1 week impressions of the patch

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Whole update is fucking awesome.

[A-Chaos]

Maybe you don't realize how easy ZNM can be without a "winning" linkshell (IE. 4-5 friends, or even shout pt!). Plenty of the lower tier items are pretty unique / nice for the effort put in.

Maybe I don't realize, but I've already mentioned that my friends (oddly enough) have no interest in ZNM, since vast majority have the items and merits they need, so don't care too much about it.

Meh, I'll shut up now before consequences arise..

[Gunslinger]

Eh, wasn't trying to come across as hostile- it's just that in my opinion the new content brought something new to low man, HNM, and solo play (even if it was lolFellow, which for some reason a lot of people really love D. If you don't fall into one of these groups... what else would you do? >.>

Maybe I don't realize, but I've already mentioned that my friends (oddly enough) have no interest in ZNM, since vast majority have the items and merits they need, so don't care too much about it.

Do yourself a favor and get some new friends . If everyone I hung out with only did stuff because they wanted it, I think I would have quit a long time ago.

[Rocl]

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How have you not quit?

[terranova]

IMO it was overhyped. I was looking forward to some merits for SCH :/. I've given up on hoping for anything 'new' for RDM and just gonna live with it. Mission wise, it was well done.

[A-Chaos]

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How have you not quit?

I'm a masochist it seems, so I just keep playing to keep the pain going.


Ah....pain.


Also, I ride on false hopes and dreams of dynamis AF dropping that I can actually lot, on the off chance I go (which none ~ 1 domaru drops), or other gear.

tl;dr, I'm addicted, can't stop, although it's depressing me.

[Guitarman]

Really hoping the (generally) positive feedback makes SE expand the znm system in the future. I would love to see more NMs fought this way. It's really relaxed. no camping, no botting takes place; fight when you want, and some really nice gear to boot.

[Spira]

IMO it was overhyped. I was looking forward to some merits for SCH :/.

Its not really fair to say overhyped if this was the case. Clearly you were the one who overhyped yourself by assuming that SCH merits would be added. And SE didn't announce anything of this sort..

I could say I fall in the same category because I was expecting something nice for SMN (like a new avatar cos we haven't gotten 1 in ages) but they never advertised as such..

So, as far as SE was concerned this time round, they actually managed to deliver on everything they advertised about (cept maybe campaign...) and then there were the surprises that they never mentioned...

as far as marketing concepts go, I think SE has succeeded this time round with the strategy of Underpromise:Overdeliver (or something like that)... and the beauty of it was that the stuff they actually promised was already more than what we expected to begin with

[Octavious]

I can agree on the update not being overhyped, but I don't see why it's as awesome as everyone is rejoicing about. It's like they added Ridill & D.Ring to KSNM or something. The best part of the update is definitly the einherjar adjustments that make lower number groups actually possible unlike before. Out of all the gear that was added, a select few of the pieces are decent (Antares Harness, DH+2?) which makes wasting time doing ZNM not worth it. The fact they added synthesis mats to the ZNM is nice I guess, Cerb Mantles will drop a bit assuming people do ZMN Cerberus + Regular Cerberus.

I guess if I had to pick something else other than einherjar that was worth it...probably the Everbloom Hollow area with the super-powered KA/Serket/etc since they drop their old drops too. Overall it was just more luke warm content combined with breaking campaign again, holy hell did CaitSith get rocked. I haven't had the urge to actually take pictures since the pankration release and this update really didn't change anything. (Except I can't sell ice crystals for super-inflated prices like back then...)

I'm not really angry, I just don't see why this update is more outstanding than anything we've previously had. I think the COP update was the highlight of SE's update history, sans the 8hrs it took to update and the consecutive maintenances for 4 days to fix everything that broke. I remember getting that seer's +1 for BLM and feeling beasty back then.

[Maxxthepenguin]

If you can't find anything to want from ZNM, you must be really, really jaded. I want some minor DRK upgrades, good RDM upgrades, and major BLU upgrades from ZNMs.

[Octavious]

If you can't find anything to want from ZNM, you must be really, really jaded. I want some minor DRK upgrades, good RDM upgrades, and major BLU upgrades from ZNMs.

Eh, less jaded and more I can't find anything I want from a ZNM that makes me want to wander around doing soultrapper pictures of mobs for hours on end. Only thing that would maybe be of any interest would be the MACC+20/Stats+10 staff to test against HQ staves on RDM, even that I don't really feel like doing the ZNM to fight a lame hydra. I suppose the DRG earring for some free angon action might be nice, but I don't do DRG that often to worry about the cost of angons. If anything i'd prob do Witch Sash so I could sell my P.Rope, that's prob it. Still not worth taking pictures, it gets so annoying to go grab some dark elementals for cooking and 10ppl start snapping pictures when i'm nuking them on BLM >_>...

