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  1. 2008-06-15 00:21 #1121
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadaj
    Hey, I got experimental lamia pop item, can one of you guys that fought it give me some tips on jobs and how many, strategy or something? I remember seeing screenshots in the thread but nothing about exactly how someone fought. I'll check back within it. Appreciate it.
    Kuroshi from my group went into some detail on this fight a few pages ago. Check it out.
  2. 2008-06-15 00:24 #1122
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...615_001918.png

    Just whittled it down slowly, no pop item unfortunately; 0/2 between Hydra and Tyger.
  3. 2008-06-15 00:34 #1123
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    yes it was very annoying sath... and was wondering why that blm wasnt doing anything..
  4. 2008-06-15 00:52 #1124
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Snapples
    http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...se_Tariqah.jpg
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    somthing that can dethrone apollos for bst?

    Unless I am being wooshed - no CHR in the world could ever even remotly beat Appolo or Lightstaff in terms of Charm successrate.
  5. 2008-06-15 02:05 #1125
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    i use temp/lohar for charm, chr+10.
    anyway, just did Dextrose tier 2 flan in halvung
    2smn whm rdm brd - 2bst drk nin (9 ppl
    killed the 3-4 flans nearby and it didnt run for a flan ever to suck hp from.
    in my oppinion it was really easy.
    also for people that want to go bst for the scorps there, they dont charm at all.
    beleive it or not, they dont. charm binds them which means uncharmable, and scan said no also.
    only dropped trigger nothing else.

    btw as 2bst we duo'd that puk in wajaom, puk/tiger/raptor, recycling pets best we could.
  6. 2008-06-15 02:38 #1126
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    For those who dream to have the Numerist Pumps from Lil'Apkallu : the english translation is wrong, sadly it's hpm +3 not +4... tested by a friend and myself, the french version has hmp +3 too. I still keep my Goliard Clogs for rest!
  7. 2008-06-15 02:43 #1127
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Well that sucks. Oh well, I suppose I'll still aim for a pair so I don't have to uncurse zenith feet for town gear~
  8. 2008-06-15 02:45 #1128
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    I'm curious, the group that got Foolkiller- did you test anything to activate the latent?
  9. 2008-06-15 02:46 #1129
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Lamia down. Took us a long time to figure out what we wanted to do. Tried to just zone nuke it at the south zone to reef but she was using her adds (popped them at like 97%) to kill us too quickly. So we figured out that the shadowdancer was curing her, we had half the group repeatedly zone the main mob and 2 adds while we killed shadowdancer.

    So, we proceed to kill the other two and then it was much easier. We had a PLD/NIN stand far off from it and just keep hate while it ranged attacked him. When the few DD's we had got hate they just zoned right behind us. Under ~10% she did ranged attacks rapid fire, had to end her quickly.

    Got enkidu leggings thank god, and 2 elemental grips, water and earth.

    Had only 1 blm the whole time lol. Poor RDM's were nuking while we SC'ed (I was SCing with COR ffs). But, once we separated her pops (Which she did NOT repop, btw) it was pretty straightforward.
  10. 2008-06-15 02:50 #1130
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Would be interesting to know of some of the weapons have latents. Some weapons don't even look decent, but hopefully latents are to be found. Hopefully :/
  11. 2008-06-15 03:06 #1131
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Anyone know if you can break Armored Gears before 50%? In both fight I've done, it always broke apart under 50%
  12. 2008-06-15 03:07 #1132
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Anyone know if you can break Armored Gears before 50%? In both fight I've done, it always broke apart under 50%
    Same with ours i think.
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Boo...I was hoping it was possible to break him before that. Gogogo blm.
  14. 2008-06-15 03:20 #1134
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    hmmm.. it seems like Tier 4 znm have a fairly large drop pool..

    I'm guessing 1 weapon, and at least 3 different pieces of eq.
    the Aurum/Enkidu/Oracle head piece seem to have double incidence drops. Already seen it for Enkidu's and Oracle. Aurum still slightly elusive..

