New Notorious Monsters (06/04/2008)

[ronin sparthos]

Unless they are iterations off many of the old NM/HNM/gods/etc with similar items and stuff, I don't see how "different" would this be.

true, between BCNM/ENM/ISNM and popped stuff on Sky/Sea, the whole "new" system doesn't look that new after all.
one major difference could be in how you obtain the triggers : the prerequisites look like you wont be getting them automatically while meriting, much like seals or IS, and i wonder if they planned triggers to be farmable soloing so each LS could pop like 10+ of the same mob one after the other.

Im wondering if these arenas are going to be instanced because if that is not the case i can see the lines of people waiting/cutting eachothers throats in order to get into the BCNM already.

[Naramaska]

Unless they are iterations off many of the old NM/HNM/gods/etc with similar items and stuff, I don't see how "different" would this be.

true, between BCNM/ENM/ISNM and popped stuff on Sky/Sea, the whole "new" system doesn't look that new after all.
one major difference could be in how you obtain the triggers : the prerequisites look like you wont be getting them automatically while meriting, much like seals or IS, and i wonder if they planned triggers to be farmable soloing so each LS could pop like 10+ of the same mob one after the other.

Im wondering if these arenas are going to be instanced because if that is not the case i can see the lines of people waiting/cutting eachothers throats in order to get into the BCNM already.

It'll be a bottleneck at first, yeah...but how often do you see people queued up now for the NPC quest battlefield?

[Kaylia]

WoTG jobs have no nyzul relic, so 18.


And it was a joke.

...yes they do.

Since when? Never saw the sch/dnc weapon?

[ronin sparthos]

Unless they are iterations off many of the old NM/HNM/gods/etc with similar items and stuff, I don't see how "different" would this be.

true, between BCNM/ENM/ISNM and popped stuff on Sky/Sea, the whole "new" system doesn't look that new after all.
one major difference could be in how you obtain the triggers : the prerequisites look like you wont be getting them automatically while meriting, much like seals or IS, and i wonder if they planned triggers to be farmable soloing so each LS could pop like 10+ of the same mob one after the other.

Im wondering if these arenas are going to be instanced because if that is not the case i can see the lines of people waiting/cutting eachothers throats in order to get into the BCNM already.

It'll be a bottleneck at first, yeah...but how often do you see people queued up now for the NPC quest battlefield?

That was an npc battlefield though, not arguably a new form of endgame on par with Sky/Sea without the mission roadblocks.

Judging by Salvage/Assault, it'll probably be instanced though since im sure they figured that many people would enjoy this new form of 'endgame'.

50 pieces of gear... that means 25NQ and 25HQ i bet.

Since when? Never saw the sch/dnc weapon?

Sage's Staff and Main Gauche, added last update.

The DNC weapon looks like a dagger with smaller side-daggers iirc.

[Lordwafik]

WoTG jobs have no nyzul relic, so 18.


And it was a joke.

...yes they do.

Since when? Never saw the sch/dnc weapon?

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Since SE sez

[Chreman]

Shopped.

[Lordender]

i'm gonna laugh if the there is some rediculous repop time on the ??? thats a few hours instead of 15mins.

[Silpha]

And we have popped NMs too!

So what is new about this again?

Unless they are iterations off many of the old NM/HNM/gods/etc with similar items and stuff, I don't see how "different" would this be.




Now on topic: The best S-RPG.... j/k

I see it different in the way that if you're not a moron, you're sure to get your NM triggers points for completing the quests. Where if you have no luck you can spend days with seals autosorting to others in merit pt/silly mobs not dropping many while solo.

[ronin sparthos]

i'm gonna laugh if the there is some rediculous repop time on the ??? thats a few hours instead of 15mins.

The wording screams Ouryu/Bahamut in which you touch a panel and are sent to a battlefield which is little more than a closed off part of the zone.

The real question is when you get there, will it be a 'you touch the panel, but it failed to respond' because 10 other groups are fighting with you to get access to the arena or just an instanced area.

