Ix'Mnk

[Fistandantilus]

Wow that's pretty cool, lately due to such horrible drops I've been having a friend come THF/RDM and use dispel after my nukes which builds up CE pretty fast and 1 dispel will usually pull it off me after a while, letting me nearly spam nukes and speed the fight up. This should help a ton though if I don't have a THF with me or something, even if I do this will speed it up alot. Will try this for sure next fight!

[mdkuser]

I've done this NM with THF/NIN and RDM/NIN. Why use THF/RDM lol? use accomplcie on thf/nin and help kite.

[Fistandantilus]

I've done this NM with THF/NIN and RDM/NIN. Why use THF/RDM lol? use accomplcie on thf/nin and help kite.

/RDM is not for cures of phalanx, it's for Dispel and Sleep to build CE. I stated that very clearly. If you need /nin for any reason on this fight you're doing it completely wrong. With THF/RDM they can spam accomplice and toss out dispel/sleep after nukes and let the RDM nuke nearly nonstop without hardly ever pulling hate, speeding up the fight a lot. If you need /nin for your Thief to help kite I'm not really sure what to say...

[Kaeko]

I've done this NM with THF/NIN and RDM/NIN. Why use THF/RDM lol? use accomplcie on thf/nin and help kite.

/RDM is not for cures of phalanx, it's for Dispel and Sleep to build CE. I stated that very clearly. If you need /nin for any reason on this fight you're doing it completely wrong. With THF/RDM they can spam accomplice and toss out dispel/sleep after nukes and let the RDM nuke nearly nonstop without hardly ever pulling hate, speeding up the fight a lot. If you need /nin for your Thief to help kite I'm not really sure what to say...

I'd just like to point out the effectiveness of this strategy.

32 Dispels = 10,000 CE (cap)

1 point of damage on a mob around lvl80 like Ix'MNK is less than 1 CE (100 damage gives less than 100 CE).

Ix'MNK has about 6,000 HP.

Excluding VE numbers, which will decay, you can have your RDM nuke until Ix'MNK dies and he will still not overtake THF/RDM hate assuming enough dispels were used.

[Fistandantilus]

I've done this NM with THF/NIN and RDM/NIN. Why use THF/RDM lol? use accomplcie on thf/nin and help kite.

/RDM is not for cures of phalanx, it's for Dispel and Sleep to build CE. I stated that very clearly. If you need /nin for any reason on this fight you're doing it completely wrong. With THF/RDM they can spam accomplice and toss out dispel/sleep after nukes and let the RDM nuke nearly nonstop without hardly ever pulling hate, speeding up the fight a lot. If you need /nin for your Thief to help kite I'm not really sure what to say...

I'd just like to point out the effectiveness of this strategy.

32 Dispels = 10,000 CE (cap)

1 point of damage on a mob around lvl80 like Ix'MNK is less than 1 CE (100 damage gives less than 100 CE).

Ix'MNK has about 6,000 HP.

Excluding VE numbers, which will decay, you can have your RDM nuke until Ix'MNK dies and he will still not overtake THF/RDM hate assuming enough dispels were used.

Yeah, assuming he is using Accomplice each minute (Think that is the 1 minute recharge one? whichever is 1min/25%) it really doesn't take that many dispel's to cap to reach an amount of CE that is un-obtainable for the RDM. Obviously it is not efficient to have the THF stand and spam hate tools so at the start there is a bit of ping-ponging nuke->dispel, but that doesn't really last long. The fun part is early on when there isn't TOO much CE, so that after a nuke the Thf will cast dispel to get it back, then I'll do refresh on myself or something small, it'll turn and run at me then due to VE decay it will head back to Thf before it reaches me.

Not to say that any of this is needed at all, it's an easy fight to solo but with going 0/23 on the cape, I've gotten to the point where I don't really want to waste a pop item without some placebo TH, and if a Thf comes you might as well make them useful.