[Gilgamesh] Eeden

[Sirsnake]

Name : Eeden

* Jobs: WHM75, RDM75, BLM75, BRD75, PLD61 Subs(37+): SCH, DRK, SMN, WAR, NIN

* Previous LSs on Gilgamesh:
Emerald (HNM)
Interlopers (Dynamis)
SharkAttack (Salvage/former Sea/Limbus)

Apply : http://vendetta.fake-wings.de/index....ewtopic&t=3050


Thx for info

[rithridan]

Eeden is(was?) in my salvage group and I heard the news this morning. She's a good player and has a well equipped whm, rdm and brd from what I've seen. I'm sad she leaves because this makes the already small .eu community on Gilgamesh even smaller, which is also the reason she wants to switch servers.

*shameless advert*
"Are you a decent WHM interested in Salvage during EU times on Wednesday evening and Saturday/Sunday afternoon and do you reside on Gilgamesh? send a tell to Rithridan or Ryosuke!"

[Guggler]

Met Eeden when we were exp'ing our first 75 jobs when I was still on Gilga (miss u guys). Was friends ever since, mostly just bs'ing and talking over msgs and saying hi and stuff. Always answered any questions I had and helped out when I needed it. Kind of went seperate ways on ls's, but always was friendly and was a dam good rdm and whm w/e we got together to merit. Had some pretty decent gear also. She was always at king camps and events from what I noticed (for my short time I spent in a opposing kings ls). Definately a good addition to any ls. Take care Eeden ^^.

[President]

Lol, I was expecting her to leave our Salvage shell after getting Morrigan legs, but leave the server? Sigh. I would never accept her into my ls, she's a leecher and this is like the 4th time she has quit a ls that I've been a member off. She quit my sky ls, quit my sea ls, quit my salvage ls to "get some time to get a.body", then she came back to my salvage ls after getting a.body, got her morrigan legs, then quits - what a suprise. She even said she was gonna quit once she got her stuff to some other members, and here we are.

[HarkenGilgamesh]

Lol, I was expecting her to leave our Salvage shell after getting Morrigan legs, but leave the server? Sigh. I would never accept her into my ls, she's a leecher and this is like the 4th time she has quit a ls that I've been a member off. She quit my sky ls, quit my sea ls, quit my salvage ls to "get some time to get a.body", then she came back to my salvage ls after getting a.body, got her morrigan legs, then quits - what a suprise. She even said she was gonna quit once she got her stuff to some other members, and here we are.

This is 100% true, even though eeden is a nice person.

[Sumiko]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that Eeden's a good person to have around. She's far from disloyal-- it was most likely just bad timing that resulted in her actions with the morrigan legs. It's hard for me to speak from an outside perspective but she's been in Interlopers the moment she entered Emerald. Interlopers required her to wake up at crazy times just so she could participate-- 2:00 AM was the start time for her, if I remember correctly.

And she still has 100 something points (we get 3 points per run) that she has on Red Mage hat. She could have easily decided to go with a EU dynamis shell on Gilgamesh, but decided to stick with her friends (And, in case you're wondering if she just has to keep up her points, no one was really behind or ahead of her by far to the point she would just come for runs to keep up her points. She came to help if we needed). If that's not dedication, I don't know what is. And btw, since she switched servers, she never got a chance to use her points.

If she really was as bad as you're making it out to be then she totally would've just planned to spend all her points and gotten what she wanted then leave. But I can tell you that it's not the case with her. I'm sad she's leaving Gilgamesh, but it's all for the better so she doesn't have to wake up at 2-freaking:00AM just to play a game with her non EU friends and mess up her body.

She's a very nice person and I think she deserves a break from being harassed by people just because she wants to have an easier time playing a game that's supposed to pull you away from stress in the first place.

[Mandog]

Eeden is a good player and imo not a leech, she would camp kings with our linkshell and got an abody for it, not leeched she worked for it. shes a good player and any linkshell would benefit from having her in their linkshell, only problem was that we are mostly a NA linkshell and shes EU so times for her im sure sucked.

[President]

Sumiko, let me tell you something, you dont decide to leave the server 5min before you leave. Im not gonna speculate about how she were thinking about Dynamis, but its not like she wouldnt have left even if she got her hat. And whats all this stuff about she suddenly wanting to play in EU times? EU events is exaclty what shes been leaving ever since i met her. She have done almost every event in this game in EU times and left them for Emerald. And now she suddenly wants to start playing in EU times again?

And there was no bad timing or anything like that on the Morrigan legs. After quitting the LS once and when she came back, she changed her wishing-list so that she could be nr.1 for Morrigan legs. To begin with Morrigan feet was her nr.1, but since she couldnt be nr.1 to lot them, she changed her list. So she gets them and what happends? She starts lvling SCH during Salvage events and the next thing we hear is shes leaving the server. I mean cmon.

[Haily]

she has quit a ls that I've been a member off. She quit my sky ls, quit my sea ls, quit my salvage ls

I think there may be a pattern here...

Eeden's always been dedicated and a skilled player in Emerald (HNM/Endgame) and Interlopers (Dynamis), which are the linkshells I'm in with her. Definitely not a leech, any items she got she earned the same as everyone else. If she's a leech then everyone is.

