New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[Tricen]

That's like the best staff for rdm @_________________________________________@.

[Tajin]

Indeed, good shit, gotta take sum pics.

[Toksyuryel]

Calling Dorje on hydra.

[chapstick]

Sorry, but I have to disagree with that staff (M.acc +20, etc) being the best compared to HQ staves for RDM.

[Garion]

Sorry, but I have to disagree with that staff (M.acc +20, etc) being the best compared to HQ staves for RDM.

just depends on what you think about enfeebles, it has +10 mnd, makes the enfeebles more potent. Thats why ppl think its better.

[chapstick]

Sorry, but I have to disagree with that staff (M.acc +20, etc) being the best compared to HQ staves for RDM.

just depends on what you think about enfeebles, it has +10 mnd, makes the enfeebles more potent. Thats why ppl think its better.

Mythic +1 / Muse Tariqah beats it out on potency. :/

[eva00r]

Cerb/Khim drops 5 items so ... 1 more item from Hydra. It should be D44 Lv 75 BLU sword.

[fantasticdan]

That's like the best staff for rdm @_________________________________________@.

For....what? The only use I can see is stacking mnd for enfeebles, but for things that matter you're better off sticking with an hq staff, and stacking mnd elsewhere. With ES, you're better off with wand + shield.

Cerb/Khim drops 5 items so ... 1 more item from Hydra. It should be D44 Lv 75 BLU sword.

That drops from lambton worm, check the sandworm thread.

[bombard]

Sorry, but I have to disagree with that staff (M.acc +20, etc) being the best compared to HQ staves for RDM.

Good if you wanna be lazy and save some room -- i'm sure you could more than get by with this staff over the 6 HQs (save light and dark HQs). But i'm sure you could sell this for more than you could the 6HQ staves you'd replace it with at this moment (i'm sure i only saw a RA tag on it).

[Tricen]

HQ ele staves are +15MACC or +15% macc? The staff also has 10int/mnd which is another 5 acc with it, assuming 2:1.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Sometimes you want to land it AND have better potency!
I'm guessing 20 Macc is pretty close to staves' Macc and the relevant stat DOES add to Macc as well as potency.

[CelinaAlexander]

HQ ele staves are +15MACC or +15% macc? The staff also has 10int/mnd which is another 5 acc with it, assuming 2:1.

Pretty sure it's +15%, since it's 15% damage, but that's just a guess.

[chapstick]

Anything worth using staves on also will have alot of skill gear in the setup. +15% of ~330+ skill is > 20 macc. Not to mention that you still need to tote around HQ staves for nuking unless you just want to straight up gimp yourself.

That staff is mediocre at best if you ask me.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Anything worth using staves on also will have alot of skill gear in the setup. +15% of ~330+ skill is > 20 macc.

The only thing that adds a % to your acc stat is food. I don't see them deviating from that pattern for ele staves. I doubt that the staves add 50 macc. It just doesn't make sense and doesn't fit with what I have seen.

Not to mention that you still need to tote around HQ staves for nuking unless you just want to straight up gimp yourself.

That staff is mediocre at best if you ask me.

RDM nuking luls. You'd still only want Aquilos and Jupiter for most RDM nuking, right?

[Virtuous Saint]

Simple fact is no one knows for a fact how much magic acc HQ staves add, they assume it is +15% due to +15% dmg, however it could be far from that sorry to tell anyone who thinks that. You want to know how much it gives you would have to do extensive testing, which as far as I know... has not happened. So before you put out hate against a staff that could easily surpass HQ staff as far as potency + acc goes, go do tests, otherwize please don't say shit you think, but can't confirm for a fact.

Note: in no way am I saying this WILL be better acc wize, just stating those of you who think you know the magic acc on HQ staves, think again plz.

[Eggroll]

Thinking either Nanatsuya or Shisui drop off Hydra, hoping it's the former .

[chapstick]

Not to mention that you still need to tote around HQ staves for nuking unless you just want to straight up gimp yourself.

That staff is mediocre at best if you ask me.

RDM nuking luls. You'd still only want Aquilos and Jupiter for most RDM nuking, right?

luls at what? playing RDM to its full potential? Sure, mostly aquilo's and juipter's for the most part, but not all the time. I use Fire III often on my RDM because the other two aren't ready yet. Terra's for -physical damage taken, apollo's for curing, pluto's for resting. I seriously can't believe you think it replaces HQ staves (or staves in general, you still need to carry at least the NQ of the last few around).

[orson]

Simple fact is no one knows for a fact how much magic acc HQ staves add, they assume it is +15% due to +15% dmg, however it could be far from that sorry to tell anyone who thinks that. You want to know how much it gives you would have to do extensive testing, which as far as I know... has not happened. So before you put out hate against a staff that could easily surpass HQ staff as far as potency + acc goes, go do tests, otherwize please don't say shit you think, but can't confirm for a fact.

Note: in no way am I saying this WILL be better acc wize, just stating those of you who think you know the magic acc on HQ staves, think again plz.

I could be wrong but I'm thinking Studio Ghibli(sp?) tested them a long time ago.

[Tajin]

Mistilteinn / Muse Tariqah beats it out on potency. :/

Fixed.

[Tricen]

Is it MATT+15% or MATT+15, or is tho no difference?