37+ in campaign

[Spekkio]

Actually, if you're defending friendly territory a Scholar can do very well, especially if you built up a decent AN supply.

Medicate, medicate, medicate. Gives you plenty of MP to toss stuff around for those expensive Accessions, and it's much less boring than sitting on your butt singing or barspelling all day.

OK colour me dumb, but what do you mean by "medicate"?

(NB past campaign experiences were going whm/nin and tanking stuff, pretty much all I did.)

buy meds from tag guy. like the black mine glitch for smn, but you actually want the items.

[rezn0r]

a ton of insane shit i didn't & wouldn't have known before reading this thread

holy shit thank you, saving all of this

OK colour me dumb, but what do you mean by "medicate"?

smoke a bit of pot, it'll help with the tedium

[Radec]

If your bard is high enough (Mine isn't, yet >.>) try cycling etudes on yourself for 3 full minutes, then use 2 other abilities/spells. This should give the same XP, but greatly improves allied note rewards to help you rank up faster. Each song/ability appears to be worth 10AN

I got high enough to cycle etudes on myself. Cast 25 songs (24 etudes + ballad) in 4 minutes, 2 barspells. Got 195xp (level 33, so 0.6 multiplier) and the same 170AN. It appears that the cap is on both AN and XP, but AN takes no level penalty. I didn't have as much time to run around and avoid mobs as I normally would, only had about 30s out of the 4 minutes to move.

Likely the best solution here is 14 etudes, ballad (last so that it runs while you're moving around), 2 (or more, if going longer than 4 mins) spells, and have 100 seconds or so to run back/forth from CA.

[Apelila]

I've gone from 66 to 69 on RDM thanks to campaign.

...What? Seeking party's on red mage is like rolling the retard dice, the house is against you.

Anyway, Enspells + /Nin = sex. SCH cant get away with this particular route because of no native enspells, but I mention it so that when you get to the point where you want to snap kittens in half from the 'tag recycler' method you'll know that SCH/RDM = holy shitga. AOE enspells make crap die faaast*, especially since you have WHM leveled and your enhancing magic wouldn't suck.

*Note: i don't know if SCH can AOE enspells in campaign. They can AOE protect so I would assume so, but I never see any of them doing it. But yeah, /RDM and go beat a fort with enspells up since you get both physical and magic damage add's that way.

Edit: clarification

[Lyramion]

I did BST 66 > 72 in campaign just by trying to rank up and hold rank.

A) I don´t like BST - why it was 66? For subbing it to WHM and NIN

B) NIN and WHM are capped with merits n exp

[Acturus]

What the OP needs to remember is that he'll never get skillups while in Campaign, and hell have to go back and work on those eventually.

First I'm a she, but that's neither here nor there ^^ and most of my magic is fairly high up already if not capped except for elemental, which shouldn't be too hard to skill up on fortifications or in besiegeds or doing the odd solo I'm sure ^^

Thanks very much for the tips! These are great

My apologies for the gender confusion. There are no girls on the internet, etc. etc.

If your magic is already well-skilled, then have at it. I just know that I fear doing too much as SCH and having to go back and do just as much work to skill up my magic afterwards. I think my Elemental is like 30 levels low or something at level 60 just because I do a lot of main heal onry + Campaign stuff.

[Spekkio]

well, that's what besieged is for. find an NM everyone else is pummeling and keep nuking it with stone1. since you'll hit for 0, you shouldn't generate much hate while at the same time you keep getting rolls to skill up on exceedingly high lvl mobs. xp comes from campaign, skill comes from besieged.

[Linliel]

Well I went out to Jugner last night as my 37SCH/18WHM to see just how bad it was if I just tried to, well, basically heal people and stay alive. 3-4 waves of mobs and I healed, raised, nuked some, took some damage, and ended up with like 300exp, so I won't be doing that again. I think what I'll end up doing is going somewhere relatively quiet and doing the suggestions above. Fortunately I enjoy knitting so I think I might just set up some macros and whack 'em between knits and purls. I couldn't find the medication guy at Jugner (am I blind? or just wotg noob?) but hopefully other zones will be a little more obvious. What exactly are the bonuses for using these, apart from recovering MP etc.? Should I plant bombs to cause damage? crappywiki didn't note any XP/AP bonus for using them, so there must be something else!

