New ToAU NMs (Now with 100% more Pandemonium!) pg77

[fallenleaf]

To me though it didn't seem random which he popped.. we got 3 sets of RDM -> 2 sets of DRK -> nothing but hammars after that. I don't remember seeing any RNG types, odd.

I've only done this fight once, but i agree with chapstick and kaeko, 3 blms are not going to cut it, what's especially fun and happened to us twice was the NM using stoneskinga right after summoning. I'd say if you have the numbers -ga them down (5 or more blms?) otherwise just kite them with movement speed and you should be good. The ones with hammers will rape everyone if given a chance.

[Kaeko]

To me though it didn't seem random which he popped.. we got 3 sets of RDM -> 2 sets of DRK -> nothing but hammars after that. I don't remember seeing any RNG types, odd.

I've only done this fight once, but i agree with chapstick and kaeko, 3 blms are not going to cut it, what's especially fun and happened to us twice was the NM using stoneskinga right after summoning. I'd say if you have the numbers -ga them down (5 or more blms?) otherwise just kite them with movement speed and you should be good. The ones with hammers will rape everyone if given a chance.

If you want to "low man" this, this is what I would do. When it pops, train the whole thing to the Wamoura camp area (where Chapstick fought it... this is where we ended up fighting it too). Doesn't matter how many clots and trolls you get. Leave 1 guy at this zone to start the fight (a RDM or tank, something that can hold). Pop, train to this zone, everyone with hate zone, someone tags the NM and holds for a second. Come back, nothing but the NM.

Now you got a place with no adds around you, a zone 5 seconds from you, and when it pops adds, someone just quickly diagas and zones. You can easily 6 man it in this fashion once you get it to this zone. Just make sure no mage is resting in the path between the NM and zone or diaga will not pull sufficient hate. Use sleepga if you want to prevent this from happening (generates actual CE). Again, NM itself is quite cakey. If you want to be simple and ga3 adds, 5-6 BLMs should do it. Also, the hammer adds are the worst by far.

[Mojo]

I was the one who originally posted that ga3ing would work. It does, but it turns out you need 4 BLM and it won't work on the RDM or WAR mobs. The adds are called by time as well as boss HP, so ga3ing can even make it more difficult depending on how fast you're killing the NM(they were coming out ridiculously fast with all of the damage being done to it from melee and all of the ga spells). As mentioned before, the best way to do it is to fight it at a zone and have someone Diaga > zone the adds.

The hammer trolls are by far the worst. I'm almost certain he only calls them when he's below 50%(I've done it 3 times now and this has been true in each case). When his HP reaches 20%, all of his adds depop and he starts spamming overthrow. It has a penchant for one shotting non MNK melee, so unless you have a PLD tanking, be prepared to kill it fast.

[Gunitsoldier]

I was the one who originally posted that ga3ing would work. It does, but it turns out you need 4 BLM and it won't work on the RDM or WAR mobs. The adds are called by time as well as boss HP, so ga3ing can even make it more difficult depending on how fast you're killing the NM(they were coming out ridiculously fast with all of the damage being done to it from melee and all of the ga spells). As mentioned before, the best way to do it is to fight it at a zone and have someone Diaga > zone the adds.

The hammer trolls are by far the worst. I'm almost certain he only calls them when he's below 50%(I've done it 3 times now and this has been true in each case). When his HP reaches 20%, all of his adds depop and he starts spamming overthrow. It has a penchant for one shotting non MNK melee, so unless you have a PLD tanking, be prepared to kill it fast.

Seems that the ZNMs are supposed to be killed with something else than zergs. SMN/BST/PLD/BLM/RDM are awesome on pretty much any ZNM from what I've seen so far.

[Phla]

excuse me for asking if this is not the place, but could someone help me out with an achamoth strat? when it popped the babies it completely wrecked us and it kept popping them out. ._. lots of people in my linkshell want aurum feet and organics so getting a solid strat down for this would be great (i know they drop from gears too but this will help us move along on cerby path as well ^^). anyway, thank you for any help and strats you guys can offer

[Franzer]

Seems that the ZNMs are supposed to be killed with something else than zergs. SMN/BST/PLD/BLM/RDM are awesome on pretty much any ZNM from what I've seen so far.

omg people might actually have to put some effort into something for once

[Kayos]

Can anyone describe how to fight Bhurborlor (Tier3 Troll) please ?

