Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

[Starr]

Balestarius
DMG:88 Delay:504 VIT+8 Physical damage taken -8 Campaign: Occasionally attacks twice
Lv. 74 WAR

?

is that -8% or actually 8?

[Septimus]

Balestarius
DMG:88 Delay:504 VIT+8 Physical damage taken -8 Campaign: Occasionally attacks twice
Lv. 74 WAR

?

is that -8% or actually 8?

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Balestarius

The -8 is verbatim from the dat files.

[Purrrfect]

A better comparison would be trading in Moat Carps for a Lu Shang.

A better comparison would be like trading Maat's Caps for a Lu Shang.

Winner.

[Khamsin]

A better comparison would be trading in Moat Carps for a Lu Shang.

A better comparison would be like trading Maat's Caps for a Lu Shang.

Or Maat's Caps for a Bamboo Fishing Rod.

Until they add stats, at least.

[Phraust]

Might be a gag request too. Wasn't there something abotu Naja wanting 100,000 Imperial Gold pieces for glory crown or some shit?

[Therin]

Might be a gag request too. Wasn't there something abotu Naja wanting 100,000 Imperial Gold pieces for glory crown or some shit?

Wow, this is an amazing discovery.

[Narse]

Might be a gag request too. Wasn't there something abotu Naja wanting 100,000 Imperial Gold pieces for glory crown or some shit?

Wow, this is an amazing discovery.

And when you traded Naja a gold coin she tallied it and said you have 99,999 gold coins remaining?


..owait, that's right. It's quite clear that you don't really give her coins to get the crown back, whilst this on the otherhand accepts your offerings and you clearly do need to use the alexandrite to complete the quest. Whether or not it'll remain 50,000 will be seen I s'pose...

[Therin]

Might be a gag request too. Wasn't there something abotu Naja wanting 100,000 Imperial Gold pieces for glory crown or some shit?

Wow, this is an amazing discovery.

And when you traded Naja a gold coin she tallied it and said you have 99,999 gold coins remaining?


..owait, that's right. It's quite clear that you don't really give her coins to get the crown back, whilst this on the otherhand accepts your offerings and you clearly do need to use the alexandrite to complete the quest. Whether or not it'll remain 50,000 will be seen I s'pose...

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

[Narse]

Might be a gag request too. Wasn't there something abotu Naja wanting 100,000 Imperial Gold pieces for glory crown or some shit?

Wow, this is an amazing discovery.

And when you traded Naja a gold coin she tallied it and said you have 99,999 gold coins remaining?


..owait, that's right. It's quite clear that you don't really give her coins to get the crown back, whilst this on the otherhand accepts your offerings and you clearly do need to use the alexandrite to complete the quest. Whether or not it'll remain 50,000 will be seen I s'pose...

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

Sorry, quoted wrong person. Was directed towards the guy who thought this may have some kind of relevance.

[Ciric]

About the 50000 alexandrites, considering they stack to 99, it takes 50000/99= 506 inventory slots to hold them.
Considering a player have 230 slots total, there are either 100s and 1000s, or it's clearly a mistake.

unless i totally missed something..

80 safe + 80 storage + 80 locker + 70 inventory = 310 slots >.>

[Lordshin]

About the 50000 alexandrites, considering they stack to 99, it takes 50000/99= 506 inventory slots to hold them.
Considering a player have 230 slots total, there are either 100s and 1000s, or it's clearly a mistake.

unless i totally missed something..

80 safe + 80 storage + 80 locker + 70 inventory = 310 slots >.>

he;s talking about how many slots 50,000 alexandrites would take... not the amount of space we have
i dont know if you meant to bold the "230 slots total" instead but yeah

[Yutuyu]

It's really disappointing that Square-Enix did their best to be obtuse about the Nyzul Relic instead of just freely admitting what we need to do. It's obviously that we don't actually need to collect a full 50,000 but since we don't know what we NEED to do, it's hard for people to decide if they want to go for the weapon or not. And they didn't even give us the motivation of knowing the weapon's stats to drive us forward; we have no idea whatsoever what the final result of these weapon upgrades is going to be other than the WS Animation.

Just seems like they rushed ahead with this content before it was finished (and really, it should've been by now, these events have been out year+) as an excuse to recycle old combat systems and keep us playing ToAU longer while looking the other way at the shitty WotG expansion.

[Virtuous Saint]

How do you see stats on weapons, other than getting one? I don't think they want people to .dat mine exactly. However, maybe you mean show weapons, and all of their stats pre-update. IDK

[Lordender]

It's really disappointing that Square-Enix did their best to be obtuse about the Nyzul Relic instead of just freely admitting what we need to do. It's obviously that we don't actually need to collect a full 50,000 but since we don't know what we NEED to do, it's hard for people to decide if they want to go for the weapon or not. And they didn't even give us the motivation of knowing the weapon's stats to drive us forward; we have no idea whatsoever what the final result of these weapon upgrades is going to be other than the WS Animation.

Just seems like they rushed ahead with this content before it was finished (and really, it should've been by now, these events have been out year+) as an excuse to recycle old combat systems and keep us playing ToAU longer while looking the other way at the shitty WotG expansion.

You shouldn't be surprised, its not the first time SE went down the vague path nor will it be the last time. Almost all of their content is rushed hence why the players complain for months, sometimes years before they go back and make some sort of adjustment that should have been there in the first place.

