Footwork - New MNK JA info

[Cream Soda]

No waghs on the AH atm, so I'm going to go to my next pt as /war (lol utsu recast) and primarily use counterstance and Footwork.

[Builttolast]

There is one major flaw with this JA, the recast is too long. Having your stance dispelled is fine, just not when you have to wait 4:30 to reuse it (because you just did). Make it shorter, please.

[SamanosukeShiva]

I'm going to try martial once it's up on AH, until then I'll test around with what I have, (Indra Katar, Avengers, Hades Sainti)

[SamanosukeShiva]

anyone tested yet if haste equip/spells/weapon delay affect the kicks delay or not

[Acturus]

anyone tested yet if haste equip/spells affect the kicks delay or not

Some data is in the thread.

[Cream Soda]

I'm going to try martial once it's up on AH, until then I'll test around with what I have, (Indra Katar, Avengers, Hades Sainti)

Unless your primary WS of choice is DK or HF, Martial wont' do anything but add a lil acc on AF.

[SamanosukeShiva]

yeah I find DK incredibly strong now with footwork, I'll be using that for footwork mode

[Sechs]

Fun weapons to use while Footworking could be Hades Sainti, Indra Katars (would the triple attack work? x_X), Wagh Baghnaks, TM Hooks, Avengers, Martial Knuckles (supposing it works?), Shiva's Claws uhm... Can't think of anything else.

Well of course the new weapon too, but who knows how to get it.


I'm really curious to hear from some Relic-wielding monk how does Footwork performs with Final Heaven :D

[Cream Soda]

I can confirm that the additional effect of Boreas cesti don't work with Footwork.

[Builttolast]

yeah I find DK incredibly strong now with footwork, I'll be using that for footwork mode

Damage on tougher campaign mobs (like NMs) is up about significantly. Instead of low 300-400s I was hitting consistent 500-800s with dragon kick. Needs more testing on HNMs but I think it may be just for that purpose, which is all I have asked for since we lost our niche a few years back.

[Raithen]

Fun weapons to use while Footworking could be Hades Sainti, Indra Katars (would the triple attack work? x_X), Wagh Baghnaks, TM Hooks, Avengers, Martial Knuckles (supposing it works?), Shiva's Claws

Tried footwork with Faith Baghnakhs and never used a single Virtue Stone. It is then very likely that Indra Katars would not work and almost certain the crit rate on Destroyers does nothing (I think we all assumed this already). I have also tried Footwork weaponskills with my Martial Knuckles and they appeared unaffected. I will try testing some more soon now that Sneak Attack has been fixed to see if my Howling Fists and Dragon Kicks actually receive the TP Bonus. I will be very disappointed if they do not, but I am not hopeful.

[Builttolast]

I got 26 TP from howling fist and 35 from raging fist. I expect it's either a bug in the code for the stance or it's intentional. I'm betting option A but hoping for option B.

[Ryuushin]

A friend mentioned that /nin with footwork on is pretty bad with utsusemi recast so you could do

MNK/SAM with Jupiter's staff for 15% crit rate and you can Hasso or even Seigan lol

[Max™]

A friend mentioned that /nin with footwork on is pretty bad with utsusemi recast so you could do

MNK/SAM with Jupiter's staff for 15% crit rate and you can Hasso or even Seigan lol

Only works with HTH. Crit + weapons don't seem to affect the kicks.

[Epical]

So, anyone care to cliffs this thread so far? Is footwork > regular punchie MNK? Or are people still figuring that out? Any meripos been parsed?

[Cream Soda]

So, anyone care to cliffs this thread so far? Is footwork > regular punchie MNK? Or are people still figuring that out? Any meripos been parsed?

My parser was broken in the update, but I can say that Footwork is definitely gimp in meripo. Just merited in it for almost 2 hours. The DoT seemed really low and extremely random. Would hit for 100 sometimes and then sometimes for 160 and anywhere in between. Also, haste gear, spell, and march seemed to have little to no effect whatsoever. WS dmg was slightly increased, but didn't see any good numbers on DK unless it DA'd. Asuran seemed a little better, averaging in the 1k range.

[SamanosukeShiva]

Martial Knucks TP bonus stacks with dragon kick, so hot!!!

[HKR]

So has anyone tested how well the new boots compare to the old kick boots? I have a pair of wulong shoes I've been using for TP, and I'm not noticing the new boots are starting to appear on the AH.

Of course, since there's already like 4 of each, I'm not bidding now because I know the price will drop radically within the next few days/weeks.

[Sechs]

I got 26 TP from howling fist and 35 from raging fist. I expect it's either a bug in the code for the stance or it's intentional. I'm betting option A but hoping for option B.

Once again I fail at understanding, I feel so stupid...
Why do you think there's something wrong?
Howling Fist looks ok. 26 TP is 13 x2, isn't that the amount we should normally get?
And 35 hit is... well it looks like a likely number. It's 5 hit. Considering Asuran gives you 43 with 8 hits, it sounds likely that Raging Fists gives you back 35 with 5 hits, or am I missing something?

[Epical]

So, anyone care to cliffs this thread so far? Is footwork > regular punchie MNK? Or are people still figuring that out? Any meripos been parsed?

My parser was broken in the update, but I can say that Footwork is definitely gimp in meripo. Just merited in it for almost 2 hours. The DoT seemed really low and extremely random. Would hit for 100 sometimes and then sometimes for 160 and anywhere in between. Also, haste gear, spell, and march seemed to have little to no effect whatsoever. WS dmg was slightly increased, but didn't see any good numbers on DK unless it DA'd. Asuran seemed a little better, averaging in the 1k range.

Cool, thanks. Seeing those Ixion DK shots in the other thread may actually mean MNK can have two separate, yet legitimate builds!