Beastmen running wild, Mk.2

[Evelyn]

I doubt its possible to lose towns, if it was then Bismarck would have lost at least one over the past month.

this is just getting to be retarded. I'm tired of having to camp NPCs in waters, and tired of not being able to do ops for forever, then only getting to choose between 3 kinds because the rest are blanked out. Campaign at this point is just fucking retarded.

PS Beastmen have 18 zones on Bismarck.

[evilpaul]

I doubt its possible to lose towns, if it was then Bismarck would have lost at least one over the past month.

this is just getting to be retarded. I'm tired of having to camp NPCs in waters, and tired of not being able to do ops for forever, then only getting to choose between 3 kinds because the rest are blanked out. Campaign at this point is just fucking retarded.

PS Beastmen have 18 zones on Bismarck.

They've got 19 on Hades today. Windy was lost to the Beastmen.

lolWindurst.

[Stromgarde]

Details please!

[Thistle]

They've got 19 on Hades today. Windy was lost to the Beastmen.

lolWindurst.

What's happening? Do the beastmen stay in the city 24/7?

[Aksannyi]

I guarantee as soon as all three cities are taken on any given server, that's the day people stop bothering to do Campaign. I heard about Windy being taken from my friend, but I haven't been there to check it out yet. Been trying to get through my 7 op credits in Sandy, something that used to take 30 minutes takes several hours now.

Campaign just sucks now. It used to be fun jumping all over the place to kick some ass but now it's just a hassle and no one will attempt to get a zone back from the beastmen.

[evilpaul]

What's happening? Do the beastmen stay in the city 24/7?

No idea, I was just doing my super fun /BRD spam crap in Bastok and got a party invite before I could go to check it out.

Two LS people are there and AFK, and nobody else there is answering /tells at the moment.

[Thistle]

Campaign just sucks now. It used to be fun jumping all over the place to kick some ass but now it's just a hassle and no one will attempt to get a zone back from the beastmen.

That's one of the opinons on it. The other is that this way is much, much, much better. No more needing to spam /cmap to see where to go! You can just happily sit in a city and they all come to you. Better XP, less effort. That's a win to me.

I hope it never, ever changes from this way.

[Demosthenes11]

That's one of the opinons on it. The other is that this way is much, much, much better. No more needing to spam /cmap to see where to go! You can just happily sit in a city and they all come to you. Better XP, less effort. That's a win to me.

I hope it never, ever changes from this way.

yea, it's really fun not being able to get to sandworm/dark ixion quickly and not having access to campaign ops so you can get 4k/hour exp

[Parzival]

It's fun if you don't give a fuck about Sandworm or Ixion. Or if you or someone you know has the Recalls.

[Aksannyi]

I have all three of the Recalls but it's still a far walk from the telepoints to a lot of places you'd actually want to go.

[ronin sparthos]

Campaign is officially broken, perhaps by years end this joke of a system will get fixed.

[Parzival]

I have all three of the Recalls but it's still a far walk from the telepoints to a lot of places you'd actually want to go.

Where do you want to go? If you think the xp/hr of campaign is shitty, what exactly are you doing in the past that isn't related to Sandworm or Ixion, who can pop anywhere.

[Gere]

It's less about it being broken and more about a lots of people actually liking city campaign better (the botters certainly do) so they never even attempt to take any areas back.

[Tekki]

Love it now. I think we see the best of both worlds now (Domination/Being Dominated AKA Sandoria/Bastok). The old way, everyone raped everything and u rarely got to see city battles.

[ronin sparthos]

Its becoming more and more like Besieged without any incentives to work together.

At least Besieged presented the playerbase with a clear and imminent item to protect (the EXP bonus, the runic portals) which forced people to either get their shit together or suffer in the most obvious of ways. Obviously that worked since Lakshmi has only lost twice pre-Mamool Ja Gakure nerf and Besieged is still frequently attended.

Campaign is a good system when it isnt completely imbalanced like it is quickly becoming but it lacks that actual incentive to work together.

Players treating it like "every man for himself" and the song/barspell botting only continues to ruin the system.

[Zilong]

You're making it as if people actually work together during besieged in the first place >_>

[ronin sparthos]

People work together and show up to skillup, get ISP and more importantly [Protect the Almighty EXP Bonus].

If Campaign had something like that, people would show up and more teamwork would start to happen... if for nothing but the sake of the almighty EXP bonuses.

Server mileage may vary.

[arshesney]

In Besieged people form alliances/parties and cooperate (as much as lag allows), I.'ve seen this happen in Campaign only the first few days (when beastmen where zomgraep). Now it seldom happens, and the shouts about party forming/joining are non-existant.
I think that not having a common goal is only half the problem: when Besieged is about to happen you know that for an hour you'll be fighting in Al Zhabi, no extensions or pauses: what about Campaign? There is the guy that won't move from the current zone he is in, going afk between campaigns, or the guy that is only there to recap his exp buffer shy of 700xp, or the guy faighting for his nation only, or... or...
On another note helping/supporting others in Besieged is actually REWARDING, mages have a much easier time getting capped xp in there.

On topic: this week Sandy 5, Windy 3... Bastok still under siege, will probably fall if people get tired of the same scenery over and over xD

[Max™]

Windy 3, Sandy 2, Bastok 1 on Carby.

As much as I love City Campaign, I'd like to see those new Campaign Op prizes around too, Karasu/Orcish/Balest prz.

[Brill Weave]

Noooooooooooooooooo. Bastok on Cait Sith has retaken North Gustaberg. Fucking assholes. Now I have to leave town for Campaign where I get less xp than before. Way to think it through there guys. Hope Gustaberg folds like a deck of cards this update!