Jailer of Hope...

[Peffernuss]

I'm wondering, what is the lowest number of people you can kill Jailer of Hope with? I'm planning a run, most people in my LS can 2box as well so... what's the lowest number you can kill this guy with? :O

[Drex]

With Bio II and lots of reraise, you could probably solo it. Drag a whm along for r3 and make it a duo!

[Dioma]

I'd say the lowest would be 5, 2 Tanks (PLD/NIN is what I'd recommend here), RDM, BRD, WHM. Solo tanking it is kinda of a pain because of it constantly stripping shadows and if it does that before a Burst II, could be death :/ But it might be possible to do with 4. The rest would be just to speed things up.

[onigami]

his tp moves hit pretty hard, along with thundaga3, i wouldnt wanna do it with less than 3 blms, a pld with movement speed, and a couple whm or rdm. 6 ish.

[Peffernuss]

Hmm.. thanks guys ^^ Well, good thing is, I have 3 blm friends, a PLD with wlegs myself, and a rdm + whm.. so that should be enough and the strat would be kite and nuke?

[cdgreg]

Hmm.. thanks guys ^^ Well, good thing is, I have 3 blm friends, a PLD with wlegs myself, and a rdm + whm.. so that should be enough and the strat would be kite and nuke?

I thought hope moved at flee speed?

[onigami]

Hmm.. thanks guys ^^ Well, good thing is, I have 3 blm friends, a PLD with wlegs myself, and a rdm + whm.. so that should be enough and the strat would be kite and nuke?

I thought hope moved at flee speed?

yes, he moves fast. he'll added effect: stun u too like KB. throw down ample stuns.
we kite it around that island SW of the ???. in a big enough circle so the mages dont get hit with that silencing move. torque drop rate is like 5% so dont get ur "hopes" up.

[Zidiane]

Can't you bind it rather easily? Been a while since i messed with debuffs on JoH, i dont remember exactly what landed or not.

[Therin]

Kiting Hope is ridiculously dumb.

Bring 2 RDM/NINs and at least 1 BLM/NIN and just ping-pong tank.

[Thorny]

I thought all jailers were immune to stun.. that aside, barthunder thunder carol and haidate let me resist a shadow strip -> burst 2 for double digits before and thundaga 3 doing similar, with a real thunder build i'm sure it would be a joke for NIN NIN RDM BRD or so <_>

[Lordwafik]

What I noticed with hope is he's less inclined to cast spells when you don't kite it. We straight tanked it with pld/nin and nin/drk standing almost on top of eachother, it only casted 2 spells the whole fight, one of them was when the blms pulled hate and hope nuked them all.

[Darkhelmet]

Does it have a large MAB?

[fallenleaf]

What I noticed with hope is he's less inclined to cast spells when you don't kite it. We straight tanked it with pld/nin and nin/drk standing almost on top of eachother, it only casted 2 spells the whole fight, one of them was when the blms pulled hate and hope nuked them all.

I definitely agree with this. we did ~4 hopes a few weeks ago and it only cast 1-3 times per fight straight tanking it.

[Meat]

I'm fairly certain he only hulks up when someone out of melee range takes hate

[Thorny]

It only casts after using plasma charge, since plasma charge is self targetted depending how spread out you are for your kite it'll likely be forced to use it occasionally. While straight tanking, it should have access to it's entire repertoire of moves, and as a result use less plasma charge.

[Suterusu]

It only casts after using plasma charge, since plasma charge is self targetted depending how spread out you are for your kite it'll likely be forced to use it occasionally. While straight tanking, it should have access to it's entire repertoire of moves, and as a result use less plasma charge.

Sounds about right. We've melee burned this in 3-4 minutes before and I don't rememebr one nuke. The only thing that really hurts is he gets mad and spams Aerial Collision sometimes. Just don't kite this and you won't really need to worry about thunder builds. He uses Mighty Strikes? So shadows are a must.


Easist of the TierII jailer IMO.

[mdkuser]

I'm sure 2 people can do it using the wall of justice. Have 1 person pop, bring it to the wall. 2nd person on the other side, keep dia on it to keep the NM busy at wall, while second HPs and comes back BLM to dem side. Then nuke it down. I've done it like that with 1 poper + 4 BLM+1 brd.

[Peffernuss]

Thanks guys ^^ managed to kill it with 3, pld/nin rdm/nin blm/nin. Thanks for the help! :D