Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots *contains spoilers*

[killerx]

yeah I definitely missed the camera too.

just finished a couple hours ago, great game. I like how they tied it all up. Glad too that the series is finished, although a Johnny + Meryl game would probably be pretty sweet (if different in tone/gameplay).

For any of you that didn't know, you can always go back and get the items from the Mission Briefings. Just make sure you have an up to date recent save, and then exit to the main menu. From there just choose Mission Briefings, and then choose your latest save.

Any Mission Briefings you have seen so far will be available, and if you then get any missed items in them you will be asked if you want to overwrite the save file you used to view them. That is what i had to do to get a Battery i missed (you can get 6 total i believe, after my second playthrough and the first couple briefings they weren't there any more) and the Campbell face camo from Mission Briefing one.

So there is really no reason not to save and then go back and get any items you missed in them without waiting for another playthrough.

damn it i have 4 what did i miss now im mad, how did i miss 2

[archibaldcrane]

So, I haven't read the past 4 pages because I don't want to get spoiled - I'm on Act 4 now. But I just wanted to say something I found funny.

I beat the 2nd boss (flying chick on the church rooftop) the other day and saved the game afterwards. Next day, went to work, got home, sat down to do some playing.

I think I was still in cutscenes an hour later, with my only action being the MGS1 flashback dream.

Granted, they were fucking awesome hardcore cutscenes (Liquid destroying the full U.S. Army contingent), but yeah - I went to bed after that having not played MGS4 at all lol.

[Exoduso]

So, I haven't read the past 4 pages because I don't want to get spoiled - I'm on Act 4 now. But I just wanted to say something I found funny.

I beat the 2nd boss (flying chick on the church rooftop) the other day and saved the game afterwards. Next day, went to work, got home, sat down to do some playing.

I think I was still in cutscenes an hour later, with my only action being the MGS1 flashback dream.

Granted, they were fucking awesome hardcore cutscenes (Liquid destroying the full U.S. Army contingent), but yeah - I went to bed after that having not played MGS4 at all lol.

Yeah the cutscenes after Raging Raven are long as hell. But so good. It only gets better from there on, too.

[killerx]

and to think before hand people saying no way there would be hr long CS's pssshhhh lol

[Stee]

In the mission where you try to follow that one guy back to Big Mama, at one point I looked behind me to make sure no one was following me but I swear I saw someone with a big trench coat and a hat following me but I just figured I was seeing things until he actually appeared in the base later on.

Did anyone else see this? or was I hallucinating.

[Exoduso]

In the mission where you try to follow that one guy back to Big Mama, at one point I looked behind me to make sure no one was following me but I swear I saw someone with a big trench coat and a hat following me but I just figured I was seeing things until he actually appeared in the base later on.

Did anyone else see this? or was I hallucinating.

You mean those unmanned machines that sneak into the base? I never knew they follow you too lol.. that's pretty cool.

[Stee]

I might be wrong, I just remember seeing that things head and its hat peeking from a wall behind me...I should have walked up to it and shot it if it really was there but the guy I was following started to run so I didn't have time to make sure.

EDIT: Looked it up yeah that thing really does follow you....all I have to say is fucking bravo at such details in this game.

[Auspice]

You can't shoot them, I tried. I did notice it following me and knew it wasn't a person. lol

[Belkin]

Wow that is really creepy, I never noticed that when I played through twice now. I'll have to look next time. @_@

[Exoduso]

I can't believe I didn't notice it before lol, I move my camera a lot too.

[archibaldcrane]

Man that's awesome.

[Galkaeater]

I think we've gotten up to the point where endless spoiler tagging is no longer necessary, but because I don't want to disappoint all of my followers I'll use them anyway.

[spoiler:cx8h6whk]First off, I would like to say that this was an incredibly good game and I would give it a 10/10. The story was magnificent and it really tied up all the characters of all the games into one nice little bundle that's a little hard to understand, but not too hard.

