New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[Virtuous Saint]

So the ??? wasn't even in Aydeewa ? <.< wow ..hope they added it in.

this

[Tyche]

It was there last night, some guy even screencapped it i think, Rocl said it wasn't there right after the patch was released, added in sometime prior to last night and after the patch.

[tsola]

Still haven't gotten a POL message. Has anyone here had an item restored before know how long it takes? My GM said that they had submitted a request for item restoration on my behalf as soon as SE started the maintenance, but when I asked how long does it usually take, he replied that he had no idea.

Called a new GM now to see if I can get update/some kind of time frame..

[Ramsey]

A+ Thread. Would trade again.

Next time, bring a Soultrapper. A Soul Plate from ATMN Test would definitely be a keeper.

Watch out having a Missing N; err ATMN Test , might corrupt your save file! \:D/

In all seriousness though, although this information is probably completely unnecessary since we're all awaiting news on the Warden, I thought I'd share some quick tidbits on some recent ZNM fights, things I don't think I saw mentioned when I was reading through the earlier pages.

We recently went after Zareekhl the Jubilant, we only had 7 and we wiped because our healer got 1 shotted with an unlucky jump when he went into rage mode. One thing I noticed that wasn't mentioned as far as I can tell though is that when Lamia No.19 spawns due to a death, she just sits there and stares in whatever direction that dead player was. As long as everyone runs away from her she won't aggro and will eventually despawn. He should be pretty easy as long as you bring 2 tanks or 2 healers. The hate bouncing can be dangerous if one goes down. Though we did find fighting him at the bottom of the pit with mages at the top to be effective.

And a note for anyone soloing Lil' Appkalu, or using a kite strategy in general; G-8 works great but be careful on the west side of the central island or bridge, whenever the Soulflayer on the larger island gets close he can aggro even across the water to magic, the same can be said of the Draugar on the east side with low HP. You can also kite him all the way west over the bridge amongst the nippers for an extension to the kite area. His TP is easy to waste when he comes back after yawning, just let him get close enough to start the weaponskill then run back a few paces.

Just thought I'd share those random tidbits for anyone looking to low man either who hasn't already developed their own strat.

Back to waiting with baited breath.

[tsola]

Bah, new GM told me that they're working on restoring it still, and can't give me any kind of time frame at all, or an update on how they're progressing.

Guess I'll call again in a few hours if I still don't get a message ; ;.

[Severance]

Atnm Test is a test. If you pass the test, you get to fight Pandemonium.

Unfortunately, the test is don't trade the key to that ???.

Hearty lol's, sir.

[Katlan]

Bah, new GM told me that they're working on restoring it still, and can't give me any kind of time frame at all, or an update on how they're progressing.

Guess I'll call again in a few hours if I still don't get a message ; ;.

You will get a PoL message when the item is ready, w/will tell you to contact a SGM to get your item back. Spamming the GM's about your item restoration isn't gonna help you get it any faster. You will just be that annoying child asking their parents "are we there yet?" over and over again until they tell u to shut up or threaten to punish you if you ask again.

I'm glad your getting the item back, will be nice if you get it back in time to still be the first LS to pop pande (since I know that's what you were shooting for). And I don't think replicating a pop item is any difficult task, but I'm also assuming that they are first waiting on an official "we (SE) messed up" report before doing so. So you might be waiting a while before you get the item back [if you do in fact get another].

[Zekyr]

It was there last night, some guy even screencapped it i think, Rocl said it wasn't there right after the patch was released, added in sometime prior to last night and after the patch.

I posted the SS of it top of page 56. Still there, or was as of a few hours ago.

[Kudosai]

while i still think what they did was partly their own fault/foolery because someone actually pointed out a pop spot in Aydeewa somewhere around page 50++, Rocl is right.. there was never any "You sense an ominous presense" ??? spot in Aydeewa prior to the update where they fixed footwork and einherjar poins and campaign ops.. it was definitely ninja-ed..

i'm pretty sure of it too cos I was another one of those people who went down to Aydeewa to search for a ???. And all of them were 'You find nothing out of the ordinary here'..

this might go to explain why the ??? in wajaom was actually there and still was until today. They probably hadn't finished coding the stuff for Pandemonium Warden at the time of the update.. hence the debug wasn't taken out and the original wasnt put in.. and then when they ninja-ed it in, they forgot to remove the debug...

We had already found that ??? a good thirty minutes before he went to look for it.
And, oh, same message.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I'm really glad that you guys are getting your key back. This is totally a feelgood ending (well until you wipe due to pandemonium throwing something impossibly hard at you that was totally unexpected.)

