduso]

Haven't quite finished yet, but I've been wondering...

[spoiler:13j8y391]Wasn't Shadow Moses supposed to have been bombed by the end of MGS1? I mean, aside from chasing Liquid out so he wouldn't escape, that was partly why Snake and Meryl were in a rush, no?[/spoiler:13j8y391]

They called it off, remember?

[Krandor]

Going to save Act 5 for tomorrow, but holy fucking hell @ Act 4. All the boss fights were great, and the cutscenes for the end were epic beyond belief.