SAM Merit Order?

[Starr]

I did store tp 5/5 then meditate 5/5 then 1 shikyoki now gonna do all 5 overwhelm

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

I went: 8 GKT > 3(5) Overwhelm > 5 Store TP > 5 Meditate > 5 Blade Bash

[Xhu]

15 TP on a zanshin proc is pretty awesome, but it's not enough to save a hit to 100 TP, defeating the purpose. And over 1000 swings with 95% accuracy, you'd only land a whopping 4 zanshin swings. Even at 85% accuracy, it's only 12.

Thought id post in here as a lot of SAMs have already posted in and it seems relevant..

I was searching for some info on zanshin and saw rukes post - can anyone point me in the direction anyone doing any detailed research on zanshin proc rate or the effect of enhance zanshin items? how did you get 4/1000 - i havent seen that anywhere?

Thanks

4/1000 comes from the fact that you can only Zanshin on missed hits. His example had 95% accuracy, which means 5% misses. Over the course of 1000 swings, you will miss 50 times - and 4 of those will proc Zanshin (This implies an 8% Zanshin rate).

thanks!

[Max™]

Guess I'm the only one who prefers to buy up the cheapo merits right off, then grind out the longer ones.

1 recast, 1 weapon skill, 1 store tp is 3 merits

2 weapon skill is 3 merits

Naturally, the first thing you will want to cap is probably skill, 14~ Acc/16 Att really is one of the best ways you can spend those merits, but when weapons get up to 3, it just seems to make more sense to buy up the 1 and 2 merit bits in between putting another 3 into skill.

[RKenshin]

15 TP on a zanshin proc is pretty awesome, but it's not enough to save a hit to 100 TP, defeating the purpose. And over 1000 swings with 95% accuracy, you'd only land a whopping 4 zanshin swings. Even at 85% accuracy, it's only 12.

Thought id post in here as a lot of SAMs have already posted in and it seems relevant..

I was searching for some info on zanshin and saw rukes post - can anyone point me in the direction anyone doing any detailed research on zanshin proc rate or the effect of enhance zanshin items? how did you get 4/1000 - i havent seen that anywhere?

Thanks

4/1000 comes from the fact that you can only Zanshin on missed hits. His example had 95% accuracy, which means 5% misses. Over the course of 1000 swings, you will miss 50 times - and 4 of those will proc Zanshin (This implies an 8% Zanshin rate).

Actually, slight corrections:

1000 swings, 95% accuracy = 50 misses

10% Zanshin rate (assumed), on 50 swings, = 5 Zanshin activations

95% accuracy on 5 Zanshin activations, floored = 4 hits.

Also, forgot to reply to these:

Also, for Ruke...this is different for you with a relic, but those times where you get "stuck" with >100 tp, the best use for that tp is to Shikikoyo it. Both Hagun and Onimaru suck with Sekkanoki. It is far more damage for your group to Shikikoyo the extra TP to another melee (since there is really nothing special about doing a self-skillchain in many situations, you can aways do one with someone else), so I could see meriting it further as beneficial with a Hagun. The 1 extra point now is meh...but going 4/5 after the update may be decent. I mean, it's that or Blade Bash, right?

I usually end up with a extra TP less often than my Shiki recast is ready with a 15m recast. I wouldn't take it further.

@ RK: You say blade bash is 90% but on what mobs, HNMs in particular?

Anything that can be stunned from what I've seen since they upgraded bash effects. I've used it to stun weapon skills on anything from chariots, to einherjar bosses, to odin, to sky, to ToA NMs, etc.