Firefox 3.0 RC

[Akiyama]

I'm computer literate, build computers, all that other shit, and even I still managed to deduce that logically he meant 90k as in 90,000 kilobytes.

Of course, instead of being such a fucking jerk you could easily ask them if they mean 90kb or 90,000kb instead of acting like they're the idiots. If you know better, it makes you a fucking moron for needing them to say it your way without using your common sense.

That wasn't directed at me was it? >.>

/still tired.

Either way, that's true. I feel the same way. I just never felt the need to type out 90,000 instead of 90k. I said 90k, not 90K and I figure that could be seen as a difference. Unlike people who type "u" and "r".. typing 90k is a better abbreviation for 90,000 than "u" is for "you." Just my opinion.

[Gulkeeva]

about 120MB first open with 2 browsing thumbnails from image boards, other 2 veiwing actual images.

1 day usage, browsing anywhere from 100-300 websites Firefox's memory usage nears 200MB (even if only 1 tab is open only veiwing google homepage)
closing and reopening reduces it back down to 30MB ish. But I browse constantly, and many many sites for "pics" so its usualy open for several days. (havne't had firefox go over 600MB memory usage)

[Correction]

I'm computer literate, build computers, all that other shit, and even I still managed to deduce that logically he meant 90k as in 90,000 kilobytes.

Of course, instead of being such a fucking jerk you could easily ask them if they mean 90kb or 90,000kb instead of acting like they're the idiots. If you know better, it makes you a fucking moron for needing them to say it your way without using your common sense.

Common sense is what compels me to use the correct words and abbreviations. 90k doesn't mean '90 kilo kilobytes' by any stretch of the imagination. It's a bad habit picked up from reading the badly-formatted numbers off of Task Manager.

But I guess I'm a fucking jerk and a fucking moron for asking people to actually type what they mean. Thanks for clearing that up without resorting to childish namecalling.

[Zosi]

I didn't post because I couldn't understand your misuse of measurement terms. However, my ability to understand your butchering of measurement units doesn't make your usage correct or acceptable.

When it comes to memory, all units are in bytes. As such, many people leave off the bytes when talking about sizes, which means that "5k" means "5 kilobytes", 10m means "10 megabytes", "4g" means "4 gigabytes", etc. In addition, the terms "kilo", "mega" and "giga" mean 2^10, 2^20 and 2^30 respectively, not 10^3, 10^6 and 10^9. There are other parts of the PC world where this isn't true, particularly networking (where bits and bytes are both used depending on the context) or hard drives (where powers of 10 are used for marketing purposes). Thus, with you being a builder of PCs rather than actually involved in programming and memory allocation, I can understand your confusion. However, your usage in this context is completely incorrect because you're mixing SI terms ("k" meaning 10^3 or 1000) with powers-of-2 terms ("kilobyte" meaning 2^10 or 1024 bytes) in the same measurement. Either use the appropriate powers-of-2 term, or write it out without the abbreviation, other uses are not correct.

As for Correction's (edited, I get you two mixed up too much) "memory leak", it's not as simple as simply looking at the reserved memory before and after an operation. Firefox reserves memory (not the same as allocating, reserved memory can be requested back by Windows to allocate to other programs) in anticipation of your actions. The amount it keeps reserved depends on your actions, if you have had a lot of tabs open this session, it assumes that you're a heavy tab user and keeps a fair bit of memory allocated in case you open a bunch of tabs at once again. This doesn't mean the memory's leaking, or that it's not available to other applications. As long as Firefox just has the memory reserved (and not allocated and in use), it can be requested and returned to Windows with pretty minimal fuss, that's the basic idea of how memory management works. This is very different from a memory leak, where the memory is marked as "in use" to Windows, and never gets recycled or released.

Another thing to consider is that Task Manager's memory use includes memory that's currently swapped to disk. Most programs that use substantial amounts of memory do a bit of management with their paging, and keep a lot of infrequently-used things paged to keep physical RAM usage down. Unless you're critically low on HD space, that's not much to worry about, it's keeping actual RAM free for processes that need it. If you want to see the actual split of paged vs unpaged RAM for a process, I can recommend SysInternals Process Explorer, which will also show you a lot of other information that you may find interesting.

[Charismatic]

My memory leak?
I'm not having any issues sir!

[Bardicrune]

My problem with upgrading to new FF is they change around too much stuff and it looks ugly. I can't even upgrade to the newest FF2 because they changed where the X is to close tabs. They're all next to each specific tab instead of in a static location on the right. I checked out the youtube vids of FF3 and they have that same shit there so.. no thanks.

about:config
browser.tabs.closeButtons

change value from 1 to 3

[Norelco]

My problem with upgrading to new FF is they change around too much stuff and it looks ugly. I can't even upgrade to the newest FF2 because they changed where the X is to close tabs. They're all next to each specific tab instead of in a static location on the right. I checked out the youtube vids of FF3 and they have that same shit there so.. no thanks.

about:config
browser.tabs.closeButtons

change value from 1 to 3

Well played, sir.

[Sythe]

And here it is lol

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ane/screen.jpg

[Akiyama]

Jesus Christ...

[Izzy]

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4...ocessesqz3.jpg
5 tabs open:
Newegg.com
BG
DynamisBums forum
HNMLS forum
UPS: Tracking information

[Maguspk]

I'm computer literate, build computers, all that other shit, and even I still managed to deduce that logically he meant 90k as in 90,000 kilobytes.

Of course, instead of being such a fucking jerk you could easily ask them if they mean 90kb or 90,000kb instead of acting like they're the idiots. If you know better, it makes you a fucking moron for needing them to say it your way without using your common sense.

Common sense is what compels me to use the correct words and abbreviations. 90k doesn't mean '90 kilo kilobytes' by any stretch of the imagination. It's a bad habit picked up from reading the badly-formatted numbers off of Task Manager.

But I guess I'm a fucking jerk and a fucking moron for asking people to actually type what they mean. Thanks for clearing that up without resorting to childish namecalling.

It's not badly formatted it's totally correct. It says XX,XXX K and that's the correct amount of memory usage. Equal to XX,XXX/1024 M or megabytes.