Footwork - New MNK JA info

[Meian]

I am not seeing the difference in Asuran Fists damage with Dune Boots compared to Marine M Boots ;; You sure this is true?

[Builttolast]

While haste gear seems to have no effect you can be slowed and it's painful. I'm hoping the haste is an oversight, I haven't been able to test with magic haste or march yet hopefully someone who knows an rdm or bard could test.

[Shassira]

Some interesting info:

13 TP per kick gained but 6% TP give to monster from each kick, according to my /bst <pettp> after a single hit. Yes, i'm not getting hit in my tests.

Edit: From what i see, you just get more TP return for the same TP given to a mob per hit at the expenses of attack rounds. I dunno... i'm not seeing the point. My kicks hit just like a single punch. I guess it's good to build TP on mobs.

[Deftscythe]

Adding +11 STP did not increase tp gained from my kicks.

[Neosutra]

I read a post that this JA increases recast, can anyone comfirm?

If so then this JA will probably be a once every 5 minutes AF boost only for me Q.Q, unless someone can find a better use.

/equip Dune Boots
/ja Footwork
/ja boost

/ws AF.

Kinda hoping it does increase recast, as I dont want to take off my usu set for TP Q.Q

[Frisk]

I do not apporve of this new JA.

It goes against everything MNK stands for.

I threw away my mellee hose and dune boots for a reason...

Dear SE, we all know that you guys love to suck samurai cock, but please stop trying to make MNK like sam. If we wanted that, we would just visit our moogle and switch to sam job...

Thanks a lot.... FOR NOTHING.

[Shassira]

I read a post that this JA increases recast, can anyone comfirm?

If so then this JA will probably be a once a minute AF boost only for me Q.Q, unless someone can find a better use.

/equip Dune Boots
/ja Footwork
/ja boost

/ws AF.

Kinda hoping it does increase recast, as I dont want to take off my usu set for TP Q.Q

I'm unsure i understand your 1 min AF boost plan but let me throw some numbers anyway:

Utsu recast with Footwork on: 1:05
Without footwork: :0:38
(same haste gear, i just didn't bother removing it)

Footwork's recast time is 5:00, acts like counterstance, it also lasts 5:00. Can be kept on full time but can't be cancelled and re aplied effectively like hasso.

Testing Subtle blow next D:

[Tsutsumiko]

I am not seeing the difference in Asuran Fists damage with Dune Boots compared to Marine M Boots ;; You sure this is true?

I'm not seeing one with Marine F Boots either. . .

However, I'm seeing this ridiculous 43~48% TP returns and it's making me think something is VERY VERY wrong...

[Khajit]

I'm not a mnk so i cant test this out but has anyone thought to test out how the base dmg on your h2h affects things?
hades santi, wagh,ect might have just gotten better if the destroyers crit rate doesnt factor in for HNM/chariot fights at least

[Crosis]

My Ni timer was 1:01 with Footwork and Haste gear but no magic Haste or March. I took off haste gear and it was 1:08, so Haste from gear I'd assume plays some part into Footwork but not much.

[Shassira]

Ok, Subtle Blow affects TP give to mob as expected. 9 Subtle Blow (Raja's and AF2 gloves) lowers it to 5% with whatever decimals, I just assume it works as normal.

Edit: Cause i can't add.

[Tsutsumiko]

Uhhh... MNK/SAM or MNK with SAM in the party, tons of Store TP gear, COR to use SAM's Roll, and a high delay weapon.

Is a 2 kick build possible? Someone want to test this and see if it is possible?

[devildrifterX]

not sure if i did this technically the right way but here it goes ;x

without weapon on and haste gear, it took exactly 8 seconds to get off my next attack using footwork, so since 60 delay = 1 second then the new delay is 480 without any haste gear on and
not counting destroyers (this is butt nekkid)

Absolutely no accuracy bonus that i can see of, but now i think we just opened up alot better hand options for HNMs possibly (which is what i think this is geared at) Hades Saniti/Waghs come to mind

[Frisk]

Uhhh... MNK/SAM or MNK with SAM in the party, tons of Store TP gear, COR to use SAM's Roll, and a high delay weapon.

Is a 2 kick build possible? Someone want to test this and see if it is possible?

I think you missed the post that stated Footwork JA is not active unless you are sporting h2h.

Which makes me mad cuz I just go retribution for my mnk staff, and woulda loved to fuck around with a different setups...

but hey, SE , THANKS AGAIN FOR NOTHING ASSHOLES....

[Apelila]

I can't test right now, but does the HTH weapon delay effect your kick rate delay at all? Like, if you HTH Delay 0 Weapon is there any effect?

Also, anyone tested with /DRK?

[Tsutsumiko]

Uhhh... MNK/SAM or MNK with SAM in the party, tons of Store TP gear, COR to use SAM's Roll, and a high delay weapon.

Is a 2 kick build possible? Someone want to test this and see if it is possible?

I think you missed the post that stated Footwork JA is not active unless you are sporting h2h.

Which makes me mad cuz I just go retribution for my mnk staff, and woulda loved to fuck around with a different setups...

but hey, SE , THANKS AGAIN FOR NOTHING ASSHOLES....

I'm not saying you shouldn't use a H2H weapon. Use a high delay one though, like Indra Katars...gives better TP cause of high delay (Guessing of course). And then just max out on a crap load of Store TP. I really think a 2 Hit build is possible (Or at least this is based on Geno's Math)

[Tempyst]

Uhhh... MNK/SAM or MNK with SAM in the party, tons of Store TP gear, COR to use SAM's Roll, and a high delay weapon.

Is a 2 kick build possible? Someone want to test this and see if it is possible?

I think you missed the post that stated Footwork JA is not active unless you are sporting h2h.

Which makes me mad cuz I just go retribution for my mnk staff, and woulda loved to fuck around with a different setups...

but hey, SE , THANKS AGAIN FOR NOTHING ASSHOLES....

here's an idea

don't use it

it's optional

[Neosutra]

I can't test right now, but does the HTH weapon delay effect your kick rate delay at all? Like, if you HTH Delay 0 Weapon is there any effect?

Also, anyone tested with /DRK?

No effect on delay with relic knuckles or destroyers.

This JA blows, someone PLEASE prove me wrong.

[Frisk]

Uhhh... MNK/SAM or MNK with SAM in the party, tons of Store TP gear, COR to use SAM's Roll, and a high delay weapon.

Is a 2 kick build possible? Someone want to test this and see if it is possible?

I think you missed the post that stated Footwork JA is not active unless you are sporting h2h.

Which makes me mad cuz I just go retribution for my mnk staff, and woulda loved to fuck around with a different setups...

but hey, SE , THANKS AGAIN FOR NOTHING ASSHOLES....

here's an idea

don't use it

it's optional

I was planning on using it, but then I found out how much it sucked, so yeah I won't be using it, so thanks for the reiterationl.. DICK!

[Tempyst]

Uhhh... MNK/SAM or MNK with SAM in the party, tons of Store TP gear, COR to use SAM's Roll, and a high delay weapon.

Is a 2 kick build possible? Someone want to test this and see if it is possible?

I think you missed the post that stated Footwork JA is not active unless you are sporting h2h.

Which makes me mad cuz I just go retribution for my mnk staff, and woulda loved to fuck around with a different setups...

but hey, SE , THANKS AGAIN FOR NOTHING ASSHOLES....

here's an idea

don't use it

it's optional

I was planning on using it, but then I found out how much it sucked, so yeah I won't be using it, so thanks for the reiterationl.. DICK!

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