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  1. #361
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    A rare drop off of the Pandemonium Warden (presumably the Kirin/AV of the new Zeni NM system) sounds likely.

  2. #362
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Another JP rumor bites the dust.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion
    How do you read out the dat dialogues?
    WG text is so big it's split into 2 files. Polutils only access' one atm. The 2nd file is ROM\186\97.dat (English). Just copy it and switch it with like north sandy or something to read it then change it back after.

  3. #363
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Check the guy at the nyzul desk? That galka dude.

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Actually I think I found the dialog from the whitegate salvage guy. I'll go chat with him later when I log back in to make sure (although I haven't activated the quests yet and don't have Gulool and Odin beaten so I might not be able to get it anyway).

    Well, if it isn't the 'ero of the remnants ?Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)?[herself/himself]!
    'Ow goes the treasure hunting??Prompt?

    If I'm not mistaken you're out looking for ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 01? ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 05?$??BAD CHAR: 80??BAD CHAR: 80?, right?
    Hehehe, you sure don't mess around, eh??Prompt?

    Hey, don't go getting all defensive about it.
    I make it my business to know these things.
    And that's not all I know.?Prompt?

    The info I've got is going to cost you. Hehehe.?Prompt?

    No, no, no.
    Forget about 'em assault points. Information this choice is going to demand a...different type o' currency.?Prompt?

    I wonder, 'ave you come to 'ear of ?Set Color #5?tokens?Set Color #1?, yet??Prompt?

    No doubt you're savvy to the Nyzul Isle Investigation, 'at slightly peculiar of assaults.
    Well, these tokens can only be obtained in those most unchartered of ruins.?Prompt?

    I think I've made it painfully obvious by now that I can never 'ave enough assault points.
    But truth be told, I am always interested in getting as many o' those tokens as I can as well.?Prompt?

    Unfortunately, they aren't nearly as easy to come across as the assault points.
    In fact, it's rare 'at I ever come across any of 'em. Bit of a predicament, it is...?Prompt?

    Funny thing about humans... Their desires certainly know no bounds.
    But that's not what you're 'ere to talk about.?Prompt?

    The ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 05?#??BAD CHAR: 80??BAD CHAR: 80?, right??Prompt?

    If you're really after one, I suppose I could get me 'ands on it for you.
    It's just going to cost you a certain number o' tokens, of course.?Prompt?

    I've got confidence in you though, ?Player Name?.
    You're probably already rolling in tokens as it is, am I right??Prompt?

    Well, it's kind o' difficult to put a number on something like 'at. But for the sake of argument, let's say...?Prompt?

    ?Numeric Parameter 2? tokens!?Prompt?

    Too pricey??Prompt?

    Well, if you really want one I reckon you'll be willin' to come up with 'em somehow.
    Stop on by anytime. I'll keep up my end.?Prompt?

    There's my favorite remnants romper!
    After ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 01? ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 05?$??BAD CHAR: 80??BAD CHAR: 80?, are you? Truth be told, I already had me 'ands on one before I ever 'eard you were looking.
    Sometimes I swear I'm blessed with the gift of foresight.?Prompt?

    I would 'ave said something to you sooner, but it just seemed a bit uncouth of me to be rubbing your nose in it by pointing it out.
    Hehehe.?Prompt?

    So, let's get down to brass tacks. You looking to trade your tokens for this 'ere ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 05?#??BAD CHAR: 80??BAD CHAR: 80???Prompt?

    Make sure you know you're getting into 'ere, all right?
    No refunds from me, ya 'ear??Prompt?

    Trade for the ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 05?#??BAD CHAR: 80??BAD CHAR: 80??
    ?Selection Dialog?Yes, please.
    No, thank you.?Prompt?

    You're absolutely sure about this?
    ?Selection Dialog?Don't make me say it again.
    On second thought...?Prompt?

    Deal! That settles it then. 'Em there tokens for this 'ere ?Possible Special Code: 01??Possible Special Code: 05?#??BAD CHAR: 80??BAD CHAR: 80?.
    No turning back now!?Prompt?

    Hey, what's the big idea here?!?
    You don't even 'ave the number o' tokens we agreed upon. I 'ope you aren't expecting me to front you.
    No layaway plans here, ?Player Name?.?Prompt?

    Oh, you gotta be kidding me.
    Look at 'em bags, for Altana's sake. You couldn't fit a 'unk o' rock salt in there, let alone 'is.
    Go get your act together and come back. Then maybe we can deal.?Prompt?

    Current number of tokens: ?Numeric Parameter 2?.?Prompt?

  5. #365
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    I feel so behind on this already, I need to kill Odin and 3 ToAU kings and I have 0 Therion Ichor, but I have like 50k tokens I think, would be above 100k but I used my runic to farm floors. If all the stuff in stage 2 is needed though, wow at how much that will suck

  6. #366
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    bingo, got a cutscene from zasshal. He talks about the copy of wyrmseeker areuhat
    150000 it is ;x

  7. #367
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Well, that's gay.

