Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots *contains spoilers*

[Daahan]

Link to the database please?

[Cydewinder]

I think it's only on the PSN.

[Krandor]

Yeah, Playstation Store only. It's about 77 MB for reference sake.

[Daahan]

I see.

Well I just played through MGS3 again and I had a couple of questions about Ocelot's phone conversation at the end. It appears the first call he makes he's talking to either the KGB or someone in Russia and in the second call it seems like he's talking to the director of the CIA or some kind of American establishment.

He mentions that half of the Philosopher's Legacy is still missing and that it might still be with the KGB. Can anyone explain this or is it explained in Portable Ops or something?

[Krandor]

Portable Ops explains the story a bit more.

[Nuriko]

Yeah, the second half of the legacy is recaptured in Portable Ops I believe and is then used to create the Patriots.

Also, according to the database, the name "Johnny" has a bigger history in the series than I thought. I also wondered how he (Akiba) was able to get away with using all the weapons and be part of a team sharing information with each other without having nano-machines in his body, they explain it all really well I thought.

[Krandor]

He actually mentions in Act 5 that he tried to use his wrist computer to keep up, but since it's nowhere near as precise he would always fall behind.

[Wintermute]

He actually mentions in Act 5 that he tried to use his wrist computer to keep up, but since it's nowhere near as precise he would always fall behind.

Doesn't explain the ID/nano tagged Weapons.

Though there's plenty of Drebins around to overcome that.

[Nuriko]

He actually mentions in Act 5 that he tried to use his wrist computer to keep up, but since it's nowhere near as precise he would always fall behind.

Doesn't explain the ID/nano tagged Weapons.

Though there's plenty of Drebins around to overcome that.

The database explains he hacked/modified them himself kinda with parts he special ordered from some place in Japan, don't remember the full name, but it's where "Akiba" comes from.

[Doombear]

Said he acquired them in the Akihabara (or Akiba) district in Japan, a place he is a fan of... hence his nickname. Oddly enough that is the district that the Akihabara Massacre took place in just 12 days ago...

[Wintermute]

Said he acquired them in the Akihabara (or Akiba) district in Japan, a place he is a fan of... hence his nickname.

I'd know that if it weren't for SCEE's love of Europe meaning that we don't get the MGS Database until they pull their fucking fingers out.

The Cunts.

[Doombear]

Yeah, i agree Winter... that is pretty unfortunate that Europe won't get this as fast. That is apparently due to them having to translate it into so many languages i hear? You should still at least be given the option to download it in English (and the handful of other languages) since it/they are done.

Apparently even if you have a US or JP account it won't recognize a game save which could mean that the unlocked content (from a completed game's gamesave) won't unlock. =(

Fingers crossed for ya for early next week.

EDIT: Nevermind. Can't logically be delayed due to translation as there are at least 5 languages available in the US release that i have... so back to the SCEE hates Europe belief again.

[Krandor]

Does SCEE release Playstation Store updates on Thursday or is it on a seperate day?

[izembo]

thursday always

[Wintermute]

Yeah, i agree Winter... that is pretty unfortunate that Europe won't get this as fast. That is apparently due to them having to translate it into so many languages i hear? You should still at least be given the option to download it in English (and the handful of other languages) since it/they are done.

Apparently even if you have a US or JP account it won't recognize a game save which could mean that the unlocked content (from a completed game's gamesave) won't unlock. =(

Fingers crossed for ya for early next week.

EDIT: Nevermind. Can't logically be delayed due to translation as there are at least 5 languages available in the US release that i have... so back to the SCEE hates Europe belief again.

Bullshit indeed, the JP version is multi-lingual, just SCEE are lazy, amongst other 4-letter words.

Not bothering with a JP/US PSN account since some info will be blacked out due to MGS4 spoilers.
That and my PS3 seems to dislike PSN with a passion and refuses to maintain a stable connection.

[Nuriko]

Random MGS related links...

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168338 -MGS5 talk
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19520 -Laughing Beauty lolz

[Exoduso]

Random MGS related links...

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168338 -MGS5 talk

I wouldn't mind remakes of MG/MG2, or some more incidents BB went through. A prequel that lets you control The Boss and her Cobra Unit could be interesting, too. Or showing where the fuck Raiden was for 5 years. There's a lot of material to work with, should be interesting to see which one they're gonna choose.

[Exoduso]

RL models/counterparts of the B&B corps bosses:

http://images2.ggl.com/images/Lyndall02.jpg
http://images2.ggl.com/images/Mieko01.jpg
http://images2.ggl.com/images/Scarlett03.jpg
http://images2.ggl.com/images/Yumi04.jpg

[Kaylia]

I have one thing to say about the database....wtf@Vamp being gay with Fortune's father (black captain in MGS2)...was there any hints in the game?

#1 and #4 are hot.

[Cydewinder]

It's Copy/paste time, bunch of little hidden stuff in MGS.
Some of this stuff is already known, but I learned something new too.


Laughing Octopus: Laughing Octopus quickly leaps away outside the window during one of the L1 sequences when you first meet Naomi.

Naomi's chest: In Act 2, after Snake loses his Psyche when Namoi tells him how long he has, press L1 to look at her chest and recharge Snake's Psyche.

