Nyzul Relics require Runic Key (100 data wiped)

[ronin sparthos]

But why have a unique skin weapon if they arent meant to be completed yet? and why have the relic weaponskills in the game if it wasnt meant to be completed?

and of course... how is this easier than ROTZ relics SE?

have you tried to do a rotz relic?

Besides the obvious upfront money costs how is this easier? For Zilart relic all you need is the currency, the frag and the attestation.

When money is involved, you have infinite ways of going about getting your relic - with this from what i read you have to clear all of nyzul, have clear all assaults, have to get 50000 alexandrite, have log all your assaults over again, have get a 100k ichor item and down NMs that average players arent going to kill. (I thought the whole point of this was an easier system with a weaker relic?)

Im not going to knock the system yet, but this seems to be a long and protracted affair and im just asking how this is 'easier' - easier as in simpler than zilart relic, which SE said this would be.

[Hyan]

Man this quest sounds like everything I had hoped for! No currency BS, but still time consuming..it's great

[Yutuyu]

Man this quest sounds like everything I had hoped for! No currency BS, but still time consuming..it's great

Alexandrite. Is it ex/rare?

[Arthars]

from the log it seems the 5 memoooooos that qiqirn wants are from each area, which i guess is from the first lieutenant assaults?

gotta go play hydra and see if theres such things ._.

[Pergo]

He said something about bring back 5 titles from assault. Any ideas? :/

Maybe you need to see him with 5 different Assault titles? Corporal, Chief Sergeant, etc. Worth a shot >_>

Have you tried this yet? ;

i posted this, directly from the dats, a page ago.....

Trade the blank memoire to the Rune of Release which appears following successful completion of an Assault mission.
This will result in the relevant data being recorded to the pages within.
Completion of a memoire requires a player to clear all Assault missions spanning ranks Private Second Class to First Lieutenant in all relevant areas excepting Nyzul Isle, for which no memoire exists.
Loss or disposal of a memoire will result in the loss of any recorded data without the possibility of recovery.
Please exercise caution in this respect.
In the event of a lost memoire, the option to acquire a new one will appear on the NPC menu.

[Plow]

[quote=ronin sparthos]

But why have a unique skin weapon if they arent meant to be completed yet? and why have the relic weaponskills in the game if it wasnt meant to be completed?

and of course... how is this easier than ROTZ relics SE?

have you tried to do a rotz relic?

Besides the obvious upfront money costs how is this easier? For Zilart relic all you need is the currency, the frag and the attestation.

When money is involved, you have infinite ways of going about getting your relic - with this from what i read you have to clear all of nyzul, have clear all assaults, have to get 50000 alexandrite, have log all your assaults over again, have get a 100k ichor item and down NMs that average players arent going to kill. (I thought the whole point of this was an easier system with a weaker relic?)

Im not going to knock the system yet, but this seems to be a long and protracted affair and im just asking how this is 'easier' - easier as in simpler than zilart relic, which SE said this would be.[/quote:1ie7k0c0]


Well, for one they could have come to the conclusion that earning money is the hardest thing out of all of those to do in today's economy. These are the people who wouldn't let you alt+tab for 5 years, after all.


There's also the possibility that you may need to do all of these things once, and then be able to get whichever weapon you like much, much more easily.

[Mythe_Seraph]

50,000 seems a bit obsurd. My guess is there's probably going either be some way around this, or lowered fee after completing some of the other tasks.

[Attila]

I think this looks a lot more accessible than farming for forever trying to get currency.

Just b/c SE said it would be 'easier' or 'more accessible' doesn't mean it is going to happen immediately.

[Plow]

50,000 seems a bit obsurd. My guess is there's probably going either be some way around this, or lowered fee after completing some of the other tasks.

Instead of alexandrite, you turn in a tetra master alexander card.

[Redness]

50,000 seems a bit obsurd. My guess is there's probably going either be some way around this, or lowered fee after completing some of the other tasks.

If it does "drop" ala currency in Salvage or Nyzul Isle, perhaps it would drop in 100, and 1,000 increments?

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Giving SE way too much leeway, bet on 1's onry. Lol.

[Aymee]

Can we lock the thread and deem this a complete waste of time yet?

