Best AP / tag

[fishstix]

If Eternal Damnation or Servitude are hitting multiple people, then you are really doing something wrong. And if anything really goes bad, its really easy to recover, unlike RvB where if anything goes wrong, the run is over.

I will say it again, if you like RvB then do it. It's just not the safest or most efficient option.

The same thing can be said about RvB, if too many NPCs die, then you're obviously doing something wrong. So... if everything is done "right" in both assaults:
Rondo: gather 6 ppl together, 1500 max points
RvB: gather 3 ppl together, 1666 max points

what's more efficient?

[ringthree]

If Eternal Damnation or Servitude are hitting multiple people, then you are really doing something wrong. And if anything really goes bad, its really easy to recover, unlike RvB where if anything goes wrong, the run is over.

I will say it again, if you like RvB then do it. It's just not the safest or most efficient option.

The same thing can be said about RvB, if too many NPCs die, then you're obviously doing something wrong. So... if everything is done "right" in both assaults:
Rondo: gather 6 ppl together, 1500 max points
RvB: gather 3 ppl together, 1666 max points

what's more efficient?

Guess your all right, only one possible answer! I will only be doing RvB from now on, and you can sleep well at night. Sorry for wasting your time with any kind of alternative suggestions.

[mdkuser]

Saving Private Ryaaf is a good option too if one of your member is SAM/NIN with Cyclone unlocked

THF and BARD+ any job leeching works too. as well as PLD/drg, basically jobs with lots of JA to intant-kill chigoes.

[Kerberoz]

Saving Private Ryaaf is a good option too if one of your member is SAM/NIN with Cyclone unlocked

THF and BARD+ any job leeching works too. as well as PLD/drg, basically jobs with lots of JA to intant-kill chigoes.

You don't even need to kill the chigoes. I used to farm that with blm + any sort of tank-ish job + leech. Have tank-ish person go in and aggro everything, sleepga, and move on to next room. They always deaggro before they wake up/get to you. Use the wiki chart to determine rooms, etc.

[Falaras]

I used to do The Susanoo Shuffle with Drk Sam Brd Rdm, occasionaly adding something else depending on who needed points. It was easy with almost no risk of loss but of course used 4 people instead of 3, which was fine considering we had to get 6+ people points a night for Salvage.

[Drex]

I do sam/drg for ryaaf, jumps one shot them and between meditate and sekka, there's always tp to go around for WSes.

[shieldsofwindurst]

Saving Private Ryaaf is a good option too if one of your member is SAM/NIN with Cyclone unlocked

THF and BARD+ any job leeching works too. as well as PLD/drg, basically jobs with lots of JA to intant-kill chigoes.

You don't even need to kill the chigoes. I used to farm that with blm + any sort of tank-ish job + leech. Have tank-ish person go in and aggro everything, sleepga, and move on to next room. They always deaggro before they wake up/get to you. Use the wiki chart to determine rooms, etc.

This works great for low rank people, I used to do it blm rdm rdm with a buffed rdm doing the tanking. You could probably have almost anyone tank as long as the sleeper (which I did as blm just fine) is on their game.

[iloteye]

I am suprised that i did not read anyone mention that a kiter on Red v Blue is not really even needed.
A healer @ npc , blm, then any job/smn as the 2nd at the BLU leader. Have the /smn stand about 20 feet away with carby out as the pop occurs, and sic carby on em as close as you can assault (18"). Lost hate on all but leader when carby dies, go in that tunnel and he will follow, have at him with the blm/DD. I go rdm/smn and help nuke and sleep after first AM2 just for security. 3-5 min later, no 2hrs, no sweat, full points =)

[Kaslo]

Amazed that Evade and Escape is not listed.... It's one of the easiest trio-able assaults and good lebros points, alot better than seigemaster imo...

