JUNE 9, 2008 - DAT MINING THREAD

[SeraphusRagnarok]

1) Mighty Strikes
2) Brave Grip
3) ???
4) Profit

[Loziel]

I hate to ask, but my Download has 7 hours to go.
Could someone please try and dig out some NPC Text surrounding the Nyzul Weapons?

I dont think we will be seeing further upgrades on the Nyzul Weapons, I just think they will be Loaded with Hidden Stats. They after all have all their final names. Those Assault Memoirs Worry me tho, If I need captain Rank for this im going to puke, It Does not fit well with my delicate Nyzul Isle and Salvage Balancing Act

Many enquiring minds need to know the ordeals that lay ahead. I have a feeling its going to be a big mission to get those items

[Katlan]

Image Alkalurops
DMG:49 Delay:366 HP-10 INT+10 MND+10 CHR+10 Magic Accuracy+20
Lv. 73 THF/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH

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[quote:1pc5u1qq]Image Dorje
DMG:42 Delay:402 MP+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25 MP recovered while healing +10
Lv. 75 THF/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH

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Goodbye Elemental Staves[/quote:1pc5u1qq]

that weapon is so broken, this must be SE's attempt of reviving BLM's [or just allowing us to solo anything we wan't w/greater ease] ;p My only complaint (lol): Hello re-used models!!!

[Max™]

1) +16% Critical hit rate from new body/ramp/merits
2) Brave Grip
3) Raging Rush
4) ???
5) Profit

[Daimen-G]

Hachiryu Haramaki
DEF:52 Accuracy+20 Attack+20 Critical hit rate +5% Enhances "Zanshin" effect Set: Enhances "Store TP" effect
Lv. 75 WAR/MNK/RNG/SAM/NIN

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../4u9pdt3-1.gif

[Tulun]

11's burning Crusade? No, but at least there is some interesting gear, finally. Improvement on grips is nice. Sadly, nothing my DRK would use over double attack I think we may see the end of elemental staves depending on where that weapon drops.. yikes!

Did my eyes deceive me and see no +enmity grip? My NIN would have liked.

[Howard Roark]

Dorje
DMG:42 Delay:402 MP+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25 MP recovered while healing +10
Lv. 75 THF/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH

Wait, what?

i saw that too, it made me question everything i thought i knew about MAB lol, seems fuckin broken lol

also, glad i didnt buy genie pre update, some of this shit is hotttttt

[Veyron]

New WS for all of us /joy

4 hits Polearm
3 hits Great Sword
2 hits Scythe
1 hit Gun
and a lot more

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6892/spearwsik6.jpg

Wait, what? Where'd you find these?

[seiji]

I only see the one GK with 480 delay. That might be interesting.. though I hoped the dmg would be a bit higher.

On the other hand the 480 delay is I think 5-hit set up on current store TP 6-hit set ups.

near right with futsuno onry (1short)

5 hit set with 480delay is STP+ 1.54 (13 base tp/hit=>20.02)
6 hit set with 450 is +45

with the base +2 you need 7more

[Atreides]

could someone be so kind as to edit the big list of stuff to reflect the incorrect/swapped jobs, please? DX

unless it's already been done and i'm lolz2slo

[GImpers]

Dorje
DMG:42 Delay:402 MP+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25 MP recovered while healing +10
Lv. 75 THF/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH

Wait, what?

i saw that too, it made me question everything i thought i knew about MAB lol, seems fuckin broken lol

also, glad i didnt buy genie pre update, some of this shit is hotttttt

Does it really seem that broken? It's another +10 MAB over the current elemental staves. It's inventory +7, but then you lose the accuracy you get from the staves. This new staff is good for nuking on puddings and other lesser mobs, but I don't think this becomes a full time replacement.

[Spira]

the nyzul relics are certain to have hidden stats.. i mean.. blank stats? thats impossible..

the thing is i think its probably listed somewhere in the text what the actual stats are.. perhaps.. or that SE wants us to find it out for ourselves (stupid move imo)...

the assault log thing concerns me.. but i'm already captain so maybe all you need to do is 'record over' all your past assaults done.. i guess they wanted people to be captain b4 getting this...

the alexandrite, storybook and eyepatch.. im almost certain these come from the new non-instanced granite slab BC things they just introduced, with obama mamool, mccain troll and clinton lamia.. probably that...

edit: i think the elemental grips probably have hiddens too.. since the elemental staves had hiddens themselves..
perhaps they each come with element type avatar perp cost reduction by 1 as well? 2 magic accuracy doesnt seem all that worth for 8 slots of eq space

[Yuri-G]

11's burning Crusade? No, but at least there is some interesting gear, finally. Improvement on grips is nice. Sadly, nothing my DRK would use over double attack I think we may see the end of elemental staves depending on where that weapon drops.. yikes!

