Ixion discussion thread

[Acturus]

"unibrow paladin"

I don't even know what that means

I did a search for it, this is what I found:

http://www.markallen.com/grotesque/images/unibrow.jpg

and...

http://cowlander.neobahumut.com/LOL%...nese%20guy.jpg

[liggy 0]

Any words on a repop yet? As far as I know, the one on Ifrit was debunked as a rumour...? Still nothing on Fairy which died about 12hours ago (unless died again while regular camps open.)

anyone who was there when it was up or even capable of killing it (besides sightseeing photographers) would be at regular camps

[Annatar]

Any words on a repop yet? As far as I know, the one on Ifrit was debunked as a rumour...? Still nothing on Fairy which died about 12hours ago (unless died again while regular camps open.)

anyone who was there when it was up or even capable of killing it (besides sightseeing photographers) would be at regular camps

As we saw last night, I'm pretty sure any zerg shell that reads here for the "way to fight Ixion" can take it down, if they have the numbers behind them. Alot of pokesnap people there that may have leaked it to their skyshells etc... who knows

[shieldsofwindurst]

The cape, on the other hand, is pretty solid, at least for other jobs. Best-in-it's-slot INT and MND, with -2 enmity and 20 MP thrown in for good measure. The only downside is that it has -hp to fuck with latent ring procs, but that's not an insurmountable problem, and not everyone uses Sorc Ring in every situation.

Not to derail the derail, but FWIW the back piece is not counted in activating a sorc ring. I know I know, but if you care read the testing done by Suiram in this thread: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewt...p?f=31&t=32485 (2nd page primarily). Short version is that back, r.ring, convert gear, food, & hp+/-% gear do not count towards the proc. Oh & it's convert gear so it wouldn't have affected it anyways.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled flaming.

actually i think you misunderstood the post. the base HP to calculate the target HP from is before back, right ring, convert gear, food, and % gear. as such, if you had 1000 hp before you put on the cape and 980 after you put it on, you'd still be calculating the target from 1000. since the cape has HP>MP, it starts you 20 HP closer to the target making it easier to achieve.

It's possible I misunderstood Zosi's post, but you just said that the HP>MP makes the target easier to achieve-which I agree with-whereas Zosi says that it's a downside, which I do not agree with, because, as you say, it makes it easier to proc. It's also possible that you misunderstood my post, because I do not explicity say that I think it's a good thing, but I should have, because I do. I simply wanted to point out that it is not a downside at all in my mind. In fact, the cape should help me save at least 1 inventory spot for yellow swapping (and maybe a spot thanks to increased mnd for stoneskin) thus I am drooling heavily over it.

The only real downside to the cape is that it destroys the crafting market on prism capes. Not that I really care, 'cause I don't craft, but it's just one more thing crafters can no longer make money on.

[Spekkio]

The cape, on the other hand, is pretty solid, at least for other jobs. Best-in-it's-slot INT and MND, with -2 enmity and 20 MP thrown in for good measure. The only downside is that it has -hp to fuck with latent ring procs, but that's not an insurmountable problem, and not everyone uses Sorc Ring in every situation.

Not to derail the derail, but FWIW the back piece is not counted in activating a sorc ring. I know I know, but if you care read the testing done by Suiram in this thread: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewt...p?f=31&t=32485 (2nd page primarily). Short version is that back, r.ring, convert gear, food, & hp+/-% gear do not count towards the proc. Oh & it's convert gear so it wouldn't have affected it anyways.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled flaming.

actually i think you misunderstood the post. the base HP to calculate the target HP from is before back, right ring, convert gear, food, and % gear. as such, if you had 1000 hp before you put on the cape and 980 after you put it on, you'd still be calculating the target from 1000. since the cape has HP>MP, it starts you 20 HP closer to the target making it easier to achieve.

It's possible I misunderstood Zosi's post, but you just said that the HP>MP makes the target easier to achieve-which I agree with-whereas Zosi says that it's a downside, which I do not agree with, because, as you say, it makes it easier to proc. It's also possible that you misunderstood my post, because I do not explicity say that I think it's a good thing, but I should have, because I do. I simply wanted to point out that it is not a downside at all in my mind. In fact, the cape should help me save at least 1 inventory spot for yellow swapping (and maybe a spot thanks to increased mnd for stoneskin) thus I am drooling heavily over it.

The only real downside to the cape is that it destroys the crafting market on prism capes. Not that I really care, 'cause I don't craft, but it's just one more thing crafters can no longer make money on.

WHOOPSIE! i totally misread your post. my bad. sorry. >< you're right. gonna be handy too when the witch sash replaces our P ropes and we need more HP swap gear to trigger the ring.