Zahak's Mail is slightly tempting if getting to Guivre wasn't a pain, the DEX+10 STR+10 might be interesting on a Penta WS setup but that isn't a ZNM item so again no urge to take pictures. I'm actually looking forward to the end a June so I can buy some discounted dusk gloves more than the gear added. >_> yay Bonanza breaking Dusk Price!

[Spira]

getting 15-18 people to do an endgame NM/battlefield is a pain?

oh this game is too easy now..

[Maxxthepenguin]

Snapping pictures is far less annoying than, say, climbing the stupid Parradamo Tor and running all the way back to the beginning of the chasm and then running all the way to the ENM area. It's actually kinda fun to go check out things you don't go to every day.

I could list equip you should want for your jobs, but you probably wouldn't listen, so whatever.

[Rocl]

it gets so annoying to go grab some dark elementals for cooking and 10ppl start snapping pictures when i'm nuking them on BLM >_>..

If people are taking pictures of your elementals for ZNMs they're doing it wrong. They're probably doing it for Pankration. >|

[Lordwafik]

The theme of this week's vagina sanding is "Quitting while you're ahead - A Journey in not wanting to play a game you pay 12.95 to play".

[Xno Kappa]

Update is made nothing of but win imo. ZNM is fun and simple and added some pretty pimp equipment. Enkidu mitten's is probably the best hand piece for BLU's big 3 now.

[Sendra]

I'm enjoying the patch so far, it's nice to see that they recycled something cool but unused. The only complaint I've got is the unneeded einherjar nerf. =/

[Tomino]

I still feel FF playerbase was so used in getting almost nothing out of a patch that the day it came out decent many screamed in joy and warm tears.

ZNM system is very well done, everything is basically a reskin and there are no new really locations for that but, still, it's definitely new content : new tactics, some jobs being useful and many sidegrade items.

Sandworm is new content and the new BC fights means fresh new game designs. i really like that and every patch should have stuff like that since it's basically game programming, creating new mobs and behaviors for them.



new merits? sorry but it's a lame excuse for something "new". i know they can have some impact on LS playstyles but, really, raising a numeric cap is like a click of a button for the develop team. SCH/DNC merits would had been "new content" for sure.

eihenerjar is a FIX. they made it like crap from the start and they day they finally fix the whole thing is not they deserve praises or medals. i dont think patching something terrible should ever be considered "core" content since players basically deserve that. same goes for fixing things here and there like Moogles, droprates or Fellows. the whole thing of announcing a fix is somehow wicked if you ask me.

finally.. WoTG. i mean, really. they showed cutscenes from the crystal war, events, battles, new WSes and hinted to new skills/magics and all we're getting after like 6 months is... this? WSes coming from Nyzul relics (if that's the case) are even lamer since they arent even related to WotG.

[Arkanna]

I'm pretty happy with the update, even without having done most of what it offers just yet.

The Einherjar change was win, though it does feel very watered down at the moment. Then again, my group was roughly 18 people before the update so I was pretty used to getting fucked in the ass even on tier 1, with bad mob rolls and all. Therion Ichor being awarded for kills is great though, as is more frequent Odins with less worry about a single person missing a single run. Good stuff.

ZNM's have been fun lately. Anything new and different to fight is win in my book, the rewards just seal the deal. While the lower-tier stuff isn't amazing, I can find pieces that are useful for my jobs in all tiers. Plus the fights are kinda fun; as I said, anything new and different in that regard is a win.

Sandworm I have not done yet, nor Ixion. Though my linkshell had a blast yesterday fucking with the SpyralHell/Endure merge shell, Vicious. Somehow they didn't loose claim (still haven't figured that one out just yet). But that's neither here nor there; new fights = win.

The storyline additions are great. The cutscene right before the dragon BCNM is probably one of the best yet (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3tzd_tad8Y). My only complaint here is, the WotG story is unfolding too slowly for me. The story has a ton of potential but yet it's rolling out at a snail's pace.

Overall, 8.5/10! :D

[terranova]

IMO it was overhyped. I was looking forward to some merits for SCH :/.

Its not really fair to say overhyped if this was the case. Clearly you were the one who overhyped yourself by assuming that SCH merits would be added.

Eh no. I wasn't one of the ones saying, THIS IS THE BEST UPDATE YETZZZ, OHH THIS UPDATE IS GONNA BE BIG AND FULL OF WIN!!! I'll go further and say I'm a bit iffed at the once again lack of missions given to us. Woo whoo, "five". Ixion was ok I guess, but I haven't fought him and not in a shell capable of doing him, so I don't give a shit about his drops. We also didn't get that oh so ANTICIPATED "Dynamis change" that everyone was harping on.

And SE has been known to thrown in shit and not announcing it until the day of the patch notes so..can you blame me for having a little hope for some SCH merits?