[cdgreg]

I am suprised that i did not read anyone mention that a kiter on Red v Blue is not really even needed.
A healer @ npc , blm, then any job/smn as the 2nd at the BLU leader. Have the /smn stand about 20 feet away with carby out as the pop occurs, and sic carby on em as close as you can assault (18"). Lost hate on all but leader when carby dies, go in that tunnel and he will follow, have at him with the blm/DD. I go rdm/smn and help nuke and sleep after first AM2 just for security. 3-5 min later, no 2hrs, no sweat, full points =)

This is silly since I've never tried personally but is Raub sleepable? For some reason I assume he was immune since the ones that pop by the fighting NPC's are (I thought). I usually blm/rdm ES gravity, nuke, bind, nuke, nuke = dead raub. But there's been that occasional time he catches me with claw cyclone which blasts through SS and interrupts the spell, gravity wears early, or a back to back resist. It sure would be nice in the case of a rare emergency to know I can sleep him real quick and reapply SS/blink without worrying about a 2nd bind wearing off early.

[shieldsofwindurst]

This is silly since I've never tried personally but is Raub sleepable?

Yes. Has never resisted non-es Sleep(ga) 2 in the 10 or so times I've solo'd him. Best to go /rdm for grav, but you don't even really need it. Worse case you can bind him, but I'd imagine any decently geared blm is going to have no trouble sleeping him (and can just es it if he resists one randomly).

[cdgreg]

This is silly since I've never tried personally but is Raub sleepable?

Yes. Has never resisted non-es Sleep(ga) 2 in the 10 or so times I've solo'd him. Best to go /rdm for grav, but you don't even really need it. Worse case you can bind him, but I'd imagine any decently geared blm is going to have no trouble sleeping him (and can just es it if he resists one randomly).

Thanks, it really is rare that something can go wrong, but this knowledge pretty much ensures a safe recovery if something does.

[Domer]

If you had to pick one, what would you say is the best Mamool area AP/tag? I'm only 6k off of my yigit gloves.

[The Stig]

If you had to pick one, what would you say is the best Mamool area AP/tag? I'm only 6k off of my yigit gloves.

The PFC one (kill all mobs)

or

The one with the spies.

[Kerberoz]

Breaking Morale is great if you have 3 competent people who know what they're doing and get get 8/8 chests consistently.

[Lordwafik]

Breaking morale is the best mamool one for points with 3 people, but difficult. If it's too difficult for you, and you have people who are better at problem solving, do Double Agent.
I find double agent much easier as I've never been a stealthy person, I take my time to pick the right qiqirn and get it 1/1 most often than not.

[cdgreg]

there's definitely a major learning curve on breaking morale. First few times I got 0 chests lol, but if you do it with the same group of people repeatedly you each target the same chests and it becomes easy points. But it definitely takes some serious practice.

[Olo]

RvB is the best AP ever!!

There are so many ways to do it reliably its not even funny. My favorite 2 ways:

1) 2 BLMs + someone to start. The starter either keeps stuff healed or diaga kites while the 2 BLMs both start casting AM2s on the boss. Whoevers AM2 goes off first starts kiting while the other BLM (me!) finishes the boss off with very little effort.

2) 2 kiters + SAM or BLU. I stay at start as RDM/THF... pop it and diaga the enemy .. pop flee and run up to the boss and usually get there just in time to finish it with a tier 3 nuke. In the rare event that something goes wrong on the boss... i just chainspell nuke it down.

How on earth anyone could have a problem with either of these methods is beyond me. I'll do 3 of these in 15 minutes for a total of 5165 AP, if memory serves me correctly... each person takes turns with armband.

[Deband]

Anyone got tips for Counting Sheep or another Leujaoam Sanctum assault, Chief Seargeant or lower?

[Kaylia]

Anyone got tips for Counting Sheep or another Leujaoam Sanctum assault, Chief Seargeant or lower?

Counting sheep is generally easy if people know how it works. Using some communication when qiqirn need food help, but everyone should be able to free 2 sheeps within 15min (and there is 5).

Just mine for gold, and gamble silver ore.