New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[Seeko]

4 lamps left atm. being a real bitch of a fight

[oldoldman]

The Change from Dvergr to chariot at the very start of the fight could just be SEs way of saying "Fuck you" to .DAT miners.

How's that a fuck you in any way ? They still found pandy.

Because of the pages of Dverger speculation. At the very least it would be a funny joke.

[Baelwulf]

Could do 2 waves of each set.

8 8 4 4 2 2 1 1 sort of thing. That adds up to 30.

[Selendile]

5 lamps dead now

[tsola]

3 gears left.

Were abusing the teleport>draw-in>leave room>kite thing.

[Flight_93]

They still found pandy.

Yet noone found Atnm.. irony is ironic.

[shieldsofwindurst]

The Change from Dvergr to chariot at the very start of the fight could just be SEs way of saying "Fuck you" to .DAT miners.

How's that a fuck you in any way ? They still found pandy.

For what it's worth, this patch is the first time in a long time you couldn't just dat mine and know exactly how everything works in the first 30 minutes of the update, other than the usual "who drops what" grind. I'd consider forcing the players to get out there and try stuff, similar to zhayolm salvage quirks, to be a win.

[Cyn]

Might be worth holding the last lamp and damaging PW a bit, just in case he does something extremely nasty after the last lamp is dead.

[Kaylia]

The Change from Dvergr to chariot at the very start of the fight could just be SEs way of saying "Fuck you" to .DAT miners.

How's that a fuck you in any way ? They still found pandy.

For what it's worth, this patch is the first time in a long time you couldn't just dat mine and know exactly how everything works in the first 30 minutes of the update, other than the usual "who drops what" grind. I'd consider forcing the players to get out there and try stuff, similar to zhayolm salvage quirks, to be a win.

Yeah, I remember people knowing exactly how you would pop AV right from the start? Not to mention Zhayolm Remnant frog or Qiqirn TH. Open the dat, and problem solved!

[Sagacious Sundi]

I FUCKING KNEW IT! FUCKING GEARS!!!

Also, I'm guessing the Pandemonium Lamps will be gears or dark elementals, in addition to the bomb/cluster idea people have.

I also didn't post it, but I was expecting a transforming chariot as a ZNM (that summoned gears, too; God I should've posted it), since there's no chariot or rampart ZNM. Unfortunately, it isn't called Optimus Chariot, Chariot Prime, or Charioticon.
Also, do we know for a fact that the dvergr and chariot are different .dats? Most enemy automatons and summoned elementals can have multiple models for a single .dat. EDIT: Come to think of it, that might not be true because there's something weird about elementals. In Model/AltanaViewer only the earth ele works.

As for the 8>7>6>5>4 idea, maybe on the first 4 waves it becomes a different type of chariot, then the final wave it becomes a rampart that summons the other Panda Warden (as the red dvergr).

[Drakka]

I feel really sorry for the Colibri's and Puddings on Levi after you guys finish this fight.

[Kudosai]

uploading a good 25 minutes or so of sac-ing shenanigans to google video.

[Seeko]

I feel really sorry for the Colibri's and Puddings on Levi after you guys finish this fight.

at least 1 person has gone from 75 w/buffer to 74 w/ 15k buffer >.> (so far)

[GanondorfLeviathan]

Kiting with a PLD (anyone that can hold hate and kite) while picking off gears one by one seems to be working, since hate is shared for the most part. The random aoe when they do grow a brain and come after the person that's hitting them sucks though...

[Selendile]

Two lamps left..

[Kudosai]

2 gears left.

[Kenji]

Come on, guys! Where's the MPK'ing? The stealing? If it turns yellow, it's fair game, right?

And I'm in the camp of "You kill the last gear, and something bad happens." Either more gears, or he transforms and does bad stuff.

[Robyn]

We're going to try holding the last one and get to work on the big boy.

[Selendile]

This is mostly just wishful thinking but heres an idea....

When he's first spawned he is a red Dverger.....then transforms...

Maybe he transforms into something random and thats it, so like...everytime he is spawned on different occasions he can transform into 1 of like 4 diff things, and have adds accordingly...once adds die the hard part is over ^^


I'm hoping .... ; ;

[lotmorning]

Come on, guys! Where's the MPK'ing? The stealing? If it turns yellow, it's fair game, right?

And I'm in the camp of "You kill the last gear, and something bad happens." Either more gears, or he transforms and does bad stuff.

thats what i'm thinking. you kill hte last gear they all respawn. going to have to keep 1 alive at all times probably