What's Left of Aht Urhgan

[shihei]

Yea, the warp taru sent one/all/some of the generals into Jade Sepulcher.

I was under the impression that the Colisseum was suppose to be PvM, where you and your pals could fight tough mobs for training, think Jorm/Faf/KB type fight's with no drops, just fun. Like that FFX monster arena in the Highlands. It was cancelled though.(would have owned Pankration in popularity and we can't have that now can we)

[Tarage]

I suppose I don't really need to say what I want from ToaU, do I?

You and me both. Alex plz.

[ByeByeTasai]

Birdman Cape & Almighty Apkallu
Who knows if the two are related, but we're still no closer to discovering their secrets than we were at their implementation.

I thought we now had at least 2 confirmations that AA does drop the cape. Not that we're any closer to finding out how he pops. He had not been up once on Phoenix according to memory as of a few months ago. I use to check it regularly but I think April was the last time I checked and I had checked frequently before then.

[Pergo]

I know of at least one person who is still camping.
I have about 1500 rides over the last month and a half, but haven't seen anything interesting.

wow you're still on the boat? O_o

i gave up like a few months back, i wonder why it popped for you that one time lol

[charly.asura]

wow you're still on the boat? O_o

i gave up like a few months back, i wonder why it popped for you that one time lol

I wish I knew the answer to that, but after a month and a half, all I have are silly ideas that I don't feel are worth necro-bumping the other thread over. (Especially since I'm not camping 24/7 anymore and probably just missed it )

At this point I'm just hoping lightning will strike twice.



edited for clarity

[Pergo]

reading this thread kinda renewed my interest in it a little bit, but after seeing that you've still been at it, my hope that they "fixed" it is gone

[Kenji]

Off Topic: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34832

Ashira and Aurik should personally apologize to the poster!

Personally? He was slammed in public for a legitimate question. I'd say a public apology is warranted. But that would be expecting too much for this forum.

At any rate, I'd save speculation on Pandemonium, until a group actually has the pop items for him. It's obvious that he's implemented, with drops. And it would seem a very easy thing to check that ??? in the Woodlands once you do have the pop items. Either something will happen, or nothing, and we can move to the next theory.

[bombard]

not sure if this has been proposed but, maybe you trade the 3 tier4 items to that currently unknown ??? and it gives you a temp key item, or possible a pop item for Pandy? Not sure whats all in the .dats but it would seem kinda reasonable to think that -- and when you've got your alliance ready then you can talk to the ??? again to have your ally transported to the BC , or trade the new pop item to the ??? akin to Limbus? too many variables on this, all we can wait on now is time until someone gets all 3 tier4 pop items.

[charly.asura]

reading this thread kinda renewed my interest in it a little bit, but after seeing that you've still been at it, my hope that they "fixed" it is gone

I found Disgustipated's post a few back saying that he checked up to April with no record of a pop a bit disheartening, so we'll see how much longer I last as well.

[toonces]

not sure if this has been proposed but, maybe you trade the 3 tier4 items to that currently unknown ??? and it gives you a temp key item, or possible a pop item for Pandy? Not sure whats all in the .dats but it would seem kinda reasonable to think that -- and when you've got your alliance ready then you can talk to the ??? again to have your ally transported to the BC , or trade the new pop item to the ??? akin to Limbus? too many variables on this, all we can wait on now is time until someone gets all 3 tier4 pop items.

Maybe after you get the key item, you click the gate door in Walahra Temple :X, when you click it. It says the gate is firmly shut... some sorts like that.

Unless i missed something.. carry on

[Toth]

There is always a possibility that the unknown ???s are for unlocking the Nyzul Weapons after you do all the ridiculous requirements. Time will tell XD

[Priran]

Maybe after you get the key item, you click the gate door in Walahra Temple :X, when you click it. It says the gate is firmly shut... some sorts like that.

Unless i missed something.. carry on

according to a CS in the WotG missions, that door leads to the astral candescence.

[nitsuj]

This may not be what you're going for, but it appears to me that Aht Urhgan IS nearly complete. What seems likely to be missing still, though, and added soon (I hope) is COR/BLU/PUP relic/afv2. I'm not surprised this will be one of the final things added, although a little disappointed.

