System Idle Processes running at 40%

[Tekki]

Whats the possible hardware failures to cause something like this. When im idle, nothing at all running, my CPU is at 30-40%. With a few things running and XI, 80% CPU.....

Can something run under the System Idle Processes that I cant see to make it sit that high? Or is more likely a hardware failure? Whats a solution to finding out if its either one of those problems?

Is it safe to post my hijackthis log publicly for an opinion?

[Snowknight26]

Check the task manager.. whats using the most CPU?

[Tekki]

System Idle Process 70
csrss.exe 17-20
nvsvs32.exe 11

http://www.arista-linkshell.com/tekk...Crap/task1.png
http://www.arista-linkshell.com/tekk...Crap/task2.png

[Cephius]

nvsvc32 is a nvidia graphics driver process, nothing wrong there

the other is a windows process related to the GUI subsystem of windows, but many viruses are known to spoof it. Run a virus scan and see if it comes up with anything.

[SamanosukeShiva]

my mem usage for pol is around 200,000k is it normal? lol

[Tekki]

nothing came up initially when i ran every scan available. ccleaner, spybot, avg, everything. im not running avg in safemode to see if anything comes up.

my other question would be caused by a hardware issue if i cant figure out what the problem is software wise... if so, what would i look for to try and diagnose what is failing and how to fix it?

[Cephius]

nothing came up initially when i ran every scan available. ccleaner, spybot, avg, everything. im not running avg in safemode to see if anything comes up.

my other question would be caused by a hardware issue if i cant figure out what the problem is software wise... if so, what would i look for to try and diagnose what is failing and how to fix it?

If its not a virus it may be something with your graphics card. Try uninstalling the drivers and updating them to the latest from Nvidia's website, or using a different video card if you have one. See if the CPU usage goes down after that.

[SephYuyX]

Whats the possible hardware failures to cause something like this. When im idle, nothing at all running, my CPU is at 30-40%. With a few things running and XI, 80% CPU.....

So nothings running and you have 40% CPU? As whith what Cephius said, the nvidia thing is normal.. the csrss being that high.. usually isnt. It may be a spoof, check out http://www.auditmypc.com/process/csrss.asp for info about it. 80% may be normal for your PC when FFXI is running. It was 99% on my old PC.

Can something run under the System Idle Processes that I cant see to make it sit that high? Or is more likely a hardware failure? Whats a solution to finding out if its either one of those problems?

And this part confuses me, are you saying you dont want Idle Process a high %? You DO want that process as high as possible. It should be 99% if youre idle.

[Tekki]

Ya i relized my wording was reversed after postin it. Ya I want it to be higher... My total CPU usage should be less then 10%, but the cold start average is 30%. Ive tracked it down to it being the csrss.exe Its was takes up most of my CPU. I cant decide if its legit or not. I try clicking to turn it off but task manager refuses... making me think its legit.

[SephYuyX]

It's legit if you cant end it.

[Shuemue]

It doesn't look like there's anything wrong with your pc at all in my opinion.

[Tekki]

My LS mate might be on to something.

nvsvc32.exe is in reference to your nvidia drivers.

taken from a microsoft securities website:
"In regards to csrss.exe, It can be a virus, but it is also a Windows file. As a windows file, it can consume a high % of your processor if you enable hardware graphic aceleration"

Tekki, if theres a way to reset whatever you did to your nvidia card, please do it. I'm also concerned that you told me you adjusted your registry settings to maximize ffxi. Best case scenario is that you can revert your settings, worst case scenario is that youve changed your registry settings beyond a point of recovery if you dont know what was changed. That leads us down a path of backup/wipe/reload.....

Since we both play on a notebook with identical cards, I can help you adjust your graphics settings to run in high resolution without using system resources.

Let me know.

Although me editing the resolution part of the FFXI registry didn't mess up my comp, I think the csrss.exe and nvsvc32.exe might be hand in hand with my problem. Both are the sources of my CPU hogging. Even though I'm starting to convince myself its the problem, Im not sure what steps to take to find a solution or confirm my suspicion.