Use the strats that others have mentioned on this page but also have your tanks stand out of melee range as I mentioned a couple pages back. Bhurborlor won't attack at all or do any tp moves (including overthrow). Makes it a cake really.

[Gunitsoldier]

Seems that the ZNMs are supposed to be killed with something else than zergs. SMN/BST/PLD/BLM/RDM are awesome on pretty much any ZNM from what I've seen so far.

omg people might actually have to put some effort into something for once

I don't mind it not being zergable btw, if you'd look at my sig you'd see i'm both SMN and BST. I'm glad this wasnt made zerg-able.

[Starr]

How can you forget RNG 8)

[Gunitsoldier]

How can you forget RNG 8)

Correct, RNG is very good too for ZNMs AND Ixion.

[Fyrebrand]

excuse me for asking if this is not the place, but could someone help me out with an achamoth strat? when it popped the babies it completely wrecked us and it kept popping them out. ._. lots of people in my linkshell want aurum feet and organics so getting a solid strat down for this would be great (i know they drop from gears too but this will help us move along on cerby path as well ^^). anyway, thank you for any help and strats you guys can offer

pop archmoth pull it back to the zone every time it pops a baby have someone shoot the smn and zone the smn will depop other than that fight is super easy.

[eva00r]

Can anyone describe how to fight Bhurborlor (Tier3 Troll) please ?

Use the strats that others have mentioned on this page but also have your tanks stand out of melee range as I mentioned a couple pages back. Bhurborlor won't attack at all or do any tp moves (including overthrow). Makes it a cake really.

Is this a glitch ? or It's his real behavior ?

[Kayos]

Can anyone describe how to fight Bhurborlor (Tier3 Troll) please ?

Use the strats that others have mentioned on this page but also have your tanks stand out of melee range as I mentioned a couple pages back. Bhurborlor won't attack at all or do any tp moves (including overthrow). Makes it a cake really.

Is this a glitch ? or It's his real behavior ?

I want to say it's his real behaviour but I have only fought it once so hesitent to make such predictions. Maybe someone else could test it out. Can't give you the exact range to be away from him because of ps2 limitations but I would say take 3 good steps back from the outmost melee distance. He would then only move forward and start meleeing sometimes when he summoned and the pathing caused him to move forward.

[eva00r]

Thanks I'll try it and share my experience here.

[Inquisitor]

FYI, I logged on after maintenance just to find that the prices of ZNM pop items has approximately doubled. Tier I are coming out to 2.5k, Tier II @ 5k, and Tier III @ 7.5k.

[*Blaize*]

FYI, I logged on after maintenance just to find that the prices of ZNM pop items has approximately doubled. Tier I are coming out to 2.5k, Tier II @ 5k, and Tier III @ 7.5k.

That's normal, server maintenance resets the pop item cost.

[Inquisitor]

I dont remember them being anything close to that..

EDIT: Ok, just disregard anything I just said. Friend informed me that these were in fact the prices immediately after the original update came out.

[Wulfgang]

We had a rather epic troll fight last friday. Somone on the forums said the exact same thing to the above poster (use a couple BLMs to ga3 adds) and 1 person even mentioned 3 BLMs would do... This is NOT true. We took the info then to be accurate and went with 9 including 3 BLMs. The adds popped fast, we did x3 Ga3 and it only went to ~50% on adds.

Someone on our Vent told us he read on BG that 2-3 ga III's would take them out as well; no way and it almost screwed us. Best Strategy imo is the same as Achamoth's. Just zone it, then have people pull the adds as they pop to the zone; they will despawn and you can kill the Troll easily.

[WithinMemoria]

Has anyone checked the tier pop item prices after maintenance?

Tier 1 reading 2500..
Tier 2 reading 5000..

Did they change it?

After maintenance last time
1400
2400

[aurik]

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