New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[Tarnak]

I was thinking with 4 people this can make fast NM's


3 people choose the 3 corresponding tier1 ZNMs in their group

work up to tier3 pops on those sets.

on Tier 3 give the ra/ex drops to member 4 so they have all 3

they still have all points so voila pop hnm

[Callisto]

I was under the impression that the seal key item was consumed when you purchased the higher tier trigs, is that incorrect?

Yes he takes your seal once you get a higher tier pop item.

Ok, so in Spekkio's case he could buy a tier 2 pop item, then lot the next apkallu egg, and turn it in for another seal, could stockpile a few tier 2 items until you get those Numerist boots to drop.

[Tidane]

Any ideas on Reacton? A friend and I ran around Halvung for a few hours and only found the Dextrose ??? (and I assumed all of the ???'s said something different, but we saw multiple sickly-sweet or whatever ones in different places). I didn't check map 3 (on the way to the Astral Candescence BC), between the Operating Levers on map 1, or the Gurfurlur spawn place on map 2. Assuming my friend wasn't mistaken, I saw the one at (J-6), which is for Dextrose and she saw one somewhere else (I didn't get a position on that). Could it be possible that the Dextrose's ??? text got put into Reacton's?

I'll try to see if she remembers where the other sickly-sweet ones were if no one else has any idea (not logged in right now and I really don't feel like fucking around with those TS trolls without an idea of where I'm headed).

[Redflame]

We just fought Iriri Samariri. He pops 4x wartkins (small frogs) from time to time which seem to depop after 30 seconds. Sometimes he gets the ability to instant cast spells, not sure if that a normal frog ability. We didn't know how to deal with charmga with the limited space and wiped at 19% ; ; .. seems he uses that at low HP only

The instacast thingy is a normal Frog NM move, we see it in Nyzul often enough(Providence I think it's called). What do the baby frogs do, just melee?

Sounds like a new move, Providence just gives frogs access to high tier spells like death afaik.

he doesn't use any move before starting casting instantly, and no 2hr animation.

the "???" is at F-7 accessed from the west part only. takes 5 minutes to reach from mamool ja staging point. there is a free room near the "???" but need to clear 3 frogs poping as well as some sahagins.

the wartkins just melee hitting hume DRK for ~110 dmg. the NM hit me as taru RDM for ~280 and ~480 critical.

Slow , paralyze, bind, stun and gravity land ok, but couldn't land poison

edit : has additional effect : poison

[Callisto]

We just fought Iriri Samariri. He pops 4x wartkins (small frogs) from time to time which seem to depop after 30 seconds. Sometimes he gets the ability to instant cast spells, not sure if that a normal frog ability. We didn't know how to deal with charmga with the limited space and wiped at 19% ; ; .. seems he uses that at low HP only

The instacast thingy is a normal Frog NM move, we see it in Nyzul often enough(Providence I think it's called). What do the baby frogs do, just melee?

Sounds like a new move, Providence just gives frogs access to high tier spells like death afaik.

he doesn't use any move before starting casting instantly, and no 2hr animation.

the "???" is at F-7 accessed from the west part only. takes 5 minutes to reach from mamool ja staging point. there is a free room near the "???" but need to clear 3 frogs poping as well as some sahagins.

the wartkins just melee hitting hume DRK for ~110 dmg. the NM hit me as taru RDM for ~280 and ~480 criticals.

Slow , paralyze, bind and gravity land ok, but couldn't land poison

Sounds rough, lol. Wondering if that's what drops the Witch Sash

Did you guys attempt to kill the Wartkins, any notice of HP/squishiness?

[Myrrial]

It was Harlequin frame again. I honestly don't believe it can change frame.

I can disprove this; will have pictures up soon. My group just engaged it and it very quickly turned Spiritreaver on us. We're about to pop the Puk though so I'mma need a few minutes before screenshots get posted.

[Priran]

Could it be possible that the Dextrose's ??? text got put into Reacton's?

The ??? behind the tower in the north of Wajaom Woodlands that I thought was Vulpangue's pop and the text for the ??? that is his actual pop have identical text.

So my guess is that SE screwed up some of the ???s, and Reacton probably pops from one of the superfluous Dextrose pops you found.

[Bakthi]

I wonder if Requiem lands on the frog (and colibri) NMs. It's a great safety net for charmga in Zhayolm Remnants, because you can spam it every time the recast is up to overwrite itself, and it has good duration and sticks easily. A lot of things in the game resist it, though.

[Tidane]

So my guess is that SE screwed up some of the ???s, and Reacton probably pops from one of the superfluous Dextrose pops you found.

I'll probably head over after Nyzul tonight to see if we can pop it, then. Maybe I'll try to find someone who needs Dextrose too, so (if it doesn't pop the Bomb) we can see if it is another Dextrose pop or a mis-labeled pop for another monster (Khromasoul?). I really don't think there would be two pop points for one NM, given the short repop time of the ??? and the fact that none of the others have more than one (?).

[Eanae]

Which entrance is Chigre found through? E-8 doesn't help when there's multiple maps.

[Tarnak]

Wajoam G-7 entrance

[Myrrial]

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...l/ObReaver.jpg

Here is our most recent Ob. We popped it intending to kite it around and nuke/DoT it to death. Popped it, gravity, enfeebles, and ran into the south room intending to take it out into the big open area where you enter Bhaflau Remnants to kite there.

By the time Ob emerged into the second room he was a Spiritreaver instead of his normal Harlequin self. He was fairly retarded with his magic selections (although he did cast quickly). He never used a ga3 so we were able to just turn around and zerg him down. His physical defenses took a major hit once he swapped frames. The fight was infinitely easier than my failed attempt yesterday.

Edit: Just to be clear. This proves the report on Alla to be true. Ob -can- swap between frames. I'd assume he can just as easily decide to go Valoredge or whatever if he wanted.

[Rydir]

Sorry if this has been asked and i missed it.

People who have been taking Soul Plates of mobs to get Zeni. What mobs have you gotten the best Zeni from?

[Tarnak]

The ones that are higher levels and low hitpoints.

[Doc]

Has anyone tried Gotah Zha the Remolent yet?

[Neosutra]

The ones that are higher levels and low hitpoints.

I cant get more than 60 zeni ever Q.Q. I fail.

[Eanae]

The ones that are higher levels and low hitpoints.

I cant get more than 60 zeni ever Q.Q. I fail.

Got 98 a piece from Wamoura :O

[Priran]

Sorry if this has been asked and i missed it.

People who have been taking Soul Plates of mobs to get Zeni. What mobs have you gotten the best Zeni from?

1.Find a mob of the family the painter is interested in, of as high a level as possible.
2.Melee it down to 1% and sleep it.
3.Look the mob in the face, lock on to it and walk as close as you can, then take a step back.
4.Take pictures.

Doing this I've gotten up to 70 Zeni from lv.65 mobs, with a variance of a couple zeni depending on exactly how much HP the mob has left (i.e. 5 and 35 HP both registering as 1% ).

Other than that, there doesn't seem to be much to the whole farming zeni part. Recommended fauna are a waste of time, by the way.

[Doc]

Recommended fauna are a waste of time, by the way.

How bad is the zeni? Did you get the mob down to a low %?

[Priran]

Recommended fauna are a waste of time, by the way.

How bad is the zeni? Did you get the mob down to a low %?

A group in my LS did the Orobon ISNM and said the plates were a waste of IS, so take that as you will. Even among the reports in this thread about people going after recommended fauna, the plates weren't worth significantly more than plates of normal mobs.