[SephYuyX]

Set your graphics card settings all to low, and see if it happens. Restart the PC of course.
If nothing changes, uninstall your video card drivers and see if the problem still occurs using no drivers / windows defualt drivers. Restart after uninstalling as well.

Also make sure you have the newest windows updates, and are using the newest version of DirectX.

[Tekki]

From here i found this:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthrea ... ss.exe+cpu

t seems there's a conflict between rpc service and nvidia driver service. The svchost that is taking up a bunch of cpu probably houses rpc service. I fixed the issue on my computer by disabling the nvidia driver service (nvsvc32).

if you dont know how

start->run->services.msc
located and right click nvidia display driver service. click stop service. ight click again and select properties. Under the General tab, locate the pull down menu that says startup type. set it to disabled.

The service doesn't seem to be critical, and atleast for me, it solved the problem.

I did that.... Im at 99% System idle Process....

Problem is I feel like I read a book and simply punched in the proper method without understanding what I just did. What did I do? Did I fix this problem the right way? Or did this reveal something so I can fix the problem in a safer way?

EDIT: It simply seems to me that I disabled the driver "helper" part of my video card, but nothing critical in the way it operates. Is this true?

[jkim1162]

From here i found this:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthrea ... ss.exe+cpu

t seems there's a conflict between rpc service and nvidia driver service. The svchost that is taking up a bunch of cpu probably houses rpc service. I fixed the issue on my computer by disabling the nvidia driver service (nvsvc32).

if you dont know how

start->run->services.msc
located and right click nvidia display driver service. click stop service. ight click again and select properties. Under the General tab, locate the pull down menu that says startup type. set it to disabled.

The service doesn't seem to be critical, and atleast for me, it solved the problem.

I did that.... Im at 99% System idle Process....

Problem is I feel like I read a book and simply punched in the proper method without understanding what I just did. What did I do? Did I fix this problem the right way? Or did this reveal something so I can fix the problem in a safer way?

EDIT: It simply seems to me that I disabled the driver "helper" part of my video card, but nothing critical in the way it operates. Is this true?

From my experience, disabling the Nvidia Display Driver Service, basically prevents you from changing anything in the control panel from what it is already set as.

Example I had it set to 16xQ AA and I tried to change it to application-controlled for benchmarking purposes. I would get the same results for both settings. Once I re-enabled the services, I was able to actually change it so that my benchmark score would reflect it.

[Day]

Nvidia Display Driver Service - This service generally doesn't have an essential function. In my experience, most people can safely disable it and not run into any difficulties or reduced functionality whatsoever. In fact some users note that disabling this service improves Windows startup and shutdown times and general performance. However, some people report potential issues with temperature monitoring on their graphics cards if this service is disabled. In general if you feel you are experiencing any other strange behavior due to the disabling of this service, set it back to Automatic and restart it. Note: In Vista, the Nvidia Display Driver Service may be a startup item (as opposed to an actual service) called NvSvc in some versions of the Forceware drivers, but the same description applies.

Taken from: http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_4.html

[Tekki]

cool well.... it fixed my CPU problem...

Now to move onto the next one.

Fallso, like i said, has the same Comp as me. He runs ZD GameRecorder. He reports that he can record in full res, at the worst, 15 FPS.

My system still drops like a rock on FPS. Its not as terrible but its still unplayable.

This is super fucking lame now. I thought it was the CPU issue, got that sorted, but its still not that. Whenever I run the recorder, it doubles the CPU and Mem Usage. Almost exactly x2

[Day]

Is he recording in full screen and you windowed or vice versa? Simple things first :D

[Tekki]

Ya I go into windowed mode. (My windowed mode is full screen. Essentially i just use it to alt tab) Then I load the game recorder.

[Day]

Is that what he does though? Trying to figure out what could be different.