Does anyone know if Ouryu Cometh/Wyrmking Decends are instanced?

[Indalecia]

If someones in Bv1 or Bv2, you have to wait.

[ronin sparthos]

If someones in Bv1 or Bv2, you have to wait.

Ah, figured so since you dont technically 'zone'.

Meh, if those locked islands are where you go directly then odds are that the areas wont be instanced.

[Spira]

It seems like the stone tablets would be the access points for the 3 islands in the zones that they appear in, to be used in a similar fashion to Ouryu / Baha v2 orb battles.

This leads me to believe that it won't be instanced but at the same time, they're probably alliance battle types where the difficulty is scaled upwards and not everyone will be raring to have a go at it everyday. I like the idea of new 'beastmen god-ish' HNMs in instanced zones.. since the beastmen leaders (that also appear in besieged) are not worth killing in the field at all..

Something about these battles lead me to believe that they'll drop some kind of equivalent to dynamis relic attestation to be used with Nyzul relic weapons.. but thats just a hunch

[Eratosthenes]

I have a hunch that these new NMs may drop new abjurations. Einherjar didn't add new abjurations for everybody; and they don't really seem to be that good, anyway. Still, it's kind of unfair that WAR/PLD/DRK got yet another set of abjurations while MNK/SAM/NIN have only had Dryadic since RotZ, which leads me to that armor set the MNK with the staff is wearing. I think that stuff could be a new set of abjuration gear.

[zoobernut]

I have a hunch that these new NMs may drop new abjurations. Einherjar didn't add new abjurations for everybody; and they don't really seem to be that good, anyway. Still, it's kind of unfair that WAR/PLD/DRK got yet another set of abjurations while MNK/SAM/NIN have only had Dryadic since RotZ, which leads me to that armor set the MNK with the staff is wearing. I think that stuff could be a new set of abjuration gear.

If this is true hopefully they add a new abjuration set for Thf and Rng too since they have not seen new abjuration armor in the same amount of time as mnk/sam/nin.

[Kenji]

If this is true hopefully they add a new abjuration set for Thf and Rng too since they have not seen new abjuration armor in the same amount of time as mnk/sam/nin.

Or SMN. Aquarian is just good for getting Taru's killed via aoe. They seriously need a set of SMN/PUP/BST/DRG abjurations, that has a bunch of stuff related to buffing pets. Increased Pet attack and such. Unfortunately, I know if they try, they'll probably botch it.

[Eratosthenes]

I have a hunch that these new NMs may drop new abjurations. Einherjar didn't add new abjurations for everybody; and they don't really seem to be that good, anyway. Still, it's kind of unfair that WAR/PLD/DRK got yet another set of abjurations while MNK/SAM/NIN have only had Dryadic since RotZ, which leads me to that armor set the MNK with the staff is wearing. I think that stuff could be a new set of abjuration gear.

If this is true hopefully they add a new abjuration set for Thf and Rng too since they have not seen new abjuration armor in the same amount of time as mnk/sam/nin.

I certainly hope that they would cover every job that didn't get anything new from Einherjar.

[lordofgodz]

about time the dev team stopped doing cocaine

[Rocl]

about time the dev team stopped doing cocaine

Or started

[LinktheDeme]

I have a hunch that these new NMs may drop new abjurations. Einherjar didn't add new abjurations for everybody; and they don't really seem to be that good, anyway. Still, it's kind of unfair that WAR/PLD/DRK got yet another set of abjurations while MNK/SAM/NIN have only had Dryadic since RotZ, which leads me to that armor set the MNK with the staff is wearing. I think that stuff could be a new set of abjuration gear.

If this is true hopefully they add a new abjuration set for Thf and Rng too since they have not seen new abjuration armor in the same amount of time as mnk/sam/nin.

I certainly hope that they would cover every job that didn't get anything new from Einherjar.

Because those einherjar sets for all those other jobs is fucking amazing right?

[SeraphusRagnarok]

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Want. ;_;

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+19% double attack, ontop of WAR's 10%
29% Double Attack :O