For things that were supposed to be roughly as strong as dynamis relics (since they said they'd be upgrading the dynarelics to make them still tops), I am entirely convinced that it would be easier to kill bees in NGust for beehive chips for gil to sponsor dynamis to get yourself the currency and/or collect 100M. Like, seriously. Who the hell thought this up? Hell, even if they do end up being by far the best things on the planet these are really stupid requirements. Kind of one of those lovely rich-get-richer deals.

Things are already stupidly bad, and we don't even know how many of 7 wyrms you need to kill, or wth Alexandrite is. This also runs us back to the old issue of AP assault (for Salvage) vs Nyzul, since it takes 20 days minimum to get 1 person a runic key even if you quit salvage altogether--despite having to beat the salvage bosses, which isn't something people do unless they actually need to.


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Oh, and irony for DRGs... you can scoop up a valk fork with complete ease compared to any of this nonsense. Even if you just like the look of it, it's cosmically ironic that it's now so easy to get in comparison.

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Seriously though, this completely kills the trend SE has kept the past 2 years or so about being able to do things in smaller groups. Even things meant for bigger groups people figured out how to lowman... it would seem you can lowman einherjar for points now (at least theoretically), but you can't lowman Odin, beastkings or wyrms.

This completely fails in every measurable way. Great job on the patch guys! Take 10 great new ideas you announced and instead give us a patch that actually has zero new content besides Cait Sith missions.

[Sho]

So you pretty much have to rape all aspects of endgame ToAU. That's a feat in itself if you think about it... alot bigger than just throwing gil at people for currency (something anyone can do with enough gil), and collecting a few Dynamis items.

[Mythe_Seraph]

Some people like challenges like this. Relics are not for everyone!

[Grey Jorildyn]

I'm sure I am not alone in that I have been holding onto currency with the promise that this update would bring some new weaponry that was comparable to RotZ relics. I understand completely that these are blanked out weapons and maybe in the near future we'll see what a completed one looks like on paper. Right now all we have to go on with those Nyzul weapons are the damage and delay and from what we can see right now, it's fairly pitiful.

Take Bravura and Conqueror for example:
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/f/fa/Bravura.jpg

vs.

Conqueror RareExclusive
(Great Axe) All Races
DMG: 93 Delay: 504
Lv. 75 WAR

Damage 99/Delay 488 vs. Damage 93/Delay 504 does not seem like a promising comparison with the downright ridiculous amount of work that needs to be done to obtain the newer weapon. I personally think it's kinda cool that they made it such an epic "quest" to prove yourself worthy of wielding such a weapon, but it just seems to me like whatever they decide to fill in on that Conqueror, it's never going to be a Bravura. It's already handicapped pretty bad.

Maybe SE has something else up their sleeve? I wanna be optimistic about this as Conqueror is well within my reach, but is it going to be worth it? Hmm...

[Spira]

SE needs to know that people might look forward to the new weapons more if they KNEW THE FUCKIGN STATS

[Robian]

Alexandrite seems like it comes from Nyzle or Salvage.

If it comes from salvage im gonna cry lol - I just got done with that !!!

Just had an alexandrite drop from a gear on 6F Zhayolm Remnants >_>

[TT]

1/50000! Your on your way.

[BerenTebogo]

Some people like challenges like this. Relics are not for everyone!

Bullshit requirements or not, absolute pain in the ass or not, I want to offhand another relic, so I'll be doing this.

[Mythe_Seraph]

Some people like challenges like this. Relics are not for everyone!

Bullshit requirements or not, absolute pain in the ass or not, I want to offhand another relic, so I'll be doing this.

Agree'd.

[Tyrath]

He said something about bring back 5 titles from assault. Any ideas? :/

Maybe you need to see him with 5 different Assault titles? Corporal, Chief Sergeant, etc. Worth a shot >_>

Have you tried this yet? ;

i posted this, directly from the dats, a page ago.....

Trade the blank memoire to the Rune of Release which appears following successful completion of an Assault mission.
This will result in the relevant data being recorded to the pages within.
Completion of a memoire requires a player to clear all Assault missions spanning ranks Private Second Class to First Lieutenant in all relevant areas excepting Nyzul Isle, for which no memoire exists.
Loss or disposal of a memoire will result in the loss of any recorded data without the possibility of recovery.
Please exercise caution in this respect.
In the event of a lost memoire, the option to acquire a new one will appear on the NPC menu.

Uh...personally the worst part of this to me seems redoing all assaults again >_>