[Zosi]

actually i think you misunderstood the post. the base HP to calculate the target HP from is before back, right ring, convert gear, food, and % gear. as such, if you had 1000 hp before you put on the cape and 980 after you put it on, you'd still be calculating the target from 1000. since the cape has HP>MP, it starts you 20 HP closer to the target making it easier to achieve.

I actually hadn't heard about the back/r.ring thing and totally whooshed that Converts gear is safe to use. My bad.

With that fixed, the cape is damn near perfect. Don't think it'll be too much of a threat to the Prism market, it'll be a looooooong time before most LSs will be selling them, much less at prices competitive to standard HQ gear.

[Clarity]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p.../Ixion001b.jpg

I think SE did a really good job with this NM, my favourite SS

djkshfjks; diaf Niki, your favourite pic would be the one of me gettin kicked in the face. ._.

[shieldsofwindurst]

actually i think you misunderstood the post. the base HP to calculate the target HP from is before back, right ring, convert gear, food, and % gear. as such, if you had 1000 hp before you put on the cape and 980 after you put it on, you'd still be calculating the target from 1000. since the cape has HP>MP, it starts you 20 HP closer to the target making it easier to achieve.

I actually hadn't heard about the back/r.ring thing and totally whooshed that Converts gear is safe to use. My bad.

With that fixed, the cape is damn near perfect. Don't think it'll be too much of a threat to the Prism market, it'll be a looooooong time before most LSs will be selling them, much less at prices competitive to standard HQ gear.

Agreed, that's the cape I'd make if I was a blm-biased developer. I'm actually surprised that it apparently takes so little effort to obtain-compare that to the pain required to get the einherjar cape (less now for sure, but still far more effort required), which is comparable on INT only and has several drawbacks.

Your point about the prism cape market is also true, though let's be realistic-people are going to farm the hell out of Ixion, and at a daily pop of a minimum of 12 hours, they're probably going to cap out on capes in less than a month, especially when it seems to be at least a 50% drop (if not better, based on all the screenshots). I'd say that the capes will start flooding the market and will be down in the 1-2 mil range (if not less) in no more than 6 months. That might seem like a while, but your average player would most likely happily wait 6 months to buy the "best" item for a slot, such as macha's gear, on the open market if that was an option, instead of buying a marked up HQ now that's inferior.

[MisutoVapira]

Stay on topic, amirite?

Did we get a total HP count? Even if it's inaccurate from the Damsel Memento, It'd be nice to get a gauge on how much HP this beast has.
Someone parsed it, right? =p

[Toshiko]

stuff

too bad rdm cant wear ixion cape, wth was square thinking ... have to keep prism for rdm or get einherjar cape. more inventory wasted, hurray

[shieldsofwindurst]

stuff

too bad rdm cant wear ixion cape, wth was square thinking ... have to keep prism for rdm or get einherjar cape. more inventory wasted, hurray

Can't argue that, rdm got shafted. Now somebody rerail this topic with more kills or info.

[Yusuka]

Maxing magic accuracy will be what I try next. I've tried insane amounts of CHR and wind skill. I had cap wind 288 (Gjall, af2+1 hands) before this latest update (those nwe boots) HNM still resist most fo the time. +2 CHR won't do shit for me. +2 magic accuracy stacked with omega ring, Ixion Cloak, etc. might lend a hand to sticking things like elegy more often.

The bottom line is you lost the right to bash anyone or anything for reasons of marginal increases when you ignore it when it applies to yourself. It's hypocritical and your overtly blatant pseudo-elitism is not as insulting as it is hilarious in how self-defeating it is.

To summarize: Shut the fuck up and more importantly stop pointing fingers until you stop gimping yourself, chump. A relic doesn't suddenly give you carte blanche to say what the fuck you please and act like it doesnt apply to yourself.

Wut? >_> Because I don't have (1) piece of gear I must be gimp? Who am I pointing fingers at? I simply say I've capped everything skill wise and stat. No difference in ability to land debuffs. Why get a piece of gear that will do nothing for me?

I heard you have no merits on BRD, confirm/deny?

[MisutoVapira]

...Take loldrama to PM's?

Anyone HQ the Hermes Sandals yet? Any reports?

[Xavier]

Enough.

On topic or get a room.

[THEPANDA]

Looks like some Jealous McGrealous up in this...

[Dakota]

Still no pop on Lakshmi. Been probably 14 hours.

[Dammerung]

Finally down on Fenrir.. we're like in last place?lol

Dagger/Cape/Mats
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/521/filevg2.jpg

[Jaxzer]

Ixion is up again on Odin, has not been 24hrs.

[Niki]

Same on Phoenix, fighting right now #2

[Synbios]

Possible 21-24?