Did my eyes deceive me and see no +enmity grip? My NIN would have liked.

I'm not so sure - doesn't 20 mag accuracy equate to around 10% actual increase in accuracy? And I'm not 100% sure on this, but I thought elemental staves increased accuracy and damage for black magic, not just one or the other. On the other hand, 25 mab would still be 10% more damage than HQ staves, which could be worth the accuracy loss - I'm a RDM, I wouldn't know.

Whatever, I'm not selling my HQ staves - which I worked my ass off for, I'm a po' boy - until the dust settles. I just hope the dust doesn't settle with the HQs selling for 50k a piece.

[VZX]

I only see the one GK with 480 delay. That might be interesting.. though I hoped the dmg would be a bit higher.

On the other hand the 480 delay is I think 5-hit set up on current store TP 6-hit set ups.

near right with futsuno onry (1short)

5 hit set with 480delay is STP+ 1.54 (13 base tp/hit=>20.02)
6 hit set with 450 is +45

with the base +2 you need 7more

Need to consider how much STP you're WSing with too

Also, you can push Nanatsusaya to have 6-hit build

Am I the only one here thinking twice on those macc and matk stave? they don't look any better than HQ staves

[Casey_]

Ok, i found some interesting entries in the new ability dats.

Under all of the relic ws, there's the name of the job, translated from jp version.. ie, dragonknight = dragoon, knight=paladin.. I don't think they were there before, correct me if i'm wrong.

It seems they havent finished the new relics, wich is why they're blank.. maybe. could just have a ton of hidden effects.

Going in order here.

Under Final Heaven there's Monk and Puppetmaster, wich they both have h2h weapons..
Under Mercy Stroke there's Thief Bard and Dancer
Under Knights of Round there's RedMage Knight and BlueMage
Nothing under Scourge >_>
BeastMaster under Onslaught
Warrior under Metatron Torment
DarkKnight under Catastrophe
DragonKnight under Geirskogul
Ninja under Blade: Metsu
Samurai under Tachi: Kaiten
WhiteMage under Randgrith
BlackMage Summoner and Scholar under Gate of TarTarus

and curiously, nothing under Coronach or Namas arrow, no cor or rng.

[WithinMemoria]

[Ixion Hornbreaker]
Dark Ixion; In stringtables of most Past outdoor areas.

[Lambton Worm Desegmenter]
Lambton Worm; In stringtables of the three instanced past areas.
(Ghoyu's Reverie[Also found Serket?]/Ruhotz Silvermines[Also found Guivre?]/Everbloom Hollow[Also found King Artho?])
The other three I'm not sure if they were there before.

Pop NM List
Vulpangue.
Chamrosh.
Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon.
Iriz Ima.
Lividroot Amooshah.
Iriri Samariri.
Armed Gears.
Gotoh Zha the Redolent.
Dea.
Tinnin.
Brass Borer.
Claret.
Ob.
Anantaboga.
Reacton.
Dextrose.
Nosferatu.
Anvilsoul Bhurborlor.
Achamoth.
Sarameya.
Velionis.
Lil' Apkallu.
Chigre.
Wulgaru.
Zareehkl the Jubilant.
Verdelet.
Mahjlaef the Paintorn.
Experimental Lamia.
Nuhn.
Tyger.
Pandemonium Warden. (Pandemonium Queller?)

[Wolfknight]

I only see the one GK with 480 delay. That might be interesting.. though I hoped the dmg would be a bit higher.

On the other hand the 480 delay is I think 5-hit set up on current store TP 6-hit set ups.

near right with futsuno onry (1short)

5 hit set with 480delay is STP+ 1.54 (13 base tp/hit=>20.02)
6 hit set with 450 is +45

with the base +2 you need 7more

so it's 5 hit with usukane feet and askar body then?

[Auspice]

As a Bastokan RDM I approve of the following combo:

Senior Gold Musketeer's Rod + Legion Scutum

Hello +12 hMP on main+sub alone :D
All these hats/hands/feet with +hMP are turning my head as well!

As soon as I saw that new shield I had to look up if RDMs could use the Reserve Captain's Mace(since I'm SandOrian). We'll see if I actually have room to carry that pair with me after all this other stuff they just added though >_<

[Mojo]

+25 MAB on a weapon is nothing to be excited about. The HQ staff bonus is 15%, not 15 MAB. It only takes 66 total MAB is all that is required for an HQ staff to be equal with 25 MAB. 70+ BLM has a base of 32 MAB, so you'd only need +34 in gear. Any good BLM will exceed this unless there is some hidden effect to the new weapon.

[aurik]

even if blm doesn't exceed that number, hq staves also have 15% accuracy.