Also, I'm sure back a year or so ago in patch notes SE talked about two areas "The Pit" and "The Colosseum" (mentioned early in this thread). One was EvE and was was PvP. The current Pankration area has the EvE stuff, as we all know and love. Just NE is another door, where the guy standing outside just directs you to Pankration.

Didn't his dialogue used to talk about PvP and how it wasn't open yet, but was changed silently to just point to Pankration? It seems to me that SE is trying to make us forget they ever promised that, but maybe I'm just making stuff up... Figured you guys would know.

[toonces]

Maybe after you get the key item, you click the gate door in Walahra Temple :X, when you click it. It says the gate is firmly shut... some sorts like that.

Unless i missed something.. carry on

according to a CS in the WotG missions, that door leads to the astral candescence.

Yeah , but you never click it during the CS, so why make it a target.... the ??? is exactcly on the door handle also.

[Khamsin]

Do you have to fight every ZNM to move to the next tier? Or can you get to Pandemonium by just doing Hydra, for example? Or if you do need all three Tier IV, do you need every single ZNM under them to get there?

[Gunitsoldier]

Do you have to fight every ZNM to move to the next tier? Or can you get to Pandemonium by just doing Hydra, for example? Or if you do need all three Tier IV, do you need every single ZNM under them to get there?

Wondering the same thing.

[Wulfgang]

Do you have to fight every ZNM to move to the next tier? Or can you get to Pandemonium by just doing Hydra, for example? Or if you do need all three Tier IV, do you need every single ZNM under them to get there?

Since we no one has been there, everything is speculation...but I would imagine you need all three T4 pop items, seems to make sense alla all four god seals for Kirin, not just 4 Genbus. You should not need all ZNMs done either imo as the T1 and T2 mobs for each path are interchangeable with respect to T3 mob options; although, it could be something along the lines of Captain rank where while it took 25 points to achieve the rank ups prior to Captain, all assaults had to be finished for the final rank (along with ToAU missions).

[Seraph]

Maybe after you get the key item, you click the gate door in Walahra Temple :X, when you click it. It says the gate is firmly shut... some sorts like that.

Unless i missed something.. carry on

according to a CS in the WotG missions, that door leads to the astral candescence.

Yeah , but you never click it during the CS, so why make it a target.... the ??? is exactcly on the door handle also.

Isn't that the 'Escape ???' in the Candy hall for players trapped in there after an almost failed or failed Beseiged? I remember many people claiming the only way out was warp or teleports, but there is a small door with a ??? next to it that lets you out and back into some other part of the city.

[Khamsin]

Do you have to fight every ZNM to move to the next tier? Or can you get to Pandemonium by just doing Hydra, for example? Or if you do need all three Tier IV, do you need every single ZNM under them to get there?

Since we no one has been there, everything is speculation...but I would imagine you need all three T4 pop items, seems to make sense alla all four god seals for Kirin, not just 4 Genbus. You should not need all ZNMs done either imo as the T1 and T2 mobs for each path are interchangeable with respect to T3 mob options; although, it could be something along the lines of Captain rank where while it took 25 points to achieve the rank ups prior to Captain, all assaults had to be finished for the final rank (along with ToAU missions).

Well, my thoughts were, if it's possible to get to Pandemonium without clearing all ZNMs, maybe the lamps will have a connection to what you have or have not defeated. e.g. you can fight Pandemonium with the minimal number of ZNMs to race up the tiers, or clear all ZNMs first, and have more or less lamps as a result.

But the counter to that hypothesis would be that there's 30 lamps when they could just put 30 minus the minimum number of ZNMs required if that were the case.

Unless, of course, they simply tied each lamp to a particular ZNM and put all 30 in so they can just do a "If ___ wasn't killed, pop this one" on each one.

[konoko]

personally i like the idea of trading to the ??? in wajaom ports you (and your alliance) to a BC area in aydeewa

once you enter you have 1 pandemonium, but during the fight he summons Pandemonium lamps (like the weapons summoned by the dvergr in assault) and has a certain TP move that splits him in two, so now instead of one mob summoning more mobs, you have 2 mobs flying around summoning more mobs, possibly killing each one would result in pandemonium, or his copy taking damage (like the dvergr in einherjar) would be one insane! fight, with 32 mobs vs 18 players, that would definatly fit the definition of Pandemonium imo.

HOWS THAT FOR SOME SPECULATION!