Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

[Narse]

I saw a lot of bad info about weapon farming, and I never saw it get corrected (though maybe I missed it):

If you have floor 96 access and no runic key, you can warp before the boss dies and have a shot (not 100% drop) at a random weapon, and a shot at a headpiece. If you clear the disc, you have a 100% drop on a random weapon, and 100% drop on a head, and you get the Runic Key. If you enter floor 96 with the runic key, you get a 100% drop on the weapon for the job as the person who's disc you're using, and a shot at a headpiece. If you clear, you also get a 100% head drop. For my group, I found a friend that had 96 + runic key already and we agreed to get each other weapons. Now I just have to get the people in my group their weapons (lucked out and had a correct one drop when I cleared the first time), which I can now do 100% accurately each win, instead of a random shot at a random weapon. You need level 50 in each job that you wanna get a weapon for in order to enter, so keep that in mind when you select a member to be the '2nd run up'.

[layoneil]

I saw a lot of bad info about weapon farming, and I never saw it get corrected (though maybe I missed it):
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Now I just have to get the people in my group their weapons (lucked out and had a correct one drop when I cleared the first time), which I can now do 100% accurately each win, instead of a random shot at a random weapon.

this is dumb and a waste of your points if those people don't have a Runic Key. you should only get people weapons who are serious about doing this (at least Captain Rank and working on Runic Key). your first priority now should be to help everyone who wants to do this get their Runic Key and in the process you can build up Tokens for yourself.

[vinelle]

My point was that 150k tokens, odin, salvage bosses, 3 toau kings, and captain rank are things that someone could already have done. Which makes the "only have to choose 1" theory weaker, sadly, at least in my mind.

That's no different than saying getting Captain rank should be more involved. You could have completed every assault and Nyzule Isle prior to the rank being patched in and ranked up immediately following the update. That didn't make obtaining Captain any less difficult. The proactive player who stayed on top of all content was rewarded, while those who lagged behind would find it harder to keep up later on. This also applies to Assaults vs Salvage vs Nyzule Isle.

My point was that 150k tokens, odin, salvage bosses, 3 toau kings, and captain rank are things that someone could already have done. Which makes the "only have to choose 1" theory weaker, sadly, at least in my mind.

they could theoretically have the 100k therion ichors too right?

there's no reason why those people shouldn't be rewarded. the Maat's Cap thing was retroactive too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's mathematically possible for anyone to be close to 100k ichor yet.

Don't get me wrong. I (desperately) want it to be the "choose one" method. And I love the idea of rewarding people for stuff they've already done. I just have a bad feeling that SE doesn't see it that way. Given that the weapons clearly aren't even done yet (barring very strange dat issues), I doubt they'd release them with requirements that could already be completely finished by some people.

Also, comparing captain rank to a relic-level weapon seems a little odd to me. ;P

[layoneil]

Given that the weapons clearly aren't even done yet (barring very strange dat issues), I doubt they'd release them with requirements that could already be completely finished by some people.

stop saying that, there are THREE quests in the series, you'd only be done with two of them.

An Imperial Heist
Client: Ovjang (Salaheem's Sentinels, Aht Urhgan Whitegate)
Summary:
Locate and retrieve the ancient weapons stolen from the Imperial Treasury. Quartz transmitters planted on the weapons indicate that they lay somewhere in the deepest ruins of Nyzul Isle...

Duties, Tasks, and Deeds
Client: Paparoon (Nashmau)
Summary:
Honorary officer Paparoon has been brought on to see that you carrying out your imperial orders.
Alexandrite, Wyrmseeker Areuhat, assault memoires, holy relics... A multitude of paths lay open before you.

Forging a New Myth
Client: Nashmeira (Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
Driven by ambition, yet still haunted by the disembodied whispers that come at the weapon's touch, you have been ordered by Nashmeira in the name of the Empire to harness the seemingly unconquerable power of the mythic weapons.

you very well can get exactly what's in those dats from the second quest and only the third quest will truly make those weapons useful. and we have no info at all on what's needed for the last quest.

[Sumiko]

Sorry, don't know if anyone actually pointed this out yet but...

50,000 Alexandrite would also mean ... well, at the most... 99 per stack, around 500 inventory spaces? ...

As of now there's no 100->1 item conversion (100 bynes to convert to a 100 byne bill)

That means SE would suggest 2-3 mules at most just to update a relic?

Little strange... unless you can turn them into the NPC to store.

[vinelle]

Given that the weapons clearly aren't even done yet (barring very strange dat issues), I doubt they'd release them with requirements that could already be completely finished by some people.

stop saying that, there are THREE quests in the series, you'd only be done with two of them.

