NPC WOTG Access, Limit Break and new "Fellow Point" system

[Septimus]

OK, so I have been spending fellow points to glamorize my NPCs. The 11th tier seems to be Bison gear (at least the coat is, the rest of the set should be as well, but requires verification), but I am stumped about this new piece.

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I have seen this model before, and I do not think that it is implemented into the game yet. The strange thing is that my NPCs are going along the "Freestyle" path but this looks like it belongs to the "Mage gear" path.

Has anyone seen this particular armor before on the mage path? Otherwise I am going to guess that this is a continuation on the freestyle path.

Also, has anyone else been glamorizing their NPC's equipment? If so, please update the Fellow Equipment page on the Wiki, or post here, preferably with screenshots.

[Raithen]

I know this is blasphemous, but the OtherWiki seems to have the correct armors for each path...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...dilleKecks.jpg

Have been working on getting Radille's body up to Yasha Samue. Bison Kecks are definitely "Freestyle" 11.

Also this isn't related to armor, but has anyone hit level 70 Fellow yet to see if they use WSNM skills?

[Alistaire]

Someone should go do the limit break vs their npc and use a Soultrapper on em.

[Ryphen]

OK, so I have been spending fellow points to glamorize my NPCs. The 11th tier seems to be Bison gear (at least the coat is, the rest of the set should be as well, but requires verification), but I am stumped about this new piece.

[attachment=0:1diaew8o]NewArmor.jpg[/attachment:1diaew8o]

I have seen this model before, and I do not think that it is implemented into the game yet. The strange thing is that my NPCs are going along the "Freestyle" path but this looks like it belongs to the "Mage gear" path.

Has anyone seen this particular armor before on the mage path? Otherwise I am going to guess that this is a continuation on the freestyle path.

Also, has anyone else been glamorizing their NPC's equipment? If so, please update the Fellow Equipment page on the Wiki, or post here, preferably with screenshots.

It isn't part of the mage path. I finished doing that path and you get Errant gear and then Blessed gear. And yes, the otherwiki has a lot of the info already.

[Spider-Dan]

NPC healers are smart now! Oh so sweet.

Instead of waiting until you hit yellow and immediately casting C5, they regularly cast C3 when you are at ~85% HP.

It ain't Regen, but it's a start.

edit: It's actually even better than that... it casts C3 when you need it, or C4 if you need more than C3, only casting C5 when you need more life than a C4 will give. So simple, yet so awesome.

[Priran]

It's annoying as shit, my NPC keeps healing me after I change gear.

The AI needs to work on not wasting all the NPC's MP on casting enfeebles with 0% chance of landing and casting Haste on itself.

[Melios]

It's annoying as shit, my NPC keeps healing me after I change gear.

The AI needs to work on not wasting all the NPC's MP on casting enfeebles with 0% chance of landing and casting Haste on itself.

If only we could add "Gambits" to fellows?

[Raithen]

To reiterate that the OtherWiki seems to have the correct gear options listed, here's Bastok (Light Armor) 11, Luisant Haubert:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...lleHaubert.jpg

Also in regard to the amount of experience required for NPCs to level up post-65, when Radille hit level 66 I counted how many monsters (lv76-78, difference 10-12) it took for her to hit the ~20-40% exp level. She took 28 monsters to get to 20%, if she was getting 300 exp per kill she would have 8400 experience. If 8400 experience was exactly 20% of her level, the total required for 66-67 would be 42000. It seems really weird that SE would bump the exp/level higher than PCs when all previous levels were equal.

Has anyone else recorded the amount of experience it took to level above 65?

[Spider-Dan]

Also in regard to the amount of experience required for NPCs to level up post-65, when Radille hit level 66 I counted how many monsters (lv76-78, difference 10-12) it took for her to hit the ~20-40% exp level. She took 28 monsters to get to 20%, if she was getting 300 exp per kill she would have 8400 experience. If 8400 experience was exactly 20% of her level, the total required for 66-67 would be 42000. It seems really weird that SE would bump the exp/level higher than PCs when all previous levels were equal.

EXP Chain?

[Raithen]

EXP chain? For the lower levels? No we were actually killing them faster last night as there were 5 of us compared to 2. If she was getting 300 or more experience per kill, then it really appears as though the amount per level is much higher than equivalent PC levels.

[Spider-Dan]

Sorry, I misunderstood your original statement. Let's try again:

28 * 200 = 5600
5600 / 0.20 = 28,000 xp to go from 66 to 67
Exp needed for PCs to level from 66 to 67 is 27,500
20% of 27,500 is 5500xp (which is within the margin of error of your test)

So this data seems to prove two things:

1) NPCs operate under the "old cap" of 200xp/kill
2) NPCs are not eligible for EXP Chains (assuming you were killing fast enough to chain in the original test)

[Amarok!]