However, I was disappointed with the end sequence of the game. The last "fun" boss fight you have is against Screaming Mantis. After that your only real enemy are those stupid little Gekko. The fist fight with Ocelot was epic, but if you think back to all the other Metal Gear games, there is always a sequence of fights leading to that last big fight. In MGS1 you have (Rex > Liquid atop of Rex > Car chase), in MGS2 you have (Multiple RAYs > Sword fight with Solidus), MGS3 is the best IMO because you go (Volgin > Awesome motorcycle chase > Shagohod > Volgin on Shagohod > The Boss). The fist fight was epic but I was expecting the ending to be a lot more hands-on.

When you find out that FOX from MGS3 are the Patriots that was pretty epic. Who would have known that when you were in the jail cell in MGS1, the body that was in there with you was the body of one of the Patriots.

When and why does Grey Fox kill Para-Medic?

When Outer Haven is rising out of the water for the first time, you see something a lot like Mt. Rushmore on it. I couldn't tell whose faces those were expect I thought I saw Big Boss. Who were the other faces?

On Shadow Moses, how exactly do you sneak past the rooms filled with those annoying ass little Gekko? They are so freaking hard to sneak past unless someone has figured out an easy and simple way to do so.

How does Raiden end up teaming up and working with EVA? My memory of MGS2 is a bit shabby but why does he end up going in to "exile" and why does he basically become another Grey Fox?

I'm trying to figure out the significance of Vamp other than him being a really bad ass henchman. I don't recall him aspiring to reach large goals like Ocelot, Liquid, Snake, Eva, Big Boss etc. I've always wondered what his actual purpose was.

I beat the game last night but I'm not going to play it again until I've played all the other games in order, starting with MGS3. I have more questions that I will ask when I remember them.[/spoiler:cx8h6whk]

[spoiler:cx8h6whk]the mount rushmore thing was solidus solid liquid big boss

and vamp probably join with liquid because he hated the patriots for killing most of dead cell and probably had something to do with naomi being with liquid too[/spoiler:cx8h6whk]

[killerx]

playing through act one just kililng people like crazy and these like voice pops outa no where and says "you here just for killing or you like killing dont you" and it makes snake throw up any one else have this happen?

[Koyuki]

playing through act one just kililng people like crazy and these like voice pops outa no where and says "you here just for killing or you like killing dont you" and it makes snake throw up any one else have this happen?

Had that happen once on my first play through. Dunno why it happened but it sounded like Ocelot.

[Exoduso]

playing through act one just kililng people like crazy and these like voice pops outa no where and says "you here just for killing or you like killing dont you" and it makes snake throw up any one else have this happen?

Did you get DP's after that? Might've been another flashback. They're hidden all over the game (tons of them in Act4, but I found some in other acts as well..)

[Kazen]

playing through act one just kililng people like crazy and these like voice pops outa no where and says "you here just for killing or you like killing dont you" and it makes snake throw up any one else have this happen?

I had it happen to me in act 1 and in act 2 where I was killing alot of people.

[Rydir]

I think it happens if you kill 50 people with in a certain amount of time.

[Kazen]

I think it happens if you kill 50 people with in a certain amount of time.

Makes sense, the first time I was farming drebin points for my dot scope in act 1. The second time I was farming drebin points at the power station in act 2 for a 60k sniper rifle (I think it was 60k) and also points for more grenades for my M4s grenade launcher. But then I got smart, why kill them when I can let them kill each other and send the M.K II out to collect guns while snake layed in the grass somewhere safe.

[killerx]

playing through act one just kililng people like crazy and these like voice pops outa no where and says "you here just for killing or you like killing dont you" and it makes snake throw up any one else have this happen?

Did you get DP's after that? Might've been another flashback. They're hidden all over the game (tons of them in Act4, but I found some in other acts as well..)

no thats what i thought at first, just laying in the middle of the street killing wave after wave or people lol

[Exoduso]

Anybody figure out how to get past that first room in Shadow Moses (the tank hangar right at the beginning) without triggering the alarm? I figure I can just use a Chaff, but I want to save them if I can.