100% Drop NM's

[fndragon]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

Actually, all you need is 1 verifiable case to prove it's not 100%. The second case is called "Supporting evidence".

Granted, it knocks it down to approximately 99.8% (assuming 1000 kills only that you have evidence for), and I'll still take those odds.

Too low for this list, though.

[Demosthenes11]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

Actually, all you need is 1 verifiable case to prove it's not 100%. The second case is called "Supporting evidence".

Granted, it knocks it down to approximately 99.8% (assuming 1000 kills only that you have evidence for), and I'll still take those odds.

Too low for this list, though.

not in a game like this
evidence points to a glitch

[Day]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

Actually, all you need is 1 verifiable case to prove it's not 100%. The second case is called "Supporting evidence".

Granted, it knocks it down to approximately 99.8% (assuming 1000 kills only that you have evidence for), and I'll still take those odds.

Too low for this list, though.

not in a game like this
evidence points to a glitch

Sneak and Invis 100%?

[Kenji]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

Actually, all you need is 1 verifiable case to prove it's not 100%. The second case is called "Supporting evidence".

Granted, it knocks it down to approximately 99.8% (assuming 1000 kills only that you have evidence for), and I'll still take those odds.

Too low for this list, though.

not in a game like this
evidence points to a glitch

Glitch or not, it's not 100%. Science doesn't care whether you're in a game or not. Science and facts exist, regardless of how you feel about them.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Just for the sake of knit-picking, if something were to even have the chance of glitching, wouldn't that in itself deem it impossible to claim such a thing was a 100% drop?

[Maxxthepenguin]

Glitch or not, it's not 100%. Science doesn't care whether you're in a game or not. Science and facts exist, regardless of how you feel about them.

Droprates of specific items in an MMO: It's science.

[Demosthenes11]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

Actually, all you need is 1 verifiable case to prove it's not 100%. The second case is called "Supporting evidence".

Granted, it knocks it down to approximately 99.8% (assuming 1000 kills only that you have evidence for), and I'll still take those odds.

Too low for this list, though.

not in a game like this
evidence points to a glitch

Sneak and Invis 100%?

same deal, glitch

[Zoot]

About the sneak and invis thing....I had a curious idea about what was causing the sneak + invisible wear off when inside the tunnel near the eyes to trade chamemet ice to the ???.

Each time it happened to me (three times now, I ENM weekly), I had had aggro on the way up but slept it, however they were nowhere in sight when my sneak and invisible wore off.

Because the zone is layered on top of itself, my guess is that at that moment my aggro passed directly on top of me. No idea if that's really applicable, but it seems more logical than sneak and invisible being less than 100%.

[volcanicweather]

Friar Rush in Den of Rancor drops Bomb Core 100%. Kind of a "lol" item now, but I made millions upon millions soloing this NM too many times to count on SMN years ago when there wasn't a better ammo item.

[Sev]

Just for the sake of knit-picking, if something were to even have the chance of glitching, wouldn't that in itself deem it impossible to claim such a thing was a 100% drop?

This would be the correct answer over the people bitching about the joy toy glitch or not glitch. GM's will tell you everything is running fine regardless of if it is or not unless the dev team or whom ever tells them that there is a current issue, then cue maint. The Pixie Earring trick wouldn't glitch to dring, it drops one or the other and if it drops pixie and everyone in the alliance has a pixie it drops nothing, iirc. Otherwise you could just have ppl log off and have 6 people who have pixie make 100% drings. I have seen joy not drop once, because before we killed it the one person who needed it dc'd. so out of over 40 kills its not dropped once under the everyone has it theory or rule w/e. Yay joyeuse drama.

[Foustian]

>.> elohel spiny spipi isn't 100% unless they've changed him. bastard crawler!

Did you realize he said its 100% on silk threads, not the cape?

[matt4684]

Bendigeit Vran has 100% drop on rogetsurin as well

[Sho]

Pretty sure Ro'Maeve Water, Diorite, and Peiste Pellets are all 0% drops.

[Rydir]

So better odds getting a Kraken Club from bcnm than you have NOT getting a Joyeuse? Because i am 1/35 on Up in Arms bcnm and i have done well over 35 Charybdis and never seen the Joyeuse not drop.

To OP: TY for list.

[Alistaire]

Did they change JoL? I know I've seen JoL drop nothing before.

[Sev]

Did they change JoL? I know I've seen JoL drop nothing before.

Sea Weapons have been 100% for a long time now.

[jaryk]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

If it was two it'd be cute, but there's been several discussions of this in the forums, perhaps if you paid attention in the last 3-5 years you might be more inclined to know. I can say that in about 40 or so runs it didn't drop, I was always there for claim and never owned one. If you want to disprove me, claim Chary every day for two years straight and show me every ss, otherwise I think we'll say you're wrong.

[Sev]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

If it was two it'd be cute, but there's been several discussions of this in the forums, perhaps if you paid attention in the last 3-5 years you might be more inclined to know. I can say that in about 40 or so runs it didn't drop, I was always there for claim and never owned one. If you want to disprove me, claim Chary every day for two years straight and show me every ss, otherwise I think we'll say you're wrong.

I would totally do it just to cock block people from getting a sword >.>, I dont want 1,460 people. And wouldn't it be more useful for the people trying to prove its not 100% to do it?

lastly No, you.

[jaryk]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

If it was two it'd be cute, but there's been several discussions of this in the forums, perhaps if you paid attention in the last 3-5 years you might be more inclined to know. I can say that in about 40 or so runs it didn't drop, I was always there for claim and never owned one. If you want to disprove me, claim Chary every day for two years straight and show me every ss, otherwise I think we'll say you're wrong.

I would totally do it just to cock block people from getting a sword >.>, I dont want 1,460 people. And wouldn't it be more useful for the people trying to prove its not 100% to do it?

lastly No, you.

No because the pictures have been posted, so we have the poidh to prove that Chary doesn't drop 100%, the burden of proof is on the people who insist it is.

[fantasticdan]

Charby isn't 100%.

Two reports in thousands of kills really doesn't prove anything, sorry.

If it was two it'd be cute, but there's been several discussions of this in the forums, perhaps if you paid attention in the last 3-5 years you might be more inclined to know. I can say that in about 40 or so runs it didn't drop, I was always there for claim and never owned one. If you want to disprove me, claim Chary every day for two years straight and show me every ss, otherwise I think we'll say you're wrong.

I would totally do it just to cock block people from getting a sword >.>, I dont want 1,460 people. And wouldn't it be more useful for the people trying to prove its not 100% to do it?

lastly No, you.

No because the pictures have been posted, so we have the poidh to prove that Chary doesn't drop 100%, the burden of proof is on the people who insist it is.

Those pictures don't prove the people in pt don't have the sword already, they're not proof.