The gimp/confused/wtf player thread IV: No NQ Amemets here!

[Daimen-G]

as situations where you need superior, reliable defense come up a hell of a lot more often than "black mages and red mages don't know how to fucking cast sleepga."

[S N K]

sch is a very nice sub to have because it's efficient but in [some] situations it's worthless. So many people have said it should be a whm's only sub.

"Worthless"? Really? You have no idea what you are talking about.

Please learn to read.

Also

If you're not subbing BLM so you can ES Slow, Tractor some idiot, or help clean up after some retard puller's mess, then /SCH is by leaps and bounds the superior subjob to the point of rendering the others completely useless in comparison.

sch is a very nice sub to have because it's efficient but in [some] situations it's worthless. So many people have said it should be a whm's only sub.

Thank you for saying excatly what I was saying in my previous post only with more detail. I never said sch was worthless as a sub which you jumped into with a loaded gun and started blasting away I said in some situations it is worthless. Meaning sometimes that /sch won't be as good as /blm for some things which might help better.

[Daimen-G]

It's never worthless. Like I said, you have no idea what you are talking about.

e: nice edit and backpedaling. FYI, I was responding to your entire post, which basically waves off /SCH as a useless toy.

Yes it's nice and it's got a lot to offer in some situations but in Dynamis I see no reason to say a whm is gimp for subbing /blm or /smn

It's got a lot to offer in "some situations"? You meant all situations, right?

And a WHM isn't gimp for subbing /SMN when basically all it does is increase MP efficiency, but not anywhere near the level of efficiency that /SCH does?

yase, you evidentally don't know what you are talking about.

[Pirian]

sch is a very nice sub to have because it's efficient but in some situations it's worthless. So many people have said it should be a whm's only sub.

SCH is an amazing sub for smn too. Gives you skill you wouldn't otherwise have and lots more versatility. Between sublimation and elemental siphon it's pretty easy to keep your mp pretty full

[S N K]

It's never worthless. Like I said, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Reading comprehension isn't your thing I understand that but really try and learn to read better.

Some doesn't equal all. I'm sure you could sit here and argue the semantics of why you think I'm wrong but it won't help your arguement in the least.

As I said before, Sch is a great and efficient subjob but, in some *Yes there's that word you're ignoring* situations, it is worthless.

It's got a lot to offer in "some situations"? You meant all situations, right?

No I don't mean all. You said it yourself already.

If you're not subbing BLM so you can ES Slow, Tractor some idiot, or help clean up after some retard puller's mess, then /SCH is by leaps and bounds the superior subjob to the point of rendering the others completely useless in comparison.

Nice to see you got my message but are still trying to argue thru a circle. Unless /sch can do those things you've listed above then in that situation which you've described above the subjob will be worthless.

Sch is an awesome subjob and I never said otherwise. You're putting it on a shelf thinking it can do everything when it can't. I wish that were true because I'd love to not sub BLM for anything anymore but sometimes once in awhile I have to.

Oh and personally I hate subbing smn to anything. If I have to worry about how much MP I'm going to have to consume then there's a problem.

[Daimen-G]

lets ignore definitions of words when it suits our arguments to do so

its fun

It's not "worthless" in that situation, you just don't have the nice safety net. "Worthless" is WAR/DRG ever since /SAM got Hasso and Seigan. "Worthless" is subbing THF to a merit party. /SCH is never truly "worthless".

edit: also, stop posting a single inflammatory statement and then editing in actual content. It's p. annoying

[S N K]

lets ignore definitions of words when it suits our arguments to do so

its fun

You're the one that started it flyboy, not me.

It's not "worthless" in that situation, you just don't have the nice safety net. "Worthless" is WAR/DRG ever since /SAM got Hasso and Seigan. "Worthless" is subbing THF to a merit party. /SCH is never truly "worthless".

Can whm/sch perform ES Slow, Tractor, or help *as you put it* clean up after some retard puller's mess?

That's right it can't. So in that situation it is worthless.

edit: also, stop posting a single inflammatory statement and then editing in actual content. It's p. annoying

So is your lack of reading comprehension but I'm not worried about it.

[Daimen-G]

Can whm/sch perform ES Slow, Tractor, or help *as you put it* clean up after some retard puller's mess?

No, but it CAN make the White Mage better at his regular job. This semantics argument is getting annoying and we both basically agree /SCH is the best SJ for WHM, so I'm just going to leave it here before your icy hot burns against my understanding of English get any worse.

[S N K]

Can whm/sch perform ES Slow, Tractor, or help *as you put it* clean up after some retard puller's mess?

No,

Excatly the point I was trying to hammer here.

but it CAN make the White Mage better at his regular job.

Never said it wouldn't. I said multiple times it makes a whm more efficient at their job which I welcome.

