100% Drop NM's

[Callisto]

I guess I can test this on a mule later on some NM like the Pilgrim's Wand bird. I could pop and claim it myself, then invite the mule before death and see if it still drops.

No need, I've claimed Pilgrim Wand NM solo(I have wand), then logged g/f in and brought her out to saruta and invited her, then killed bird and got the drop for her. It's not that.

[Tyr]

Can you add Vouivre "Gae Bolg" - Ifrit's Cauldron (don't know the level)

Lv.68 Polearm

[didgist]

80-81 S.S.G. Charybdis - Joyeuse

Nope.
Hi, I posted the original Screenshot that was reposted on page 1.

A few people in the party didn't have the sword, we had camped 4 other Charybdis that week on a noobs who need joyeuse spree, we even had people who didn't even know us calling GMs because every condition for it to drop was met, but it didn't.

The GM just told us it wasn't 100%. I call glitch, either that or Pearl/Joyeuse is 100%, but i've seen both in pool so who the fuck knows. That and we got two more within a couple days, lol

[Kenji]

Going to be POIDH, but I've had Aquarius -not- drop Fransisca once. I did not have a Fransisca, as I throw it away after every kill. This was shortly after D cloth was removed from Aquarius' pool, so it could have been a problem with that, as SE seems to make mistakes so easily.

Ive also seen AQ drop no Francisca... definately a wtf type moment.

Cool. So we believe one NM has a very rare chance to *not* drop it's rare/ex item, but we have trouble believing the same about another NM that drops a rare/ex item.

Hell, meriting in Mamool Ja staging point, I've seen everyone get one of those rare/ex blackscale keys, and another drops into the treasure pool. Because we all had one, it just says you don't meet the requirements, and the item is lost. Seen it work the same with coffer keys, leveling in Kuftal among other places.

So, following this logical line of thought, going with the idea that Charby is not a 100% drop. Just extremely high.

Thus, on one side, we have screenshots, personal testimony, and logic.

On the other side we have... personal belief (and it works so well for those lovable fundamentalists, like Jack Thompson)

Um, yeah.

[Shuemue]

Some items enter pool even if every alliance member has one, others simply will not drop.

[Kaeko]

If you're going to include triggers, the level 30 cap promy's have 100% drop rate on their remnent triggers (used to pop the lvl50 NM in promy vahzl).

Promy Dem - Satiator - Satiator Remnant

Promy Holla - Cerebrator - Cerebrator Remnant

Promy Mea - Coveter - Coveter Remnant

[Kenji]

Some items enter pool even if every alliance member has one, others simply will not drop.

Perhaps. But we know it as fact that the former is true. I'm not quite sure of the latter. A few people wanna hit up those other 100% NMs, and make sure everyone has one of the rare/ex item, and then provide a screenshot of it not dropping?

[Shuemue]

It's fact. It's been proved over and over. It really should be common knowledge by now.

[savageboy]

cue empty proto-omega chest

[Ryushii]

I'm going to go off another person's idea. Could you maybe code the NMs to make it a bit easier to reference? I don't see anyone really getting any use out of the knowledge that an NM with a really great drop also drops a useless club 100% of the time, but I think it's a great reference guide for the NMs that drop good shit 100% of the time. Could you maybe try and code it to make the more useful information stand out and allow the rest to fade into the background?

[Yuri-G]

The most useful list in the world? No. But it is what it is, and it could be marginally useful for some people. If nothing else I get bored and feel like fighting random NMs sometimes, at least I'll know if there are any in my level range that drop something decent.

[Kenji]

It's fact. It's been proved over and over. It really should be common knowledge by now.

Common knowledge to those that spend every waking moment on multiple forums. You'll actually find a lot of FFXI players aren't like that.

[Falconfire]

I can 100% confirm I have seen Charby not drop once, 3 years ago (and I did not have a sword as did others). So while it should be 100% its possible its glitched and its such a rare as hell glitch that it rarely crops up thus why it was never repaired (which is not unheard of).

I still consider Charby to be 100% though since it was so rare as to when its done that and I have never seen it done it the 10-11 times since.

[Demosthenes11]

It's fact. It's been proved over and over. It really should be common knowledge by now.

Common knowledge to those that spend every waking moment on multiple forums. You'll actually find a lot of FFXI players aren't like that.

so you tell me why everyone and their mom's don't have Drings, or PCC

[Shuemue]

It's fact. It's been proved over and over. It really should be common knowledge by now.

Common knowledge to those that spend every waking moment on multiple forums. You'll actually find a lot of FFXI players aren't like that.

Or common knowledge to people who've actually paid attention over the last 3-5 years.

[rog]

wasn't the item not dropping if everyone has one thing changed? i believe this was abused to make dring 100% drop?

i remember someone trying to do this with sorc ring, and it not working.

[Kenji]

It's fact. It's been proved over and over. It really should be common knowledge by now.

Common knowledge to those that spend every waking moment on multiple forums. You'll actually find a lot of FFXI players aren't like that.

Or common knowledge to people who've actually paid attention over the last 3-5 years.

True. But given the way the game has averaged 500k subscribers over the past several years, there has been a lot of turnover. So you can expect very few who have been here 3-5 years, and a lot of new people in the 1 year range. Or 2+ year casuals. Hell, I know a DRK that finally hit 73, and he's been playing on and off for almost 4 years. There is much minutia that I be isn't familiar with. Or another class of people that quit for a few years, and know that things could have changed in that time.

But this is getting off-topic. It's quite obvious that, glitch or not, Charby isn't 100%.

[Auspex]

Maighdean Uaine in North Gustaberg drops Optical Earring 100%.

[Shuemue]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

[Lysithea]

>.> elohel spiny spipi isn't 100% unless they've changed him. bastard crawler!