[Bakthi]

You're turning in your tags too soon. 15 songs is the perfect number, that caps the xp you can gain from singing at 300 (20/song for level 61+, multiply by level penalty etc etc). It only takes 3 minutes to sing 15 times with AoE spells, so you're stuck in the 240 cap range for 3 minutes (196 with penalty) or the 160 range if you take 2:59 (120ish with penalty).

Add a timer to your macro such that it is 4 minutes between when you get tags and turn them back in to raise cap to 325 (4 minutes on Holyknight) - Songs alone won't hit this, you'll need to fire 2 buff abilities, but they can be almost anything. Protects, Shells, Spikes spell, w/e.

This is what I've been doing. I'm part of the poor deprived PS2 underclass, at least until I move and can afford some computer parts (both of my main computers are failing anyway, so it's time for surgery). So I use a total of 6 macros for this. 5 of them cast 3 songs each, with the first having a "/clock on" at the start. The last one casts Protect twice, with a "/clock on" at the end.

I'm Holyknight (I've renewed it 3-4 times now), so at 25 SCH/12 BRD I get 130 exp every 4 minutes. I'll have to recalculate the most efficient method once new ranks, theoretically with higher per-minute caps, come out.

This really is boring, though >.> I can still read while doing it, but I imagine it's far better with Windower macros. And unlike normal parties or even pet soloing (because someone might come take your camp), I'm free to wander off whenever; I can leave the volume up and listen for the battle music to start, or not. But I doubt I could even stand doing just this to 37, let alone 75.

[Thistle]

So I use a total of 6 macros for this. 5 of them cast 3 songs each, with the first having a "/clock on" at the start. The last one casts Protect twice, with a "/clock on" at the end.

This really is boring, though >.> I can still read while doing it, but I imagine it's far better with Windower macros.

But I doubt I could even stand doing just this to 37, let alone 75.

If your watch has a stopwatch function, use that instead of /clock. It helps, a little.

Also, doing WHM 30-something to 71 through Campaign only really, really, really made me want to use the Windower macros -- I bet it would have made a ton of difference.

Again, I highly recommend against doing so much leveling through Campaign. It's not fun! It's horrible! I wish I could go back in time and beat myself up for ever having thought of doing this, let alone the countless hours I stood around spamming the same damned spells/songs. What a waste!

I hate partying, I really really really do, but I'd take the worst party on the server over doing this again. For a few levels or a buffer on a low level job it may be fine, but trying to take it to 75 is just not worth it.

[Kyreth]

Well I went out to Jugner last night as my 37SCH/18WHM to see just how bad it was if I just tried to, well, basically heal people and stay alive. 3-4 waves of mobs and I healed, raised, nuked some, took some damage, and ended up with like 300exp, so I won't be doing that again. I think what I'll end up doing is going somewhere relatively quiet and doing the suggestions above. Fortunately I enjoy knitting so I think I might just set up some macros and whack 'em between knits and purls. I couldn't find the medication guy at Jugner (am I blind? or just wotg noob?) but hopefully other zones will be a little more obvious. What exactly are the bonuses for using these, apart from recovering MP etc.? Should I plant bombs to cause damage? crappywiki didn't note any XP/AP bonus for using them, so there must be something else!

You're also under a lower exp cap for being so low level to begin with. No Accession/Manifestation makes you a slow boy since you can't effectively -ga stuff for massive heals/Aspirs/whatevers. Till you hit 40, stick to buffcycling and retagging regularly for better experience points- you'll cap fast. Once you're 40, you get to pull things like Divine Sealed Cure's....on like 20 NPC's and 15 players at once for a few thousand points of recovery in one spell. Hello, capped healing in one shot.