    1 Hachiryu piece probably drops off each of the T4 NMs as well. Kote drops from Tyger, and probably Domaruuu from Tier5...

    point to note...

    Aurum/Enkidu/Oracle are Lv72 sets..
    Antares and Foolkiller are both Lv72 weapons...

    if we're to follow this trend.. the weapon that drops off Tinnin is probably lv 72 as well.. which leaves...

    Nanatsusaya (cactus sword)
    DMG:77 Delay:420 STR+7 DEX+7 Enhances "Zanshin" effect
    Lv. 72 SAM

    Or

    Shusui
    DMG:37 Delay:227 HP-20 DEX+3 Accuracy+5 "Subtle Blow"+2
    Lv. 72 NIN

    only good news about the t4 trigger drop thing is that even tho its not 100% at least its not 0%

    edit: given the fact that the T4 znms drop synth materials..
    the ball has been set in motion. in a matter of months Cerb will only be useful to DRK (or other jobs) who want an Algol. And stuff crafted from Cerb mats will see their prices crash significantly...
  15. 2008-06-15 03:50 #1135
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    @ Flippant, we had about 15 or so, we expected it to be overkill anyway. I can see Lamia being done with alot less people, you'd definitely need melee for the summons though, they would take too many nukes to bring down that way; Stun worked on her, but she doesn't cast any spells and Belly Dance is too fast so wasn't such a big issue.

    I can really see the Orobon being done in a much smaller group too, like a single party or less; TP burning isn't the way to go, but since nukes weren't resisted, and gravity/bind lands, it builds resistance to bind but was still fairly easy to kite.

    The same with Majlaef, of course early on people will take alot of members along and slowly you refine the technique and handle things with less and less, like anything.

    @ Kadaj, gratz on beating her; sorry for late posting, I'm not much of a forum go-er. Our group sat in the SE corner ledge across from the pop, I guess kiting via zoneline works really well, but we were worried about wipe and if she had walked back to the ??? we'd be unable to zombie or anything and get her back because of the terrain. Like pretty much anything I do, would recommend melee be NIN sub, the summons alone aren't all that tough. We really had to all focus on one summon, while we sorta spam cured the tanks until all summons were down.

    After the summons were down, I think it has a behavior of like 'exhaustion' because it seems to do hardly anything for a long period after that, I'm glad to know it can only summon the triple Lamia once per fight, or has a really small chance of doing it more than once.


    Chap already said, we managed to beat Khim; I'm surprised the different people are saying Cerb is from his counterpart, casting fire spells and using Chainspell... just seems odd.
    Had Einherjar right before, and got Khim in there wasreally rough, ate 2/3 Fullminations and timed-out(had 12 taurus, 12 scorpions, 12 poroggos, 6 manticore + Khim) anyway, that was the first encounter ever with Khim for alot of us, myself included.

    So I was kinda worried how the T4 would go, but it went really smooth - it didn't do anything special, except looks like you can't break it's wings and I can definitely see alot less people taking it down with ease. Fullmination had a huge wind up and never got off through Stun - I had heard previously that the terrain didn't allow for the elevation exploit like in real Khim, but it seemed to work for us; so you can do that to avoid getting Fullmination'd on the whole ally.
  16. 2008-06-15 04:00 #1136
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    OK, so at this point in time we are missing only:
    • Tinnin (Hydra)[list:170ehwom]
    • Weapon[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • Hachiryu[/*:m:170ehwom]
    [/*:m:170ehwom][*]Sarameya (Cerberus)
    • Hachiryu[/*:m:170ehwom]
    [/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom]

    Thats it right?