As for WoTG idk if people can really complain, yes WoTG is very shitty but people wanted a completed ToAU which seems what everyone got in this patch. The crystal war didn't last very long in vana'diel history so SE has to drag it out as much as possible.

[Yutuyu]

You shouldn't be surprised, its not the first time SE went down the vague path nor will it be the last time. Almost all of their content is rushed hence why the players complain for months, sometimes years before they go back and make some sort of adjustment that should have been there in the first place.

Yeah, you're right. This is the same old SE nonsense. Assuming they've changed at all because the Einherjar fix and ZNM system is probably a mistake.

As for WoTG idk if people can really complain, yes WoTG is very shitty but people wanted a completed ToAU which seems what everyone got in this patch. The crystal war didn't last very long in vana'diel history so SE has to drag it out as much as possible.

I think we can complain about WotG.

1) The Crystal War wasn't that short, and certainly isn't this boring.

It was actually 2 years. There's lots of interesting storyline points within the war itself that really capture some exciting themes. The Siege of Jeuno, the 300 Norvalien Knights defending Davoi, destruction of Tavnazia, battle of Xarcabard. They just haven't tried very hard. They seem to be avoiding having any serious storyline portions of the war actually happening before the player's eyes.

With assault-style tech they could've easily generatied some of these interesting battles. All we've gotten is besieged-style fighting which doesn't feel climatic at all; just boring and repetitive after a bit.

2) It's been 7 months since WotG's release.

To date they've managed to crank out a record of 8 actual missions. Before people go including the 4 quests per nation in these missions, you need to realize that yes, they're related, but they ALSO skimped on the amount of quests given in WotG in order to make up for it.

So far there's a grand total of 1 actual fight in all of the missions, which can be trio'd. We keep hearing about hwo every expansion is for endgamers before its released; but so far I can't find a single indication that that's actually the case about WotG. Its missions are actually even EASIER than ToAU's.

[Loziel]

You shouldn't be surprised, its not the first time SE went down the vague path nor will it be the last time. Almost all of their content is rushed hence why the players complain for months, sometimes years before they go back and make some sort of adjustment that should have been there in the first place.

Yeah, you're right. This is the same old SE nonsense. Assuming they've changed at all because the Einherjar fix and ZNM system is probably a mistake.

As for WoTG idk if people can really complain, yes WoTG is very shitty but people wanted a completed ToAU which seems what everyone got in this patch. The crystal war didn't last very long in vana'diel history so SE has to drag it out as much as possible.

I think we can complain about WotG.

1) The Crystal War wasn't that short, and certainly isn't this boring.

It was actually 2 years. There's lots of interesting storyline points within the war itself that really capture some exciting themes. The Siege of Jeuno, the 300 Norvalien Knights defending Davoi, destruction of Tavnazia, battle of Xarcabard. They just haven't tried very hard. They seem to be avoiding having any serious storyline portions of the war actually happening before the player's eyes.

With assault-style tech they could've easily generatied some of these interesting battles. All we've gotten is besieged-style fighting which doesn't feel climatic at all; just boring and repetitive after a bit.

2) It's been 7 months since WotG's release.

To date they've managed to crank out a record of 8 actual missions. Before people go including the 4 quests per nation in these missions, you need to realize that yes, they're related, but they ALSO skimped on the amount of quests given in WotG in order to make up for it.

So far there's a grand total of 1 actual fight in all of the missions, which can be trio'd. We keep hearing about hwo every expansion is for endgamers before its released; but so far I can't find a single indication that that's actually the case about WotG. Its missions are actually even EASIER than ToAU's.

We are getting pretty off topic here but i just want to say one thing. This update has been HUGE imo, and has shedloads of new content, TOAU seems to be totally finished now and the majority of this recent patch was for that purpose. I think if anything Epic is to come from WOTG, it is yet to come. enough QQ for now, lets just enjoy what we have been given for the moment, i fully expect the next patch to be 95% focused on WOTG and we will see a lot more story, hydra corps, northlands etc

[Lordender]

1) The Crystal War wasn't that short, and certainly isn't this boring.

It was actually 2 years. There's lots of interesting storyline points within the war itself that really capture some exciting themes. The Siege of Jeuno, the 300 Norvalien Knights defending Davoi, destruction of Tavnazia, battle of Xarcabard. They just haven't tried very hard. They seem to be avoiding having any serious storyline portions of the war actually happening before the player's eyes.

The war had already been going on for around 6months when we first went into the past.

[Sho]

Yo guys, not totally sure if anyone pointed this out but, there's a 2nd set of relics in the dats that are all totally blank of data. (All are Level 75, dmg 1, delay 240)

On PoLUtils, you can see them right after Kenkonken [ID: 00004A2C (18988)], and just before Brass Grip [00004A41 (19009)]. They might be placeholders for the actual relics, and not the crap we are looking at right now~ Check it out.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8130/relickzgx1.png

[Ahnuld]

Yo guys, not totally sure if anyone pointed this out but, there's a 2nd set of relics in the dats that are all totally blank of data. (All are Level 75, dmg 1, delay 240)

On PoLUtils, you can see them right after Kenkonken [ID: 00004A2C (18988)], and just before Brass Grip [00004A41 (19009)]. They might be placeholders for the actual relics, and not the crap we are looking at right now~ Check it out.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8130/relickzgx1.png

That's Interesting.

[Xanthu]

the 300 Norvalien Knights defending Davoi,

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6915/sparta003fq6.jpg