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Forging a New Myth
Client: Nashmeira (Throne Room, Imperial Ward)
Summary:
Driven by ambition, yet still haunted by the disembodied whispers that come at the weapon's touch, you have been ordered by Nashmeira in the name of the Empire to harness the seemingly unconquerable power of the mythic weapons.

you very well can get exactly what's in those dats from the second quest and only the third quest will truly make those weapons useful. and we have no info at all on what's needed for the last quest.

True, we have little to go on for the third quest. Someone did post some dats of the npc text (this thread, wasn't it?) that made it seem like possibly a spawned NM fight... But it was late when I read that.

[Jaybar]

Sorry, don't know if anyone actually pointed this out yet but...

50,000 Alexandrite would also mean ... well, at the most... 99 per stack, around 500 inventory spaces? ...

As of now there's no 100->1 item conversion (100 bynes to convert to a 100 byne bill)

That means SE would suggest 2-3 mules at most just to update a relic?

Little strange... unless you can turn them into the NPC to store.

Might be Sagheera style. Trade in 'drites and he'll keep track of how many you've given. I still want to see someone at this stage trade him one and see what he says.

[Zytar]

yea ._.

i myself is starting a einherjar group just for this shit ._.

If its early NA mornings, i'd be game if you'd have me <.<

[shihei]

Someone needs to give Slott an alexandrite just saw we can see what happens when he trades it
(diclaimer: I will not be held liable if he gets stuck on alexandrite path and has to actually obtain 50,000)

[Casey_]

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I think this is the japanese text for the quest.. can anyone translate it natively? google translate makes it into a bunch of gibberish..

[Narse]

I saw a lot of bad info about weapon farming, and I never saw it get corrected (though maybe I missed it):
...
Now I just have to get the people in my group their weapons (lucked out and had a correct one drop when I cleared the first time), which I can now do 100% accurately each win, instead of a random shot at a random weapon.

this is dumb and a waste of your points if those people don't have a Runic Key. you should only get people weapons who are serious about doing this (at least Captain Rank and working on Runic Key). your first priority now should be to help everyone who wants to do this get their Runic Key and in the process you can build up Tokens for yourself.

Didn't say I was doing it now. Just that we will have that option when the time comes. It was what we were going to do initially before we had info, but now we will just get all members the Runic Key, see what weapons drop from those clears, and farm the appropriate weapons afterwards.

[Rem]

yea ._.

i myself is starting a einherjar group just for this shit ._.

If its early NA mornings, i'd be game if you'd have me <.<

If its late NA nights I'd also be game if you'd have me. >_>

[Zytar]

yea ._.

i myself is starting a einherjar group just for this shit ._.

If its early NA mornings, i'd be game if you'd have me <.<

If its late NA nights I'd also be game if you'd have me. >_>

copy cat <.<

[Arthars]

yea ._.

i myself is starting a einherjar group just for this shit ._.

Already on T3 myself. \o/ You could always look into joining LM or our runs but I assume you want to go with your ppl. We won't be back to T1s for a couple weeks anyways, need to kill Odin!

haha when i can, i'll prolly go leech some t3 feathers maybe

since dont need any pre-requirements to enter any tier for members now from what i heard/read XD

[Narse]

yea ._.

i myself is starting a einherjar group just for this shit ._.

Already on T3 myself. \o/ You could always look into joining LM or our runs but I assume you want to go with your ppl. We won't be back to T1s for a couple weeks anyways, need to kill Odin!

haha when i can, i'll prolly go leech some t3 feathers maybe

since dont need any pre-requirements to enter any tier for members now from what i heard/read XD

To my understanding (and I may be wrong), you need 1 feather from tier 1 to enter tier 2, one from tier 2 to enter tier 3, and one from all 3 to enter Odin. If you get all 9 feathers you get key item that will allow you to enter any tier without a feather of the preceding tier.

[Arthars]

im not sure myself too ;O but yesterday notes seems like can enter any Tier as long the lamp holder got the access(except odin chamber of course)

i may be wrong too ^^

[Dantrag]

pretty sure you can enter any and just get a tier w/e feather you just did but need all 3 for odin

[Jaybar]

Lamp holder needs all three chambers clear from a tier to move on (like we used to have) or the mark of Einherjar to enter any chamber.

[kareface]

Maybe you can turn the salvage currency into the NPC as you go (kinda like anc. beast coins). I agree that SE wouldn't be dumb enough to make you sit on the entire 50K currency.

[Narse]

Anyone know where, exactly, you pay 150k Nyzul tokens for this book?