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    Tier 1 pop NM's:[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Vulpangue (Puk) - Spawned by trading Hellcage Butterfly to the ??? at D-10 in Wajaom Woodlands[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Cheese Horder Gigiroon (Qiqirn) - Spawned by trading Rodent Cheese to the ??? at F-9 on the main map in Alzadaal Ruins[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Cerise Seal key item[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Ob (Automaton) - Spawned by trading Cog Lubricant to the ??? at G-7 on the Bhaflau Remnants map of Alzadaal Ruins[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Claret (Slime) - Spawned by trading Pectin to the ??? at J-8 in Mt. Zhayolm[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Pine Green Seal key item[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Chigre (Chigoe) - Spawned by trading Spoilt Blood to the ??? at E-8 in Aydeewa Subterrane[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Velionis (Skeleton) - Spawned by trading Golden Teeth to the ??? at G-11 in Arrapago Reef[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom]

    Tier 2 Pop NM's:
    • Maroon Seal Key Item - Apple Green Seal[list:170ehwom]
    • Iriz Ima (marid) - Spawned by trading Senorita Pamama to the ??? at (J-8) in Wajaom Woodlands.[list:170ehwom]
    • Iriz Ima's Hide - For Key Item[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • http://bluegartr.com/JuneUpdate/img/item/11366.png Avocat Pigaches
      DEF:16 Enfeebling magic skill +3 Enmity-3 MP recovered while healing +3
      Lv. 72 THF/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • http://bluegartr.com/JuneUpdate/img/item/19154.png Ferrara
      DMG:74 Delay:387 Accuracy+4
      Lv. 71 WAR/PLD/DRK[/*:m:170ehwom]
    [/*:m:170ehwom][*]Iriri Samariri (poroggo) - Spawned by trading Samariri Corpsehair to the ??? at (F-7) in Mamook[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Lividroot Amooshah (ameretat) - Spawned by trading an Oily Blood to a ??? at (H-9) in an Bhaflau Thickets.[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Cerise Seal Key item - Salmon colored Seal[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Reacton (bomb) - Spawned by trading Bone Charcoal to the ??? at <unknown>[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Dextrose (flan) - Spawned by trading a Granulated Sugar to a ??? at (J-6) in Halvung.[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Pine Green Seal key item- Amber-colored seal(T3)
    • Zareehkl the Jubilant (Qutrub) - Spawned by trading a M. No. 11 Molting to a ??? at (?-?) in Arrapago Reef.[list:170ehwom]
    • Zareehkl's Neckpiece - For Key Item[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • http://bluegartr.com/JuneUpdate/img/item/18949.png Zareehkl Scythe
      DMG:91 Delay:528 Latent effect: Increases rate of "Triple Attack"
      Lv. 71 DRK[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • http://bluegartr.com/JuneUpdate/img/item/19108.png Zareehkl Jambiya
      DMG:31 Delay:201 Evasion+5 Latent effect: DMG:36
      Lv. 71 WAR/WHM/BLM/RDM/PLD/BRD/NIN/SCH[/*:m:170ehwom]
    [/*:m:170ehwom][*]Verdelet (Imp) - Spawned by trading a Mint Drop to a ??? at (J-6) in an Caedarva Mire.[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Wulgaru (Acrolith) - Spawned by trading an Opalus Gem to a ??? at (G-6) in Alzadaal Undersea Ruins[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom]

    Tier 3 pop NM's:[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Experimental Lamia - Spawned by trading a Myrrh to a ??? at F-7 in Caedarva Mire[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Nuhn - Spawned by trading a Rose Scampi to a ??? at (?-?) in an unknown zone.[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Salmon colored Seal key item[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Anvilsoul Bhurborlor - Spawned by trading Vinegar Pie to the ??? in Mount Zhayolm H-8[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Achamoth (Wamoura) - Spawned by trading a Rock Juice to a ??? at (H-4) of the first map of Halvung.[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Apple Green Seal[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Gotah Zha the Remolent (Mamool) - Spawned by trading Sheep Botfly to the ??? at <unknown>[/*:m:170ehwom][*]Dea (Wivre) - Spawned by trading Olzhiryan Cactus to the ??? at F-7 Bhaflau Thickets[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom]

