New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[Therin]

The discovery of the Lambton Worm makes me think nothing from this update is even in the Pendemonium Warden loot pool. I don't think we've seen the extent of what this worm can drop.

I agree with this.

I don't think we have enough undiscovered items right now to give him a full loot pool.

[Sagacious Sundi]

I would think he does drop those 2 Hachiryu pieces, since T4 NMs drop some Hachiryu's, right? It's still possible that the Pandy Warden isn't fully implemented, even if some of his drops are in the .dats.

[Darkmoon]

The discovery of the Lambton Worm makes me think nothing from this update is even in the Pendemonium Warden loot pool. I don't think we've seen the extent of what this worm can drop.

I agree with this.

I don't think we have enough undiscovered items right now to give him a full loot pool.

Going with how crazy this update is, Pandemonium Warden probably drops W.legs, D.Body, and N.body....

Love this system, never expected this update to be this game changing.

[Therin]

The discovery of the Lambton Worm makes me think nothing from this update is even in the Pendemonium Warden loot pool. I don't think we've seen the extent of what this worm can drop.

I agree with this.

I don't think we have enough undiscovered items right now to give him a full loot pool.

Going with how crazy this update is, Pandemonium Warden probably drops W.legs, D.Body, and N.body....

Love this system, never expected this update to be this game changing.

I'd be greatly pissed if that happened. @_@

Kirin drops are old and piss easy to get. Odin with King abjurations was good, but unless they're putting E.Bodies on Pandemonium Warden too I hope they steer clear of abjurations.

[Lexa]

I'd be greatly pissed if that happened. @_@

Kirin drops are old and piss easy to get. Odin with King abjurations was good, but unless they're putting E.Bodies on Pandemonium Warden too I hope they steer clear of abjurations.

I dunno, if they're gonna go the abjuration route, I'd prefer the King abjurations to no abjurations at all. Though yeah, Kirin loot pools are so 2006!

[Kaslo]

I would think he does drop those 2 Hachiryu pieces, since T4 NMs drop some Hachiryu's, right? It's still possible that the Pandy Warden isn't fully implemented, even if some of his drops are in the .dats.

There are 4 pieces to the set

2 of the T4s have each had 1 hachi drop

theory should be Sun's drop from the 3rd and Body from Pandy.

And has anyone looked at the amount of items still not found, seems there could be a whole loot pool there for pandy.

[Alistaire]

Did anyone ever come up with a good strat for Iriri? All I ever saw was "We were doing good until charmga..."

I would say Mages + some tanks, and have a 2nd holding/sleeping group for when charmga gets through your phalanx of stunners. An idea I had would be to use BLUs for tanks using low level swords, because the level/dmg of the sword doesn't affect BLU spells, but they do need a sword to have the highest acc. When they get charmed it's a lot easier to deal with getting hit by wax swords than it is to be hit by perdu hangers and ifrit's blades. Shouldn't be an issue for good sleepers regardless of weapons though. If it doesn't hit a PLD too hard /war just do that. Holding group just simply doesn't feed any TP till people are uncharmed.

[Kimiko]

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lame drops

/sigh, if only Oracle's could be wore by jobs that actually needed the skill boosts (like oh Scholar).

[Kaylia]

Did anyone ever come up with a good strat for Iriri? All I ever saw was "We were doing good until charmga..."

Seriously...what's wrong with the drop rate? Is there a quantiy per server/per day, because we are 0/12 on marid drop.

[chapstick]

Did anyone ever come up with a good strat for Iriri? All I ever saw was "We were doing good until charmga..."

Seriously...what's wrong with the drop rate? Is there a quantiy per server/per day, because we are 0/12 on marid drop.

Have you been using TH4? 2/2 on it (avocat bewts)

[Kaylia]

TH4 for at least half of those.

[Virtuous Saint]

Pandemonium could drop both witch sash, and wise strap.

[shaddix]

a while back when i got apollo for my brd, i did a test with lullaby on colibri between nq and hq. Zero resists went from 70% to 80% half resists went from 24% to 17% full resists went from 8% to 3%, this was over 200 casts, so small sample I know I alternated between hq and nq staff for each cast to try and negate any unknown variables. None of them were on lightsday/darksday obviously.

So there's some info, i personally do not think 5 macc can make that much of a difference

[Alistaire]

Pandemonium could drop both witch sash, and wise strap.

I bet if he does drop those that Pandemonium himself will land a few magic crits on people...

[Virtuous Saint]

a while back when i got apollo for my brd, i did a test with lullaby on colibri between nq and hq. Zero resists went from 70% to 80% half resists went from 24% to 17% full resists went from 8% to 3%, this was over 200 casts, so small sample I know I alternated between hq and nq staff for each cast to try and negate any unknown variables. None of them were on lightsday/darksday obviously.

So there's some info, i personally do not think 5 macc can make that much of a difference

First of all, it doesn't matter what you think, and second it takes more testing than that. That is only difference between NQ staff and HQ staff, once again an example of someone who thinks the magic acc on them goes directly off how much % dmg increase is. You do not know that NQ staff is 5magic acc lower than HQ nor do you know that it is 5%magic acc lower because you don't know how much either really amounts to, this test doesn't prove anything, but the fact that HQ staff will net less resist than NQ.

[Francisco II]

I'm betting Pandemonium uses Chainspell, then immediately draws everyone in, casts Breakga, Dispelga and then spams the living fuck out of Meteor. Every 10%.

[spoiler:129w0l46]lolAV[/spoiler:129w0l46]

[Zoot]

I just hope that something drops oily trousers. I don't think Pandemonium is oily, but I could be mistaken.

[shaddix]

First of all, it doesn't matter what you think, and second it takes more testing than that. That is only difference between NQ staff and HQ staff, once again an example of someone who thinks the magic acc on them goes directly off how much % dmg increase is. You do not know that NQ staff is 5magic acc lower than HQ nor do you know that it is 5%magic acc lower because you don't know how much either really amounts to, this test doesn't prove anything, but the fact that HQ staff will net less resist than NQ.

I thought the problem was that people were thinking hq staff is +15 macc or some way +15%?? I'm just saying that if it is +15 and nq is +10, then I do not think that +5 will make as big a difference as I observed, therefore the macc staff would not be best for landing things like bind/grav/silence. And 200 casts is enough to see that its better, obviously not enough to get rid of variance. I really don't have a way to get that macc staff, or i would test.

[Virtuous Saint]

Well someone got, and said they would test, lets hope they do.

[Khrno]

Did anyone ever come up with a good strat for Iriri? All I ever saw was "We were doing good until charmga..."

Seriously...what's wrong with the drop rate? Is there a quantiy per server/per day, because we are 0/12 on marid drop.

Today did 2 Marids, 3 Borers, 2 slimes, 4 Qiqirns, all with TH3 = 0 drops.