New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[Kaslo]

edit: page 24) Achamoth : Organics..

Oh yeah duh, I was being lazy and looking at your chart and saw it as an open spot

[Spira]

head/body Tier 4. as far as we can tell.

hands/legs/feet Tier 3. double incidence in drop pool.

edit: yea havent updated that part yet ;p

[shukuffxi]

We actually got Enkidu Subligar off Dea earlier today. Forgot to take a SS though.

PODH! j/k Well that should confirm that, by my deduction that leaves a weapon dorp from moth and the rest of the blanks are repeats on T3s

Thus, moth would have to drop one of the following:

Fragarach
Shusui
Nanatsusayanotachi
Foolkiller
Alkalurops
Shenlong's Baghnakhs
Antares
Enforcer

Pictar for Kaslo:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c.../enkiduleg.jpg

[Mertron]

He's uh, actually looking for a pic of it dropping off Dea, not the Troll.

For anyone who has fought him, is Dea stunnable?

[thetruepandagod]

He's uh, actually looking for a pic of it dropping off Dea, not the Troll.

For anyone who has fought him, is Dea stunnable?

yes it is

[shukuffxi]

Well poop, my bad XD Sorry Kaslo!

[Kuroshi]

LS is all set to fight Khim today!

We did the three T3 about the same time, which for future reference I would recommend anywho - since they're kinda on the way to each other.

No one's really been too detailed about the ??? pops, and that left us all running around for about an hour. The area where Experimental Lamia's ??? is, is West of Dvucca Isle as someone has said but you have to go through the second map of the Reef, need a Lamian Fang Key, trek qite alot of ground before you can make it to the top left zoneline. Right next tot he zone is where Nhun(sp) is though, so if you don't wanna run too much think it's better to do them both(or all 3) at the same time.

We were doing fine on Orobon, it got a bit TP spam happy though and wiped out alot of people, giving us the foreboding message. After enough of us died and we resorted to kiting, gravity stuck and it slowed down TP moves alot(i understand feeding it less TP with no melee, but it was a really odd change) nukes were hitting it really well - you cant bring echo's for this guy, he just does silencega too much would take 3+ stacks if you're lucky. Hypnotic Lamp and Deathgnash wasnt that big a problem, Seismic Tail though would hit 2+ shadows, even with 3 shadows up sometimes it'd do damage; and if only had 1-2 shadows up it pretty much KO'd you.

When we moved outside and fought the Experimental lamia, it was a RNG type and was reluctant to come into melee range for the most part, it spammed TP moves(like all these damn ZNMs) and could use Belly Dance as well.

We came thinking, cause I guess someone heard that a few ga3's could take out the lamia it summons, that we'd have the BLMs just do that and melee kill aggro nearby, ect. We got totally wrecked though when it summoned the other 3 lamia. They did not have low hp, like what we were told; 3 ga3's took them all to about 90% HP. They had a ton of HP, and would spike hate back-on whoever Experimental Lamia's target was when it used a TP move, then it'd take awhile to pull them off again.

The summons had their own TP, but would also use TP whenever Experimental Lamia used her's. If I remember right, she summoned them around 75%; we slowed down damage because someone said it could summon them multiple times, and since it summoned at 75% I assumed it would be a 75%-50%-25% thing.

It was strange though, once the summons were dead; Experimental Lamia would shoot range on the tanks but never use TP moves, and for awhile she stopped attacking at all; we think it is probably glitched. I ended up taking hate around 20%, and that's when sh went back to normal spamming TP moves and such.

Sorry if anything here has been said already, I just wanted to give a bit more of a heads-up than we got.

[Mprmidget]

This needs more testing but I'm simply not willing to do it ever again.

NEVER EVER EVER EVER Overloard while fighting Ob.

I've killed it a grand total of ten times now (Yay Coiler on the 10th kill). Our 11th fight I deactivated and reactivated my Spiritreaver to refill his MP gauge and we went into combat.