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Well, that's gay.
    Why? That's one of the easier ones.

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Well, that's gay.
    Why? that ensures people can't fuck over their nyzul static.

    fix'd, but seriously all of these tasks are very doable and I'd much rather do these than buy currency, cept for the whole bit needing 50,000 alexandrite. Otherwise I'm sure most people could get the other 3 objectives done in prolly 5-6 months(as a group, not singularly).

  10. #370
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Well, lets ignore the 50,000 Alexandrite criteria and look at the rest of the conditions:

    - 150k Nyzul Tokens (150 days simply farming if you start on floor 1 and assume 1k tokens average gain)
    - Complete all assaults again (50 assaults assuming no losses 50 days)
    - 100k Einherjar Ampoules (Assume 1.5k per 3 day average, that means in a day you get .5/day on average - 200 days)

    Honestly this seems to suggest that clearing only 1 option isn't the case. If that were the situation, the Assault path is the easiest by far (2/3 of assaults can be done with 3 skilled people) taking much less than half of the time that the other 2 require while giving better side-rewards than the other 2.

    Anyone else find it odd that by my ballparked average (which I think to be a fairly accurate estimate derived from data before I came to this conclusion) that Nyzul+Assaults (same timer, Assault Tags) takes roughly the same amount of time as 100k Einherjar Ampoules?

    EDITeople seem to forget that

    Yooo done all three jobs Empress ask for!
    Paparoon very impressed!?Prompt?

    could simply be refering to all 4 tasks as 1 job. Making that the third job completed.

    EDIT2: I just realized there's a fairly big flaw in my logic. There's no reason why you couldn't simply have someone else use their disk and do high level floors to get more than 1k tokens a clear and get leadership yourself. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to pull down 2k tokens or more a run towards your nyzul weapon if you did that.

    The Einherjar tokens are still the limiting factor (also consider it's going to be 1.5k tokens per 3 1/2 days for the average player, making it 3k per 7 days, and more days to get 100k ampoules.)

  11. #371
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Well, that's gay.
    Why? That's one of the easier ones.
    By itself it is, but when you consider that you'll likely be using your tags on redoing assaults and collecting points for your 50,000 Alexandrite, it's more shit already on what amounts to being like 27 years worth of Salvaging.

  12. #372
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    I don't know if this has been asked or not, but on floor 100. Can you just let time run out or warp out (via d2, cudgel, scroll) to keep your disk data after beating the boss, or is it still wiped?

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    so its true then.....150k token that it hahaha

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zytar
    I don't know if this has been asked or not, but on floor 100. Can you just let time run out or warp out (via d2, cudgel, scroll) to keep your disk data after beating the boss, or is it still wiped?
    Wipes after boss is killed

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zytar
    I don't know if this has been asked or not, but on floor 100. Can you just let time run out or warp out (via d2, cudgel, scroll) to keep your disk data after beating the boss, or is it still wiped?
    it wipes as soon as the boss dies. so you can not time out, but you can warp out with any item or spell or simply use the fireflies provided to you to leave before the boss dies.

  16. #376
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    I don't know if this has been said yet but was wonder if someone with 2 of the Nyzul isle weapons and the ability to get to the rat quest could turn in one of the weapons that they don't like. Then give the rat a piece of alexanderite sp? to see if he keeps a running totally or if something happens.

    Then trade in your weapon the one that you do like/wish to upgrade to see if you get the other weapon back.

    could kill 2 birds with 1 stone sorta deal.

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    I can confirm the rat holds Alexandrite, and he will tell you how many more you need to go upon trading him. At this point we just need someone to turn in a Wyrmseeker book and see what happens, as this will be the thing that people complete first. Any of the other options will most likely have at least a 2 month waiting period; someone out there I'm sure has 150k Nyzul tokens already, with runic key + weapon and all the fight clears.

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    did handing in 1 alexandrite just take it to 49999? or did each alexandrite drop it by more than 1?

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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    One other misc thing. In whitegate text data the list of bard memories to recall lists "An Imperial Heist" parts 1-5. Nashmau bard lists "Duties, Tasks, and Deeds" parts 1-2, and WG also has "Forging a New Myth". Cutscenes can't be replayed until the entire quest or mission is completed right? Which could imply that the third quest can be finished currently.

  20. #380
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    Re: Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

    I have a question for people who know about .dat file formats and monitoring files. As someone already pointed out, in the "Ability Names" file (as it's called in POLUtils) the new WSs are named by the jobs that use them, and there are no descriptions in the corresponding files. However, Pebbles had told me in the past that often when SE switches to a new file or file format they just leave the old one in there rather than remove or replace it. Is there any way for someone to tell whether those files are still in use ingame? If so it would suggest as others have proposed that the quest is not intended to be completed in the near-term.

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