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  1. #2581
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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche
    Was the last gear killed before killing PW, I haven't seen anyone say, and i fucking typed this 10 minutes ago and it's just now posting!
    That's what I'm thinking as well as several others: Maybe if killing all Gears forces PW back into Dvergr form and thus makes it defeatable.

    If that's the case, then more than likely it may be another Ix'DRK.

    Several pages back, someone mentioned 30 Gears total in the DAT files. What if similar to Ix'DRK style, that it either increases or decreases the number of Gears popped in each successive re-pop. Once PW has popped a total of 30 Gears, then it is in its final form.

    All I have to say is: Welcome the new "mini Absolute Virtue."

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    No, no title.
    And the last Gear was still alive when we took it to 0%.

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Zekyr
    Are lamps still in that new mob type? And how many of them are there?

    This is important (maybe), because if they're different mobs and there are more of them (meaning a difference from last time) then you are making progress along killing him, and he isn't in a loop. If the pattern follows, he will respawn again with 12 pets next time, and that will be all of the lamps in the DATs.

    Of course, maybe its all just a result of not killing all the gears last time, who knows.
    They were added with Dvergr long time ago I thought. They are the little skull floating next to them.

  4. #2584
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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    What happened to the last remaining gear when the Pandemonium Chariot was killed?

  5. #2585
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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Onorgul
    What happened to the last remaining gear when the Pandemonium Chariot was killed?
    At 0% the last remaining Gear was still up as posted by someone in the previous page.

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    He means after it died.

    Also, to clarify: Is PW still in BCC mode or did it change to another Chariot?

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    So, what's the plan now that it's up at 100% with new gears?

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    He means after it died.

    Also, to clarify: Is PW still in BCC mode or did it change to another Chariot?
    If it switched to another chariot I would presume that there would still be hope, but I must say if it is back to BCC then that will be a little discouraging.

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    We are going to kill all gears this time. Hopefully won't take as long as last.

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Quote Originally Posted by Zekyr
    Are lamps still in that new mob type? And how many of them are there?

    This is important (maybe), because if they're different mobs and there are more of them (meaning a difference from last time) then you are making progress along killing him, and he isn't in a loop. If the pattern follows, he will respawn again with 12 pets next time, and that will be all of the lamps in the DATs.

    Of course, maybe its all just a result of not killing all the gears last time, who knows.
    They were added with Dvergr long time ago I thought. They are the little skull floating next to them.
    I thought they might have been, but I couldn't tell and I've never done the FL assault so no firsthand experience with how they look.

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafike
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    He means after it died.

    Also, to clarify: Is PW still in BCC mode or did it change to another Chariot?
    If it switched to another chariot I would presume that there would still be hope, but I must say if it is back to BCC then that will be a little discouraging.
    If it's still in BCC mode it more than likely means they should've killed the gear before killing PW.

  12. #2592
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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    I thought they might have been, but I couldn't tell and I've never done the FL assault so no firsthand experience with how they look.
    AFAIK, the little skulls in the FL Assault are part of the Dverger model, and never existed as independent mobs (unless they pop up in Einherjar?). The only SS posted of the original Dverger form of PW doesn't show the lamps, so I wasn't sure if they started as the skulls or not. Did the skull-form lamps do anything in the way of TP moves, or did they morph to gears too quickly?

  13. #2593
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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Kind of a lull here in new posts... is that LS retrying or stopping?

    EDIT: Completely missed Tsola's post. Good luck on round 2!

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    The Dvergyr skulls were never an independent mob until now. None in FL Assaults, none in Einherjar. They were simply part of the Dvergyr model (specifically what it used to attack you with)

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Epical
    Kind of a lull here in new posts... is that LS retrying or stopping?
    Judging by tsolas post I believe they are continuing/retrying (whatever the case may be.)

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Yes we are retrying.

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Epical
    Kind of a lull here in new posts... is that LS retrying or stopping?

    EDIT: Completely missed Tsola's post. Good luck on round 2!
    That and 50% of the posts were spammed things that have been threatened to be bannable now, so we're actually getting semi-constant posts on topic now without the random filler increasing the page count three times as fast.

    How long was it to kill the first (7) gears from pop last time? Around 90 mins?

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Are you guys planning to kill all 10 gears right out of the chute, or holding the last one til around 10%ish and finish off with a zerg?

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    Quote Originally Posted by Aselin
    All I have to say is: Welcome the new "mini Absolute Virtue."
    This isn't a mini-AV. It clearly has a pattern and a way to beat it.. AV is a mob that has infinite 2hrs and it doesnt matter if you get it to 2% cause it can bene back to full. This is like a lot of SE's HNM's in that it has a pattern it has to progress through before it is killable. Granted there is prolly a better way to kill it rather than zerging each lamp and then dieing afterwards. but this is the first attempt & if they kill it before giving up then SE failed to deliver

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    Re: New ToAU NMs + Pandemonium found then lost, page55+

    I don't know what's happening anymore lol. I'm just very tired and discouraged at the moment. Our main alliance broke, so I don't even know who's fighting it anymore. Poor Tsola has lost so much exp. If we kill all the lamps and it revives itself again, fuck SE.

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