At about Ob's 50% mark I accidently Overloaded. He then went BATSHIT CRAZY and obliterated everyone. It was absolutely spectacular. He was swinging at borderline Hundred Fists speed and was throwing ultra high damage TP attacks about as fast as one possibly could.

Not even the melee versions of Ob become that deadly at low health. And he was in his BLM mode whooping melee ass.

Needless to say we wiped.

I agree 100%

recently did this with a group with me as 75PLD.

After we managed to change the frame after mortar spamage to mellee frame it became a simple fight hitting for low 100's non blocked. Mid way through the fight i noticed a huge increase in damage and attack speed from it hitting 300-350 on nomal and criticals and i didn't seem to block with my shield so i died quite quickly lol.

After reading you noticed a increase after overload i remember the PUP using overload as i thought it was the NM that used it but it was actually our pup. Luckily we had a whm/nin kite it while blm's nuked down its remaining hp for a win

[Spira]

i think everyone has overdrive and overload mixed up

[Xajii]

0/5 Iriz Ima not just on what I want (pigaches) but ANYTHING other than the hide. TH3/4 every time too. God damn so annoying.

Also killed T3 mamool and he was shit easy just takes a whiel cause of benediction, the BLM form doesn't even move and the WHM form isn't too bad to deal with. Groundburst is strong but shouldn't one shot you, same with Firespit. Cures, kite around the tower, cake.

Dropped aurum cuisses and water grip.

[Inquisitor]

i think everyone has overdrive and overload mixed up

Yep.
(In their simplest forms):
Overload = Automaton goes retarded and doesn't take commands. A PUP can't "use" Overload, it's more like a mistake on the PUP's part. This is apparently what causes Ob to go into hardcore mode.
Overdrive = 2hr which boosts the Automaton in numerous ways.

[Spira]

i'm a pup myself so i'm aware.. when i see people say 'dont use overload' im like o.O...

lol i guess thats what the game needs.. a NM that helps the community understand PUP more. There are not enough scary PUP job NMs in the game anyway.. hopefully WotG can somehow include more too

[Mprmidget]

sorry if i made a mistake my PUP is locked and i don't know too may PUPs so like you said i don't really know much about PUP

[Xerlic]

It was said earlier in the thread that as far as Enkidus subligar is concerned

Edit: Also, for those who have fought it, it says it does roar > slam, is it stunnable at all?

Yes Dea is a joke if you stun slam. It has a pretty large charge-up.

It also uses Slam after it does Boiling Blood as well.

[Jiyo]

I don't have a SS to prove it, but our shell did get Oracles Braconi from Achamoth. It went to a Smn who already had Marduk!

[Spira]

my LS managed to get Aurum Gauntlets from Nosferatu.. no pics tho..
With that I think tier 3 drops have been cleared up..

i just updated visio again..
did a visual arrangement overhaul to show more tier system.. i'm really happy with it now :D

hope everyone likes it..
once again.. link in my sig.

[Neosutra]

Neosutra is sad that Shenlong has not been found, and dreads the possibilities of where it comes from Q.Q

[Zoot]

In a moment of complete 5:00AM 8 hour event zombified mode last night, I was looking through my T2 ZNM options and deciding which path I should take. They all seemed pretty easy, and since I wanted none of the drops, I decided to choose a path with a drop one of my friends might like.

And so I chose Reaction. And then my mistake was pointed out. Woah is me, Q.Q

How exactly do you open those doors, do you need 6 people positioned at each of the levers on the map? (I only see four) Or what I'm hoping for, which I'm sure isn't the case, all 6 people at the same lever?

[rmtbot9000]

Looking for a good Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon strategy. I've skimmed through the thread and tried using the search but really didn't come up with anything. Has anyone done multiple successful runs on him yet? Any info would be awesome, thank you.

[Judai]

Looking for a good Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon strategy. I've skimmed through the thread and tried using the search but really didn't come up with anything. Has anyone done multiple successful runs on him yet? Any info would be awesome, thank you.

4 BLMs crush it in a couple minutes easy. Nuke>Run.