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  1. #501
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Yeah correct, a PLD who wasn't me, from our LS had hate, and it drew in our ally despite the other LS still actively fighting it.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Only the alliance that currently has hate when Doomvoid is used will be drawn in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caiti
    Confirmed another LS having claim, but you having hate on it (it hitting you) will get you in on doomvoid.
    Uh, yeah? That's what I just said.
    The 'alliance' that got in didn't have hate, just one guy. Your post makes it look like you're saying the alliance with claim gets in.
    Saying "the alliance that has hate" is not the same as saying "the alliance that has claim". If you think that's what I was saying you clearly don't understand how this game works. @_@

    Think of this like Fafnir. If one guy cures the alliance with claim, his whole alliance gets hate (meaning they can all be AoE'd). It works precisely the same.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    I can somewhat support this claim, 2 days ago I pulled sandworm and lost claim, another LS got it, me and a PLD had hate on him and got drawn in when he used Doomvoid but was not sucked in.

  4. #504
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Two questions:
    1)
    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Yeah correct, a PLD who wasn't me, from our LS had hate, and it drew in our ally despite the other LS still actively fighting it.
    I don't do HNM much so I don't understand this mechanic, I've heard a PLD will cure + Invincible to steal hate, but that leaves the other alliance with claim and that PLD with the most emnity on that mob leaving it to attack that outside PLD?

    2)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon
    I can somewhat support this claim, 2 days ago I pulled sandworm and lost claim, another LS got it, me and a PLD had hate on him and got drawn in when he used Doomvoid but was not sucked in.
    So instead of the Alliance2 in my example getting sucked into the Everbloom Hollow or wherever, they would only be Drawn-In(Not zoning into another area)?

  5. #505
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by #686578
    Two questions:
    1)
    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Yeah correct, a PLD who wasn't me, from our LS had hate, and it drew in our ally despite the other LS still actively fighting it.
    I don't do HNM much so I don't understand this mechanic, I've heard a PLD will cure + Invincible to steal hate, but that leaves the other alliance with claim and that PLD with the most emnity on that mob leaving it to attack that outside PLD?

    2)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon
    I can somewhat support this claim, 2 days ago I pulled sandworm and lost claim, another LS got it, me and a PLD had hate on him and got drawn in when he used Doomvoid but was not sucked in.
    So instead of the Alliance2 in my example getting sucked into the Everbloom Hollow or wherever, they would only be Drawn-In(Not zoning into another area)?
    Yeah the other ally had hate, but it attacks us, and all it's TP moves are directed at us, the other ally is just basically damaging and feeding it TP for you (in this case)

  6. #506
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by #686578
    Two questions:
    1)
    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Yeah correct, a PLD who wasn't me, from our LS had hate, and it drew in our ally despite the other LS still actively fighting it.
    I don't do HNM much so I don't understand this mechanic, I've heard a PLD will cure + Invincible to steal hate, but that leaves the other alliance with claim and that PLD with the most emnity on that mob leaving it to attack that outside PLD?

    2)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon
    I can somewhat support this claim, 2 days ago I pulled sandworm and lost claim, another LS got it, me and a PLD had hate on him and got drawn in when he used Doomvoid but was not sucked in.
    So instead of the Alliance2 in my example getting sucked into the Everbloom Hollow or wherever, they would only be Drawn-In(Not zoning into another area)?
    yes, that's exactly right.

    I doubt its possible to have someone outside of your alliance (with claim) get sucked into the bc anyway.

  7. #507
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    PLD got left behind today when Doomvoid went off, good thing we brought 2 more tanks I guess.

    Question for any shells that got Lambton Worm before the update:

    1. Before Worm popped did you kill (or know if other shells also killed) each of the three lesser NM's (Guivre, KA, Serket) before Lambton popped?

    2. Did any of the two Lesser NM's die twice before Lambton popped?

    Wondering if its possible if Lambton will only pop after each of the three lesser NMs are killed, and also if its possible to get more than one of the lesser NMs before Lambton. In other words, if Lambton could be a guaranteed 4 day pop provided each time the lesser NMs pop they die.