Thought I'd just mention my experience with the 70 cap quest.

I went with MNK/DNC and my usual gear and didn't have any problems taking my NPC down, but then my wife tried hers, thats when the problems started.

Tried as WHM/BLM (she only has WHM and RDM at 75, and NIN1). She was using her Morgenstein and fully buffing (no RR since I was outside to raise her), and it was hopeless. She gave up after a few tries and so I took up the challenge on her behalf. After making macros on my comp for all the things I thought I'd need, and about 12 failures later I gave up also. Basically I was being one-shotted as a Taru WHM everytime. Tried to bind-kite her Chainspell, some luckier than others, but I knew I was always gonna get a WS to the face at any time.

We left it for a few weeks and I went back to it on Monday, this time as RDM/WHM. Took me about 7 tries (judging by the amount of Sushi I had left) and finally won. However I can see now that going as a DD build wasn't a good idea, and really RDM/BLM with staves would have been better. But thankfully I have a happy wife again, and I can get back to my char.

[Suiram]

Sorry to kinda bump this. Has anyone had an issue where their feet armor isn't upgrading? My fellow's other armor has been going up normally, body is lv12, hands 7 I think, legs 9, but feet are stuck at level 1 leaping boots model. I only ask because apparently someone in my LS has the same issue, also a Mithra model. Was thinking it might be a glitch from the fellow points 4th armor lock thing since it happened around the time he started quest and neither of us has purchased it yet. Anyone else notice anything similar?

[Kurstone]

i have this problem with body, its stuck on adaman, 7+ calls and not upgrading

[Thufir]

Ever since the added the fellow points letting you pay for upgrades, my NPC's armor is super slow to change. I think in 20+ calls his body armor (the only one unlocked) has only changed once.

I seems like you still can get it to upgrade, but paying for it might just be way faster.

[Suiram]

Okay so, an update now, and with some more peculiarities. In my above post, I had misjudged the armor she had. She had level 12 body, level 11 legs, level 1 feet, and what I think are the level 7 hands (I attached a picture because I'm not 100% sure, but they look like Raptor Gloves to me), all Bastok armor.

Now, I know people here and elsewhere have said "armor upgrades slowly now" but for me this hasn't been my experience. It's more like it was upgrading perfectly fine, and then suddenly came to a dead stop. As some backstory, I've been levelling this NPC pretty much new in the last month or so (I had called her maybe 2 or 3 times when I first quested it years ago). From level 45 to 55 I levelled exclusively on Brasscaps in Grauberg (in all those levels I aggroed 3 skeletons at night, but I don't see that making a difference), and from 55 to now 58 on Electrumcaps in Crawler's Nest [S], and each time I called her I would upgrade one piece of armor without fail. Then about a week ago I noticed that my feet weren't upgrading at all, which seemed odd if there was a random chance for a piece to level, as I hadn't locked in any piece of equipment. Then the day I made the above post, she dinged level 12 body so I locked it in. Then the next day she upgraded to level 12 legs so I locked those in. Now I've called her twice and neither the hands nor feet have upgraded.

This is odd and somewhat bothersome to me, and I know other people out there are having issues with upgrading armor and it isn't completely understood, so I hope to keep the conversation going until it is resolved. For anyone else who is having trouble upgrading, how many total levels of armor do you have, and what/where have you been killing?

[Spider-Dan]

All of my armor is locked, so I'm unfortunately not much help. I can say that between the fellow point update and the point where I bought my 4th lock, my NPC went through two natural hand armor upgrades. They were both along the heavy armor line (kote -> scorp. -> darksteel), even though I was NPCing in areas of different control.

Back when I did my upgrading, I just spammed max kill calls in Ronfaure and locked as each part came up (except for hands, because there wasn't a 4th lock back then). If you're having trouble now, you may want to try something along that line.

[Suiram]

Well, I've been doing max kill calls every day exping on the exact same mobs that were giving me the corresponding body and leg upgrades every use up until a couple days ago when those two hit Lv12. I have no doubt I could just blow some fellow points on it later (Lvs 31-58 have given me 110k already), but at this point as I've been looking into it, it's more something I'd like to see figured out anyway.

[Therin]

i have this problem with body, its stuck on adaman, 7+ calls and not upgrading

I'm sorry that I have to be the one to tell you this, but. . . your NPC is suffering from "Generic Paladin Syndrome." You should probably put it to sleep to take it out of its misery.

[Kurstone]

upgraded once today, orz 1 more upgrade left on body then 2 on legs for pantsu effect