New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[bombard]

theres still quite a number...
I'm most curious where the 7 pointed (7 bladed) great katana is found..

i've seen it so often in stories that use japanese fables...

edit: looks like this.. http://www.geocities.com/guadosalam/nana.JPG
if bandwidth holds out

nope, it didn't. lol

nice work on the chart in your sig btw ... it's kinda awesome. Would you have any objections of me using it in our linkshell forums, non doctored and credit to you and what not?

also , a few suggestions on it, maybe brackets or arrows or something , like a flow chart, so it's more easily readable by people who have no idea wtf this system is? (lol i understand it fine, but we all have our short bus ppl)


once again, awesome job on the chart.

[Klein]

Can you pups make your own thread about Ob? Cause.....

Excuse me? Ob is a NM added to this system just like the others, and if everyone else can discuss NMs they feel are important, we can as well. Ob is one of the most complex (and powerful if fought incorrectly) Tier I NMs. You go fight Ob with no PUP in your party and enjoy the Magic Mortar spam that ensues, and then you'll be glad we PUPs found out his secrets.

Honestly.. takes some nerve to try and say we shouldnt be in this thread because we want to ensure our fellow PUP players don't get assraped trying t oget their new attachments.

[Spira]

go ahead.. im still updating it with new drops kinda regularly tho..

i'll try to figure out how to add arrows to them too. I realise they done show the tier structure that well too but still working on it visually

[Kaslo]

Can you pups make your own thread about Ob? Cause.....

Excuse me? Ob is a NM added to this system just like the others, and if everyone else can discuss NMs they feel are important, we can as well. Ob is one of the most complex (and powerful if fought incorrectly) Tier I NMs. You go fight Ob with no PUP in your party and enjoy the Magic Mortar spam that ensues, and then you'll be glad we PUPs found out his secrets.

Honestly.. takes some nerve to try and say we shouldnt be in this thread because we want to ensure our fellow PUP players don't get assraped trying t oget their new attachments.

I think he meant the fanfic discussion.

[Klein]

There was entire two posts between two people related to that :/ Off subject, i admit, but it's not like they disrupted the entire thread with it.

[bombard]

thank you spira! I'll check back now and then and see if there are any improvements, additions and what not. We're planning on doing some tier3's and 4's so i'll post here if they drops stuff not listed yet.

Klein, don't let them get you all butthurt. I don't know the first thing about PUP, and am much happier not knowing :D Seems a little too, well, complex of a system for me. Seems like an awesome job however and I'm thinking of actually reading up on PUP and seeing how they work, roles, etc. Only been in a brief party with a lvl 70 PUP once -- but i've heard good things about them :D [SE, please raise pup's base h2h skill, ty]. Puppets scare me though, so don't get too close with that little chuky doll

Kaslo, the good thing about pup's IS their love of the job and great deal of work they put into it. But you know me, I'd rather manaburn something and go to bed earlier that night :D

[Yutuyu]

7-Bladed Great Katana

Oh god it's cactus blade.

[Kaslo]

thank you spira! I'll check back now and then and see if there are any improvements, additions and what not. We're planning on doing some tier3's and 4's so i'll post here if they drops stuff not listed yet.

Klein, don't let them get you all butthurt. I don't know the first thing about PUP, and am much happier not knowing :D Seems a little too, well, complex of a system for me. Seems like an awesome job however and I'm thinking of actually reading up on PUP and seeing how they work, roles, etc. Only been in a brief party with a lvl 70 PUP once -- but i've heard good things about them :D [SE, please raise pup's base h2h skill, ty]. Puppets scare me though, so don't get too close with that little chuky doll

Kaslo, the good thing about pup's IS their love of the job and great deal of work they put into it. But you know me, I'd rather manaburn something and go to bed earlier that night :D

lol I didn't have the problem someone else did

[Clyne]

Thats a badass looking sword. You have a pic. yet with anyone wearing it?

New pic please, that one is invalid. WAR/DRK/PLD cannot wear Cobra set.

[Klein]

He's using altana viewer.. he can put them in any set he wants.

[Snapples]

hi just giving heads up on difficulty,
brass borer (zhayolm
&
lil'apkallu (arapago
*
me and another bst duo these two. we had a whm with us but she didnt do anything.
so bst/nin x2, whm semi trio, more of a duo 2x bst.
i got pics, will add them in a hr or 2.
brass dropped only trigger, lil dropped kick feet+trigger.

Did the pets get posted for this? Would love to know. Thanks.

Just popped Chigre as PLD BLU SMN RDM WHM BRD, and it was pretty smooth, except for his low hate threshold. Took about 5-10 minutes, and dropped a Blood Ring along with his Ra/Ex. Seemed very sensitive to para/elegy etc.

just tried this with bst/nin and bst/whm duo. there are 2 nippers that pop to the north of where apkallu pops, and he hits like such a pansy that you can easily keep those 2 crabs alive while alternating in carries as needed. extremely easy duo.

[Spira]

was this on your first apkallu NM? the increased apkallu hate changes things, it seems.

[Snapples]

no i had done it a few times before on rdm

[Clyne]

He's using altana viewer.. he can put them in any set he wants.

I know...doesn't mean I wouldn't rather see a legitimate setup.

After 34 pages of reading pretty much every post, still trying to figure out what the most worthwhile NM to target is. Can anyone confirm maybe the best path to Cerb given a 12 man setup something along the lines of: PLD, NIN, BLMx3, SMN, RNG, DRK, BRD, COR, RDM...and BLU maybe? We're sorely lacking in WHM. I'm thinking Brass Borer > Dextrose > Achamoth/Troll/Nosferatu.

[Mertron]

It was said earlier in the thread that as far as Enkidus subligar is concerned

Enkidu's Subligars: Khromosoul(confirmed), and Dea(deduced)

Has anyone actually had one drop off Dea yet? Will pop it sometime this weekend but just curious if anyone has seen it drop off him for sure yet, seems like a less complicated battle than the troll.

Edit: Also, for those who have fought it, it says it does roar > slam, is it stunnable at all?

[Akumaronin]

We actually got Enkidu Subligar off Dea earlier today. Forgot to take a SS though.

[Kaslo]

We actually got Enkidu Subligar off Dea earlier today. Forgot to take a SS though.

PODH! j/k Well that should confirm that, by my deduction that leaves a weapon dorp from moth and the rest of the blanks are repeats on T3s

Thus, moth would have to drop one of the following:

Fragarach
Shusui
Nanatsusayanotachi
Foolkiller
Alkalurops
Shenlong's Baghnakhs
Antares
Enforcer

[Jodwahh]

Please be fucking shenlongs. Pleasepleasepleaseokkthx.

[Spira]

since dea is solved.. by that deduction..

achamoths last drop should be Oracle's Braconi
and Nosferaturu should yield Enki leggings and Aurum Hands.. ya?

edit: page 24) Achamoth : Organics..

all the tier 3 NM's weapons have been accounted for..

[miokomioko]

MY SHENLONGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Where are yoooooooooou~

Does that make a full set of Oracle/Enkidu/Arum available most likely from various T3 and T4 ZNMs?