    It seems that a good number of servers all got Lambton on the same day or so last time, Fairy didnt get it last cycle but Serket was killed for the first time right before the maintenance.

    Edit: thats not how you spell lambton!

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron
    PLD got left behind today when Doomvoid went off, good thing we brought 2 more tanks I guess.

    Question for any shells that got Lamtomb Worm before the update:

    1. Before Worm popped did you kill (or know if other shells also killed) each of the three lesser NM's (Guivre, KA, Serket) before Lamtomb popped?

    2. Did any of the two Lesser NM's die twice before Lamtomb popped?

    Wondering if its possible if Lamtomb will only pop after each of the three lesser NMs are killed, and also if its possible to get more than one of the lesser NMs before Lambtom. In other words, if Lambtom could be a guaranteed 4 day pop provided each time the lesser NMs pop they die.
    We got 2 guivres in a row and then lambton worm right before maintanence.

    also just curious but have any drk's parsed with zahak mail yet?

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Killed both Guivres?

    Drk got our mail today but he went to bed after Guivre died.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod
    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron
    PLD got left behind today when Doomvoid went off, good thing we brought 2 more tanks I guess.

    Question for any shells that got Lamtomb Worm before the update:

    1. Before Worm popped did you kill (or know if other shells also killed) each of the three lesser NM's (Guivre, KA, Serket) before Lamtomb popped?

    2. Did any of the two Lesser NM's die twice before Lamtomb popped?

    Wondering if its possible if Lamtomb will only pop after each of the three lesser NMs are killed, and also if its possible to get more than one of the lesser NMs before Lambtom. In other words, if Lambtom could be a guaranteed 4 day pop provided each time the lesser NMs pop they die.
    We got 2 guivres in a row and then lambton worm right before maintanence.

    also just curious but have any drk's parsed with zahak mail yet?
    I don't know why DRK would use it ever. It's passable for Raging Rush and Penta Thrust macros but nothing else.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod
    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron
    PLD got left behind today when Doomvoid went off, good thing we brought 2 more tanks I guess.

    Question for any shells that got Lamtomb Worm before the update:

    1. Before Worm popped did you kill (or know if other shells also killed) each of the three lesser NM's (Guivre, KA, Serket) before Lamtomb popped?

    2. Did any of the two Lesser NM's die twice before Lamtomb popped?

    Wondering if its possible if Lamtomb will only pop after each of the three lesser NMs are killed, and also if its possible to get more than one of the lesser NMs before Lambtom. In other words, if Lambtom could be a guaranteed 4 day pop provided each time the lesser NMs pop they die.
    We got 2 guivres in a row and then lambton worm right before maintanence.

    also just curious but have any drk's parsed with zahak mail yet?
    I don't know why DRK would use it ever. It's passable for Raging Rush and Penta Thrust macros but nothing else.
    Nobody wanted it so it went freelot, even then only 3 people randomed and I only think one person was a serious roll >.>

    If what the poster said about two guivres is true then I guess Lambton Worm is just on the normal "King" day timer, 4+ days

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron
    Killed both Guivres?

    Drk got our mail today but he went to bed after Guivre died.
    yea we killed both

    edit: also we have only seen 1 sandworm since maintnance we killed one the day after main and camped it from the 20-25hr mark and still hasnt been seen since

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    I wouldn't use it for Penta Thrust

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    As far as I know on Caitsith server we went Serket-Serket-Lambton(timed out)-KA(Timed out)-Lambton. Was before maint. Haven't kept up on it since maint.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    I'd totally try out Zahak's for Raging Rush, Osode gave decent results, Osode + an extra Claymore grip should be pretty sweet if you don't have Ebody.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    I wouldn't use it for Penta Thrust
    Hence "passable" and not "best."

  17. #517
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Zahak Mail= Haubergeon for DRG

    And a nice alternative to Askar/Homam

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    erm Enkidu's Harness is more of a DRG's Haubergeon that this

  19. #519
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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...laga/vbelt.jpg

    Wow, linked that to the post in the media section cause... damn, that's stupidly cool.

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    Re: Sandworm Totally Swallows - Pics Inside!

    Oh shit.

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