6-man early bird catches the wyrm. (vid)

[Myst]

about a month and a half old. haven't seen it posted here.

yoich sam/nin
rng/sam (annihilator?)
rdm/nin (tank)
whm
blm
brd

i've been looking into lowmanning it myself, i found this pretty interesting. i'd bring 7-8 total for extra healing, looks like the white mage had a really hard time keeping up with aoe.

http://zoome.jp/yagamiyuu/diary/2

[Valisk]

Subject: 6-Man KS99 Early Bird Gets the Wyrm

[Tricen]

That was kinda weird... Relic gun and bow, and the guy with the bow was using onimaru...? And wtf@rdm casting SS in -enmity lawl.

[Falaras]

The onimaru was bad, the ranged attacking in Haste gear was worse.

[Naver]

That was kinda weird... Relic gun and bow, and the guy with the bow was using onimaru...? And wtf@rdm casting SS in -enmity lawl.

pretty sure the rdm was trying to cap out his stoneskin to 350 with all his available mnd gear.

[Tricen]

That was kinda weird... Relic gun and bow, and the guy with the bow was using onimaru...? And wtf@rdm casting SS in -enmity lawl.

pretty sure the rdm was trying to cap out his stoneskin to 350 with all his available mnd gear.

No wai. I would have never guessed. The point of rdm is to get hate, not get rid of it.

[aceofspades]

doesnt take much for a rdm to cap ss

[Naver]

Well seems this one was lazy and didn't bother to bring af pants, or perhaps they don't have af2 gloves or any other enhancing gear. Just saying there is more than 1 way to skin a cat, in this case maybe he didn't want to lug all that gear around and decided to use what he currently carries around to cap stoneskin.

[Naver]

That was kinda weird... Relic gun and bow, and the guy with the bow was using onimaru...? And wtf@rdm casting SS in -enmity lawl.

pretty sure the rdm was trying to cap out his stoneskin to 350 with all his available mnd gear.

No wai. I would have never guessed. The point of rdm is to get hate, not get rid of it.

I only watched like 5 mins of the video, if you watched the rest let me know but, the rdm hardly had hate to begin with even with spamming all those spells and trying his hardest. Granted if he didn't cast stoneskin in errant then maybe he would've had hate more often, but I'm thinking it was doomed from the start anyways.

[Caerloc]

Cause stoneskin is such a great hatetool that casting it in -enmity gear is gonna change anything in anyway...

[Thorny]

It's not so much that it makes a big difference as that there is no reason for it. My stoneskin macro on RDM has positive enmity, -38% phys or something magic depending on mob, and still capped at 350.. and I don't have enhancing merits or anything stupid like that.

[Caerloc]

It's not so much that it makes a big difference as that there is no reason for it. My stoneskin macro on RDM has positive enmity, -38% phys or something magic depending on mob, and still capped at 350.. and I don't have enhancing merits or anything stupid like that.

Stuff that doesnt make a difference isnt lolworthy. Im curious how you get the combination of 38% physical tho. I mostly used Terra-staff and Umbra cape which is 26% daytime and 32% night-time. Used jellyring for the oh-shit-where-did-my-shadows-go moments which would be 37% at night. I didnt have defending ring, i was next up for that, but i still dont see any combinatiion that gives a steady 38%, unless you wanna count umbra-capes night-time effect fulltime.

But yea, i only swapped in crimson scale mail and dvt mitts+1 for stoneskin, but you dont see me laughing, cause it doesnt matter one bit if he has -enmity in his SS macro.

[Tricen]

So he's casting SS and he gets hit, that's a lot of enmity lost. But it doesn't matter.

[Caerloc]

Why would you be casting stoneskin with your shadows down? Who is that dumb?

[Tricen]

Why would you be casting stoneskin with your shadows down? Who is that dumb?

You'd be surprised. Hurricane wing goes through shadows. A nonslowed wyrm can eat through shadows pretty fast.

[Caerloc]

Why would you be casting stoneskin with your shadows down? Who is that dumb?

You'd be surprised. Hurricane wing goes through shadows. A nonslowed wyrm can eat through shadows pretty fast.

I would be surprised actually. I've tanked countless Tiamats, Cerberus, Khimaira and w/e on rdm. Never not once have i been hit while casting stoneskin. Not to say i've never been hit, but never during stoneskin. That would take some pretty poor planning in my book.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Wings and Roars can happen

[Caerloc]

I dont know how you are gonna get hit right after you get roared in the first place, but atleast i have fair sense of when a mob is gonna ws, and im guessing most tanks do. Why you would start casting stoneskin when a mob is about to ws seems, like i said, like pisspoor planning.

Edit: If you mean Fafnirs roar, i dont know anyone who would bother to stoneskin for him. Or even use a rdm tank, since there is usually always some drk, war, nin or something else that does good dmg while tanking in the process. Not saying a rdm couldnt tank fafnir, just there are alot more effective jobs for that.. And... Its a pretty good chance faf is gonna take something else then your shadows, if you DO cast SS while he roars you.

[Thorny]

Terra's, Umbra, Dst. body+1, jelly, dst. sub+1.. but my main point was that if you're going to macro gear at all for something you should macro the best for it. If you can preserve some phys- and enm+ on the off chance something happens, there is no reason not to if you aren't sacrificing stoneskin potency. Depending on mob, replace with magic dmg- gear in the extra slots you have.

[Jakson]

That was kinda weird... Relic gun and bow, and the guy with the bow was using onimaru...? And wtf@rdm casting SS in -enmity lawl.

Maybe I'm getting wooshed, but I'm assuming since he wasn't planning on WSing with his GK, Onimaru would be better on a hit by hit basis, since that would be the opposite reason why you'd be using Hagun.