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  1. #41
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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    If it's possible to achieve 100% block rate, even for 1/3rd of the time.....that's insanity and I can't even start to imagine what possibilities that opens up.
    I'm jealous, I only get 100% block rate 1/10th of the time, but then again that's on my RDM with uncapped shield skill.

    For an aegis PLD with max shield skill, how often can they block?
    a lot? lol when i did mine i didnt use full shield to see if it did the same or more block rate. But to be quiet honest i couldnt tell if it blocked more, less or even out. Ill do that today when i get a chance. My test was lil short since it was already late and had to work... If theres ever an update like this imma call in next day.

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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    Spell guy wasnt there last night, but tonight I am going to spend some time testing % increase (with and without skill).

    Ill post when im done.

  3. #43
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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    Well tried today with Cerberus(before maint luckly),sadly spikes weren't hitting at all (0,1,2 points of damage with blocked critics for around 220 dmgs).
    Apart from spikes ,works very good when you are without utsu recasts can save your butt.Sweet at all,really.

    Hope this fawkin maints stops so I can try with Tia 2hours too ,lol,we will see then!

    cya

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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    If it's possible to achieve 100% block rate, even for 1/3rd of the time.....that's insanity and I can't even start to imagine what possibilities that opens up.
    I'm jealous, I only get 100% block rate 1/10th of the time, but then again that's on my RDM with uncapped shield skill.

    For an aegis PLD with max shield skill, how often can they block?
    I have never seen a parse where any shield, including Aegis, blocked more than 65% over an extended period of time. This seemed to be some sort of natural soft cap where in almost all situations the block percentage capped off.

    The Aegis claim to fame is it reduces a huge percentage of the damage dealt per hit (ive heard better than a tier 4 shield), and could still reach blockrates of a tier 3 shield (65% with reasonable shield skill, somewhere near or above 300).

    The only exception I have ever personally encountered was that on ~DC mobs, against myself with capped 276 shield skill at the time, I was getting an average of closer to 80%+ with a Sipar equiped. There have been uncomfirmed rumors saying that specific shield had a hidden effect of +Block Rate % on it, and my limited tests seemed to support that.

    However, I put off further testing until I finished my RDM sub, which is now at 36. I tried to see if other people with more time and a similiar setup would assist in testing, but that thread died long ago. So, possibly if I get bored this weekend, since I now have a good enough /RDM sub and our new little spell, I'll investigate it further, with and without Reprisal. If I had to guess, there is probably some hard cap under 100% for shield blocking. I'm just curious what it is now, since not letting the soft cap be broken now with the buff on seems stupid to me.

  5. #45
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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    Quote Originally Posted by Kumaccio
    Well tried today with Cerberus(before maint luckly),sadly spikes weren't hitting at all (0,1,2 points of damage with blocked critics for around 220 dmgs).
    Apart from spikes ,works very good when you are without utsu recasts can save your butt.Sweet at all,really.

    Hope this fawkin maints stops so I can try with Tia 2hours too ,lol,we will see then!

    cya
    Aggree. and Im missing all the fun cuz of work. I want to try Cerberus, Tiamat or something like that on /rdm now.

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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    So back to:
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    If it's possible to achieve 100% block rate, even for 1/3rd of the time.....that's insanity and I can't even start to imagine what possibilities that opens up.
    Since Aegis can get a 100% block rate 2/3 of the time, that's double the insanity!

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    Re: Initial Reprisal Testing and Information

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    So back to:
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    If it's possible to achieve 100% block rate, even for 1/3rd of the time.....that's insanity and I can't even start to imagine what possibilities that opens up.
    Since Aegis can get a 100% block rate 2/3 of the time, that's double the insanity!
    The 'situational percentages' sarcasm is cute and all, but you know that wasn't what I meant. Being able to have defined selectable periods of time with an extremely high block percentage takes much of the risk out of many fights. Not everyone has an Aegis, so finding cute little alternate shield tricks could be nice for the majority or the non-relic bearing community. I am hoping something comes of this, but my hopes aren't that high. Like I originally said, my original tests were impressive, but definately not long enough, even by my lax standards. Maybe the second crack at it will be.

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