[Wizerd]

I'm really glad that you guys are getting your key back. This is totally a feelgood ending (well until you wipe due to pandemonium throwing something impossibly hard at you that was totally unexpected.)

That's what zombie tactics & holding are for and why good endgame players are supposed to keep maxed buffers.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I'm really glad that you guys are getting your key back. This is totally a feelgood ending (well until you wipe due to pandemonium throwing something impossibly hard at you that was totally unexpected.)

That's what zombie tactics & holding are for and why good endgame players are supposed to keep maxed buffers.

We have no idea whats going to go on here... a second copy? All those lamps? It could be truly insane. It is possible that it wont be figured out on the first pop.

[tsola]

You will get a PoL message when the item is ready, w/will tell you to contact a SGM to get your item back. Spamming the GM's about your item restoration isn't gonna help you get it any faster. You will just be that annoying child asking their parents "are we there yet?" over and over again until they tell u to shut up or threaten to punish you if you ask again.

Oh yeah, I totally agree about the annoying child analogy; I was even thinking that as I placed my second call. However, it's equally frustrating when I ask them on average how long does it take to restore an item for a player and their response is "I don't know". I was hoping that a new GM would be able to answer that at least.

[Maxxthepenguin]

You will get a PoL message when the item is ready, w/will tell you to contact a SGM to get your item back. Spamming the GM's about your item restoration isn't gonna help you get it any faster. You will just be that annoying child asking their parents "are we there yet?" over and over again until they tell u to shut up or threaten to punish you if you ask again.

Oh yeah, I totally agree about the annoying child analogy; I was even thinking that as I placed my second call. However, it's equally frustrating when I ask them on average how long does it take to restore an item for a player and their response is "I don't know". I was hoping that a new GM would be able to answer that at least.

They don't have fuck ups like this very often; I doubt there's an accurate average. They said up to a week, obviously it will be sooner than that, chill.

[Wizerd]

I'm really glad that you guys are getting your key back. This is totally a feelgood ending (well until you wipe due to pandemonium throwing something impossibly hard at you that was totally unexpected.)

That's what zombie tactics & holding are for and why good endgame players are supposed to keep maxed buffers.

We have no idea whats going to go on here... a second copy? All those lamps? It could be truly insane. It is possible that it wont be figured out on the first pop.

That's my point. Maxed buffers and zombie tactics to hold the mob so it doesn't depop - then you get up and try again. And again. But if it's anything like the fucking Vulpangue Puk, a second try of the same pop will be 10x worse.

[Spira]

while i still think what they did was partly their own fault/foolery because someone actually pointed out a pop spot in Aydeewa somewhere around page 50++, Rocl is right.. there was never any "You sense an ominous presense" ??? spot in Aydeewa prior to the update where they fixed footwork and einherjar poins and campaign ops.. it was definitely ninja-ed..

i'm pretty sure of it too cos I was another one of those people who went down to Aydeewa to search for a ???. And all of them were 'You find nothing out of the ordinary here'..

this might go to explain why the ??? in wajaom was actually there and still was until today. They probably hadn't finished coding the stuff for Pandemonium Warden at the time of the update.. hence the debug wasn't taken out and the original wasnt put in.. and then when they ninja-ed it in, they forgot to remove the debug...

We had already found that ??? a good thirty minutes before he went to look for it.
And, oh, same message.

I know.. thats what i said
the point i was making was that if you checked say the "whats left of Aht Urhgan" thread and then didnt read this thread EVER, you'd come to the assumption that there was no such ??? in Aydeewa because at the time of the initial check, it wasn't in the game yet. It was ninja-ed in only in the most recent update.

[Mulligan]

And to think, if this thread http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewt...hp?f=2&t=34832 wasn't locked, all these shenanigans might have been avoided.

[tsola]

They don't have fuck ups like this very often; I doubt there's an accurate average. They said up to a week, obviously it will be sooner than that, chill.

I think you misunderstood one of my earlier posts; the SGM I got yesterday said it would take a week for the developers/testers to see if the ??? was a bug in the first place, and after that I should contact a GM again to ask for a restoration.

I was fairly surprised to wake up this morning and find that they had already removed it.

[UnknownKiller]

And to think, if this thread http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewt...hp?f=2&t=34832 wasn't locked, all these shenanigans might have been avoided.

Wow, who is ready to eat some crow for making fun of the person for posting that thread. LMAO.

[mat]

is Ehun the only person to have the only kill on a mob ever?

ATNM should've dropped this to him:

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