Naomi upskirt: In Act 2, when Snake's talking to Naomi and drops his cigarette, use the hidden L1 option to look up her skirt.

Psycho Mantis' ghost: During the first intermission sequence with Beauty and the Beast, after using the option to look through L1, look to the left to see the ghost of Psycho Mantis.

Sorrow: During the Psycho Mantis intermission sequence, keep L1 held. When Psycho Mantis disappears, you will hear Sorrow say something. Hold L1 (even though you are not prompted), and you will see Sorrow. Press X to start a flashback.

Sit in a box to reduce stress faster.

If something during an intermission sequences causes Snake's Psyche gauge to decrease, rapidly tap X to replenish it.

When you are tracking Naomi's footprints in Act 2 after the Laughing Octopus fight, you will arrive to a river. Instead of crossing the river, look to your left. You will see another set of footprints. Follow these, and they will lead you to a crop circle where you will hear some strange dialog by the Colonel about an alien abduction.

f you kill a large enough number of enemies in a conflict zone, you will hear Liquid from Metal Gear Solid say "You enjoy all the killing, that's why!", and Snake will vomit. Note: You can delay the vomiting by hugging the wall. The next time you kill someone, however, it will happen again until you finally vomit.

You can step up on statue pedestals, and press Triangle to assume various poses. With one of the statues, you will grab its crotch. Do this several times, and that part of the statue will break off.

You can buy a magazine with pictures of the models that the Beauty And The Beast unit were based on from Drebin.

Flick the TV remote with the Mk II to get Japanese models to appear on the television.

Flick the remote for the screen Campbell talks to you on with the Mk II to see pictures of ladies in their underwear.

When Naomi is in the Nomad and on the computer talking, use the Mk II to look at Otacon's computer. His webcam is focused on Naomi's cleavage.

During the third playthrough of the game, when you first meet Rose she will be wearing a new shirt.

When you speak with Rose on the Codec, shake the Sixaxis to make her breasts move.

When you are in the basement lab at Shadow Moses and the Gecko appears, send the Mk II to the electric console to the right of the elevator. Note: This is the same console that was destroyed with the rocket in the original Metal Gear Solid. Use the Mk II to reactivate the electric floor and destroy the Gecko.

During the fight with Laughing Octopus, lie down on one of the beds face up. She will straddles you, then Snake will knock her off.

At the third part of the final fight, when Liquid Ocelot grabs Snake by the neck, allow the controller to idle. After some time, Liquid Ocelot will kiss Snake on the cheek.

After dying, call Rose to hear a conversation about Snake having dreams of being killed or a comment from Snake saying that he feels like he has died once before.

In Act 4, kill one of the wolves after you defeat Crying Wolf. The others will attack you. Call Otacon, and he will wince. Call Rose, and she will tell you that animal cruelty is the first sign of criminal behavior, and says that she will have you psychologically assessed if you continue to kill them.
Hold up a FROG soldier, and body search them. When you would normally ball crush a male prisoner, they will say "You men are all the same", "You're disgusting!", or "Ugh" and kick you.
When you search a FROG soldier when they have no items, she will giggle as if ticklish.
When you search a FROG soldier and touch her chest, sometime she will moan or say "You're pretty good at this".

Whenever Snake is smoking there is always a no smoking sign behind him.

When tracking Naomi in Act 2, look to the right when crossing the river to see a guard relieving himself.
Follow the resistance member in Act 3 to see him urinating in the fountain in the small park.
In the central park during Act 3, there is a statue that Snake can interact and imitate. Stay in that pose until a resistance member appears, and he will urinate on you.

You can see a ghost image of Hideo Kojima in Otacon's lab using the camera. It is between Policenauts and the poster that from a distance reads "Final Fantasy VI".

When the game first begins, the channels on the television are numbered 15, 16, 23, and 42, which are part of the number sequence from the television show Lost.

During the Mantis fight, switch your controller ports when your television switches to "Hideo 2". Otacon will come on the Codec and notify you that the trick does not work twice. You will also get a suggestion about destroying the bust.

When you die in Act 4, the "Game Over" music from the first Metal Gear Solid will play.

After you die during the final Boss battle and select "Exit", it quickly changes to "Exist". Liquid Ocelot says "Not yet Snake, it's not over yet" and it moves the pointer back to "Continue". This is a reference to a quote by Liquid in the original Metal Gear Solid.

When Drebin and Little Grey jump off of the Stryker, they will land in Naked Snake's pose from Metal Gear Solid 3, when he first arrives for the Operation Virtuous mission.

Equip the Patriot gun to hear music from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater.

Press L1 to view the description for the Mosin-Nagant. It mentions The End and his sniper duel with Big Boss.

If you stare at Meryl's breasts, she will blush similarly to how she did in Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes.

When Snake and Naomi talk about war changing and how it used to be "just a game", all of the Metal Gear Solid titles appear in an indexed list. After MGS4, there are a few boxes titled "Under Construction."

When you first enter Big Mama's hideout and the guards start talking about Snake, press L1 to see posters from Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops.

Drebin sells laundered guns, called "Naked Guns". Drebin's name is a reference to Frank Drebin from The Naked Gun movies.