The same person who gives you tags also sells meds and items- but it has to be a battlefield for your home nation, and defending. So if you're not Sandy, that means no meds there even if it's not beastmen controlled. At higher ranks, you've got body and mana boosters for a bigger HP/MP pool to work with. More MP = more spells = more exp, more HP = larger Sublimates = more MP, see first part of sentence.... Stuff like the mines and tubes are fun to play with, but not required for what you have in mind.

Pre 40th level, you're still better off in the "cast a lot of buffs, turn in tags, repeat" school of thought.

[SephYuyX]

While were on the subject.. is it possible to level lvl10 jobs? I guess it would be the same as lvl37, but slower? Whats the best way to get XP? Fortifications? Curing?

[Radec]

While were on the subject.. is it possible to level lvl10 jobs? I guess it would be the same as lvl37, but slower? Whats the best way to get XP? Fortifications? Curing?

/Brd05 or more works.. you will get terrible xp. Like.. 500/hour. Solo to 16 at least.

Edit: Unless you are a mage, you'll probably have just 15 songs and no JA/spell to help hit cap on the 4th minute. You can just turn in tags as soon as you finish the 15th song to improve AN/hour with approximately the same xp/hour.

[Zimbabwe Justice]

Has anyone tried spamming Foe Lullaby/Foe Requiem/the Threnodies? I'm trying it now, will post results...if I get raised as a 32 SCH/BRD in Vunkerl Inlet. -_-


EDIT: I did get raised, and it does work, even if every spell is resisted. I casted all the Threnodies and Foe Lullaby and Requiem on a single target repeadetly. I didn't keep track of how many were casted, but I got 55 exp and the spell casting is much faster.

[Tsukasaz]

The same person who gives you tags also sells meds and items- but it has to be a battlefield for your home nation, and defending. So if you're not Sandy, that means no meds there even if it's not beastmen controlled. At higher ranks, you've got body and mana boosters for a bigger HP/MP pool to work with. More MP = more spells = more exp, more HP = larger Sublimates = more MP, see first part of sentence.... Stuff like the mines and tubes are fun to play with, but not required for what you have in mind.

Pre 40th level, you're still better off in the "cast a lot of buffs, turn in tags, repeat" school of thought.

I don't think Body Boost counts for Sublimation, I used it in Salvage today and at 1644 HP I still only got 268 MP back. I kept on my HP gear the whole time. WHM/SCH. Also does Convert MP>HP gear not count? WHM in my shell says Cassie Earring doesn't count for sublimation either.

[Rocl]

Convert HP->MP gear doesn't count, so I'd imagine Convert MP->HP wouldn't either.

[Linliel]

More of an update on my status: As expected I got BORED AS FUCK pretty quickly spamming spells (I ended up subbing WHM and making a couple of barspell macros because BRD didn't have etudes yet) and turning in tags. Also mobs tended to essentially hang around near the tag guy and that kinda didn't go too well sometimes. And I couldn't really stave off the boredom with the knitting plan because I had to move around to avoid aggro. So I went and duo'd with a friend BLU to 40, so now it's time to work on the RDM sub so I can be vaguely useful. At least I have reraise now :X

[Tsukasaz]

Convert HP->MP gear doesn't count, so I'd imagine Convert MP->HP wouldn't either.

Just checked my gear and I only have one piece of convert HP>MP (lolEtherRing) so oh well. But Body Boost doesn't count as MP>HP so is it like magical HP bonus that doesn't count or something?

[Sepuku]

My advice: solo !
You ll get more exp.
2-3k an hour.
If you cant solo , then get an npc fellow (healer).
Try ep then dc then em etc.
Find out what you can solo fastest!

[Tsukasaz]

My advice: solo !
You ll get more exp.
2-3k an hour.
If you cant solo , then get an npc fellow (healer).
Try ep then dc then em etc.
Find out what you can solo fastest!

Goblin Pets or gtfo