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  1. #1101
    Relic Shield
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRX3000D View Post
    So let me guess, you people have no fucking problem with someone using Blitz rings? Cause you just said, ANY haste. And don't fucking lie, either. Oh, snap, I just probably caught you contradicting yourself.

    Seriously, those of you been telling me to wear a crapass turban because all it offers is 5% haste are blatantly advocating wearing blitz rings.

    [sarcasm]Well, thanks for the tip. I'll try to get a couple Blitz rings.[/sarcasm]
    k, because 3.5 attack outweights 5% haste

  2. #1102
    Gunitsoldier
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRX3000D View Post
    [sarcasm]Well, thanks for the tip. I'll try to get a couple Blitz rings.[/sarcasm]
    http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/0/05/BlitzRing.jpg

    Go get em girl.

  3. #1103
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRX3000D View Post
    So let me guess, you people have no fucking problem with someone using Blitz rings? Cause you just said, ANY haste. And don't fucking lie, either. Oh, snap, I just probably caught you contradicting yourself.

    Seriously, those of you been telling me to wear a crapass turban because all it offers is 5% haste are blatantly advocating wearing blitz rings.

    [sarcasm]Well, thanks for the tip. I'll try to get a couple Blitz rings.[/sarcasm]
    Well... the person you've quote does equip a blitz ring. I'm not sure if it's actually part of his tp gear or not, Caclax likes to wear all kinds of stuff at camps it seems.

  4. #1104
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    Well, I gotta lol at 'couple of blitz rings'...

  5. #1105
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    its funny you say that, most ppl probably would say its trash, though i use blitz ring, granted i have a relic, which also impairs evasion, so i can get away without using an accuracy ring in place of it a little easier than the average run of the mill war. It is all situational though really. please go take 30min to parce wearing walmart turban over wyvern for tp build, it wont take long for you to decide its time for you to eat your words.. haste has increasing returns, this have been proven on many different threads here just give up trying to convince people here otherwise, you are fighting a loosing battle :/

    thought i would add i have accuracy rings, and a few other pieces of accuracy gear i have that i can use on higher end mobs that would require the extra acc boost, as i said gear is situational. People who use the same lolgear full time is how items like blitz ring get bashed so easily. i recall people saying Bravura was a trash relic when i first got it, not so trash anymore though

  6. #1106
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    You can only wear one Blitz Ring, Mrs Wyvern Helm.

  7. #1107
    Gunitsoldier
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    Hmmm. Maybe I should've zoomed in on the pic in my previous post.

  8. #1108
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    Shouldn't be fighting period. No one was even picking on his gear until he started defending himself (from an attack that didn't really exist).

    Haste is your friend, but it's situational. It tends to preform much better when your other gear is high quality- when you start messing with your hit rate and stuff it may not be an appropriate swap. I'd rather see you melee in an optical hat than a wyvern helm, at least then it has some real function (yes, even with accuracy bonus II). Sadly, dragoon is not a job you play and look good all the time, stats > looks as far as real world stuff goes.

    You can only wear one Blitz Ring, Mrs Wyvern Helm.
    Woosh lol.

  9. #1109
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    Many lulz @ the DRG TPing in Wyvern helm onry posting someone.

  10. #1110
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    STR+5, ignoring Attack benefits from gaining it, adds a maximum of 6 points to your damage (when criticalling, assuming the 3.0 pdif cap on melee criticals is correct for 2handed weapons). This is such a small percentage of your damage compared to simply hitting more, which also gives you more TP for more WSs for greater damage overall. And you will rarely "only" have 5% haste; as people have mentioned, other gear is readily available with Haste.

    Additionally, if you are in a merit setup or any kind of supported setup, you will likely be receiving a Haste spell at the very least; an extra 15%. Haste has increasing returns so the more you stack, the better it becomes... STR produces static returns until you hit the fSTR cap (if we ignore Attack gained from STR). Building to favour increasing returns will return greater results than building to favour static returns in a TP build sense.

    To conclude, there is NO reason to EVER TP in a Wyvern Helm, Walahra Turban beats it categorically in any situation as a DRG.

    And I don't think Blitz Ring would be that almightily terrible if you had capped accuracy (feasible using a twohanded relic) and were in very high haste situations frequently.

  11. #1111
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    Swift Belt hates me so I have to use Quick Belt + Blitz Ring for Utsu recasts for a bit ; ;

  12. #1112
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    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba View Post
    0/14, i feel your pain. I hate swifties.
    *cough1/1cough*

    but i got my drop from the Mithra >___> she chainspell nuked me... for my shadows..


    shes not as hard as everyone claims

  13. #1113
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    The last run I did we had an awful PLD, died 4 times to normal mobs before we popped one NM, was fine on gear but never used Cures higher than II and never used JAs other than Voke...our first pop didn't drop, I win the random to use my trig next, then everyone decides that the random system we had agreed on isn't fair and that the shitty PLD should get to pop, he gets 1-shotted by EES 30 seconds into the fight and we kill without him, his pop drops 1/1 and we're done for the night.

  14. #1114
    Nikkei's Hoe
    Worse than her at uno

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    Pay no attention to Dantai. The creepy mother fucker who stalked my neighbor in game for the longest time. No wonder he changed names and jumped ship. >_>;

  15. #1115
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    Kkel's partly right on the issue of haste. I know he's been working in Limbus trying to get homam so the effort is there. I personally hated that turban but I was thankful I had other options at the time before that thing came out.

    DRG really doesn't have much in terms of accuracy issues but if I had to forgo a turban which I really wouldn't want to, I'd use something with attack over STR.

    Sword Belt +1 is a sexy piece also when you really want to pile on attack with a job like DRG. On topic tho, I can see where he's coming from in saying that only 5% haste by itself is hardly noticeable but even then I'd use it.

    I dunno I really never gave a damn much about it either way. I have full on Haste sets and WS build sets but some people I know just hadn't had that much luck in getting a Swift Belt *1/11 on mine* or spend their time farming and getting gear to better equip their jobs.

    Turban is really one of the best things you can get if you don't have a full on end game shell that can help with Homam or Ace's. I just wish the damn thing wasn't so fucking ugly. :<

  16. #1116
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    Quote Originally Posted by EssEnnKay View Post
    I just wish the damn thing wasn't so fucking ugly. :<
    I always changed mine, looks like CC glasses for me. Can't take the model =/

  17. #1117
    The 69th Donor
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    I don't mind the turban if they could take the ugly fucking chinstrap off. It looks like ass.

  18. #1118
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    Don't forget Askar Helm, nice for DRG as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Don't forget Askar Helm, nice for DRG as well.
    And it looks amazing on tarus

  20. #1120
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyotomi View Post
    And it looks amazing on tarus
    On the hood of a Cadillac maybe.

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