This semantics argument is getting annoying and we both basically agree /SCH is the best SJ for WHM, so I'm just going to leave it here before your icy hot burns against my understanding of English get any worse.

lol @ My Icy Hot. I recall some retard years ago posting about how he tried to use that stuff as lube for masterbating. Anyways I think I made my point. /sch yes it's awesome for most things now. No arguement but in those rare moments where a /blm sub would be better then yes /sch suffers for it.

Oh and fuck /smn sub. If you're using that fulltime when /sch burns that to the ground then you're doing it wrong.

P.S. I still don't feel it's gimp for a Whm to not have it since the job is still fairly new but I would suggest to any whm to level it because it offers a lot of great options.

[Daimen-G]

lol @ My Icy Hot. I recall some retard years ago posting about how he tried to use that stuff as lube for masterbating

what

[S N K]

lol @ My Icy Hot. I recall some retard years ago posting about how he tried to use that stuff as lube for masterbating

what

I'd have to dig it up. It was on one of my old gaming sites and for some reason he had to post about using Icy hot as some type of lube to masterbate with and ended up burning his dick for it.

[Royal]

Penury alone makes /sch better than blm.

[Rocl]

TAKE YOUR FUCKING WHITE MAGE SUB DISCUSSION OUT OF THIS THREAD.

GO MAKE A TOPIC ELSEWHERE.

On topic:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/Rocl/gimpirl.png

[Gunitsoldier]

TAKE YOUR FUCKING WHITE MAGE SUB DISCUSSION OUT OF THIS THREAD.

GO MAKE A TOPIC ELSEWHERE.

On topic:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/Rocl/gimpirl.png

Jesus christ where you'd find this gimp, Rocl? No ebow, nothing.

[terranova]

LOLRNGISSO2004. Get wiff the times Rocl.

JK

[omgaggrohelpme]

This thing invited me to a party. I pulled, then couldn't take staring at the blueberry paladin any longer and ran away.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/495...2200506no0.png

Am I being wooshed by the MNK picture? can't you see he isn't 75 and therefore doesn't have Turban or BH?

Now he might be 72-ish in a merit pt type trying to leech.. fuck, I know I did that on WAR with KC >_>; I just got 2 Ridill friends and I could pick of the litter with BRD's and RDM's... I got from 71 > 75 in 2 days with just xping 2-3 hrs a day >_>;

And about the AF.. I know of a MNK that didnt even get AF until AFTER he was 75 because he was in a good static...

the BB PLD I can understand. but the MNK.. I've seen 1000x worse .. I HOPE i'm being wooshed as I haven't even read the full thread nor have I noticed that he posts here >>;

[S N K]

TAKE YOUR FUCKING WHITE MAGE SUB DISCUSSION OUT OF THIS THREAD.

GO MAKE A TOPIC ELSEWHERE.

On topic:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/Rocl/gimpirl.png

I'd pt with this guy..

[Obev]

stuff

He's using the Knuckles of Trials in a "merit" party.

[Tsuko_Asura]

This thing invited me to a party. I pulled, then couldn't take staring at the blueberry paladin any longer and ran away.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/495...2200506no0.png

Am I being wooshed by the MNK picture? can't you see he isn't 75 and therefore doesn't have Turban or BH?

Now he might be 72-ish in a merit pt type trying to leech.. fuck, I know I did that on WAR with KC >_>; I just got 2 Ridill friends and I could pick of the litter with BRD's and RDM's... I got from 71 > 75 in 2 days with just xping 2-3 hrs a day >_>;

And about the AF.. I know of a MNK that didnt even get AF until AFTER he was 75 because he was in a good static...

the BB PLD I can understand. but the MNK.. I've seen 1000x worse .. I HOPE i'm being wooshed as I haven't even read the full thread nor have I noticed that he posts here >>;

Nice.

[MaachaQ]

P.S. I still don't feel it's gimp for a Whm to not have it since the job is still fairly new but I would suggest to any whm to level it because it offers a lot of great options.

I know that I need /SCH, and feel a bit bad for not working on it yet, but with the number of events I've been having to attend for my LS recently I have had very little time to gear up and lvl anything... I've got Dynamis, Limbus, Assault/Nyzul (First Lieutenant/Floor 81), ZNMs, Sky/Sea, 21-24 hour NMs, etc, all of which I need to have full gear for one or more of my high lvl jobs. Not much of that gear overlaps anymore either... Until SE makes it easier for me to store gear for a different job (4/5 Relic AF for 3 jobs sucks ass... damned outlands...) without having to trade to a mule a dozen times, I'll have to put off lvling for those rare times nobody needs my help...

I've been playing WHM too long I think... whenever someone says in LS "Hey I goofed up, can I get a Raise 3 at suchandsuch?" I feel an obsessive compulsion to go rescue them and help them get revenge on whatever killed them... Lost 4k exp the other night because a BST wanted to kill Amikiri and nobody but me wanted to go help for a long time... /sigh