    Tier 4 Pop NM's:
    • Charcoal Grey Seal, a Deep Purple Seal and a Chestnut-colored Sea[list:170ehwom]
    • Tinnin (Hydra) - Spawned by trading a Monkey Wine to a ??? on the Wajaom Woodlands Islet.[list:170ehwom]
    • Tinnin's Fang - for key item Lilac-colored Seal[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • http://bluegartr.com/JuneUpdate/img/item/16156.png Oracle's Cap
      DEF:19 HP+15 MP+25 Elemental magic skill +5 MP recovered while healing +2
      Lv. 72 THF/WHM/BRD/SMN[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • http://bluegartr.com/JuneUpdate/img/item/16157.png Enkidu's Cap
      DEF:23 DEX+3 AGI+3 Accuracy+8 Ranged Accuracy+8 "Subtle Blow"+2
      Lv. 72 MNK/RDM/RNG/SAM/NIN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • Hydra Mats[/*:m:170ehwom]
    • Tinnin's Fang - For Lilac-colored Seal[/*:m:170ehwom]
    [/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Fallow-colored seal, a Taupe-colored Seal, and a Sienna-colored Seal[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][*]Copper-colored Seal, a Purplish-grey Seal, and a Gold-colored Seal[/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom][/*:m:170ehwom][/list:u:170ehwom]
  17. 2008-06-15 04:00 #1137
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroshi
    I can really see the Orobon being done in a much smaller group too, like a single party or less; TP burning isn't the way to go, but since nukes weren't resisted, and gravity/bind lands, it builds resistance to bind but was still fairly easy to kite.
    Hmm, based on this, do you think it's possible to solo with w. legs as rdm? I admit I've never fought it so I'm not sure if it does anything crazy, but I would prefer if I could do it alone instead of having to drag people out there with me.
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Thanks for the posts about Experimental Lamia! I appreciate it.
  19. 2008-06-15 04:11 #1139
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Waef
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroshi
    I can really see the Orobon being done in a much smaller group too, like a single party or less; TP burning isn't the way to go, but since nukes weren't resisted, and gravity/bind lands, it builds resistance to bind but was still fairly easy to kite.
    Hmm, based on this, do you think it's possible to solo with w. legs as rdm? I admit I've never fought it so I'm not sure if it does anything crazy, but I would prefer if I could do it alone instead of having to drag people out there with me.
    hmm, i'm not sure how well it builds resistance to gravity; we only starded kiting about the last 20% or so since the ally was in such bad shape. South of it's spawn is two Imp pops so you basically only can kite it around it's room, there's a big rock that it sometimes paths strangely around though.

    I think rdm with movement speed could solo it, would take awhile; it had alot of hit points. Even when kiting it will probably still use some TP moves, like Slow and Silence+Disease.
  20. 2008-06-15 04:22 #1140
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    Re: New ToAU NMs (post findings here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Garion
    OK, so at this point in time we are missing only:
    • Tinnin (Hydra)[list:22l6nqlu]
    • Weapon[/*:m:22l6nqlu]
    • Hachiryu[/*:m:22l6nqlu]
    [/*:m:22l6nqlu][*]Sarameya (Cerberus)
    • Hachiryu[/*:m:22l6nqlu]
    [/*:m:22l6nqlu][/list:u:22l6nqlu]

    Thats it right?
    That's assuming they follow the: Hachi, 2 set, 1 weapon pattern. We haven't had enough runs I think to really nail that down could be 2 head, 1 body, hachi, 1 weapon (Only theorizing cause I don't see Aurum Head droping off P Warden...[And a little part of me doesn't want Ekindu Body to drop from P Warden either ])

    EDIT: Just noticed you had Aurum Body on Cerb, has that been confirmed yet? (I know you prob deduced, but still if Aurum Head is hiding in the T4s then it could be that each T4 drops a specific body and the heads go 2 a piece)
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