Probably a lot of the above leaving shells had to with joining Emerald as well- we do try to be a one-event-linkshell and there is a lot of pressure on people who have other event shells to leave them. We are also one of the major endgame linkshells on the server, there isn't really a EU one. (I'm thinking Spoondaggers, Osiris and Emerald here as the main three, the others come and go)

Emerald and Interlopers both base most planned events on NA time, so its not at all strange for her to want to try do some EU time with a good group and maybe actually be able to enjoy herself and not be half asleep!

[AoshiZ]

Eeden was a very loyal player with alot of skill and morals. Enolaz and I will definately miss her presence on Gilgamesh.

I see only one anonymous person ("President") that has anything bad to say. So for anyone possibly considering Eeden, please keep in mind that the Sumiko, Mandog, and anyone else supporting Eeden here are all known players on Gilgamesh that support her.

[S N K]

Speaking from an outsider perspective, Why would she continue to play in EU times if she was forced to get up so damn early in the morning?

If she really wanted to hang with her friends then that's what a Linkshell is for. I'm sure she could have found another Salvage group within a more comfortable timeframe and not have this little bit of drama happen.

In regards to President's comment the whole "Jumping to a shell to get a Dalmatica" and then leaving I have to agree with if that's what happened. I sure as shit don't want to waste my time gearing up people who just get their gear and bail on the shell.

If you're intending to leave the shell and only join to get gear just to leave later then I wouldn't want anything to do with you either.

She might be a nice person which I'm not debating but the constant shell hopping along with leaving the server that her "friends" were on makes me question what she really wants more.

Friendship or Gear?

[rithridan]

Speaking from an outsider perspective, Why would she continue to play in EU times if she was forced to get up so damn early in the morning?

If she really wanted to hang with her friends then that's what a Linkshell is for. I'm sure she could have found another Salvage group within a more comfortable timeframe and not have this little bit of drama happen.

Not sure if I understand you wrong or if you are mistaken in the situation. Eeden is a EU player who was in Emerald (US) for hnms, Interlopers (US) for dynamis and SAlvage (EU) for salvage. So salvage was the only thing that was actually in a good timeframe for her while dynamis and Emerald's events were usually very late (2am++).

[S N K]

Not sure if I understand you wrong or if you are mistaken in the situation. Eeden is a EU player who was in Emerald (US) for hnms, Interlopers (US) for dynamis and SAlvage (EU) for salvage. So salvage was the only thing that was actually in a good timeframe for her while dynamis and Emerald's events were usually very late (2am++).

ok then yeah I misread it backwards then. Just generally I can relate and understand how that would work.

The only thing that raised an eyebrow was the whole "Jumping to get an A.body" then joining another shell afterwards. I don't know her either way but just from what I've read so far it was the impression I was getting.

Don't take any offense to what I'm saying tho seeing as like I said before I wasn't there so I don't really know what happened either way.

[OctavoGilgamesh]

Eeden is a great person. Don't let some anon idiot who is pissed off about some irrelevant Salvage bs fool you. I hope Chi is right that she got in.

There is no abody drama with her, put that to rest.

I remember she used to get up at 6:00 am on her Saturday to do an enm static with myself and a couple other Emerald members. She will be a great addition to the op's ls and I hope her the best.

[S N K]

Coolness then. Best of luck to her.~

[Eeden]

/sigh, I didnt want to post in my own BC but this is going out of hand. I have my mistakes, everyone has, its human, but I dont think hoping LS and leeching are one of those.


About the "4 LS" Storeb aka President is talking about (And I'm really sorry Helo that I and whoever else was thinking President is you):
His sky LS PM was my very first "HNM LS" I was ever in, I joined it um... what 3 years ago when I was a RDM65? I had my resons to leave it a year later...

His sea/Limbus LS SA was a sister LS of PM which I got pearled the day I poped in sea after Airship fight. And I stayed in SA for more then half year after I applied to Emerald.

His Salvage LS is not even a LS its a group of people from SA doing Salvage.

Emerald was my first real HNMLS I ever joined and I was wearing the pearl until SE took it from me with the server switch. NOT after I got my A.Body.

I left SA because I did 2x Limbus, 1x Sea, 3x Salvage with them each week + the events and camping I did with Emerald and Interlopers and it was way to much for me at this point.

The mistake I did was going back to Salvage and getting the legs Storeb was after as well. And no, at this point I was not thinking about leaving either the group nor the server. This decision came after and had nothing to do with Salvage or that I got the legs like he is trying to make it look like.

and lol @ Harken, look who is talking....

[S N K]

Maybe there was a reason the person was being a bitch? There are two-sides to every coin afterall. I would surmise also this his arguement might have more substance if other people from the shell she was a part of spoke up and posted here as well. No offense to you President but, Unless you're able to produce more people from your ls who have had an experience with her like you have then for now it's just a she said/he said arguement.

Usually when a background check is made here on someone who has a less the stellar reputation, the responses are pretty straightfoward from several people at once all saying the same thing. If you have others who share your viewpoint and can provide more details then what you've submitted so far then I'd suggest you do so seeing as you're pissing in the wind so to speak.

[rithridan]

Maybe there was a reason the person was being a bitch? There are two-sides to every coin afterall. I would surmise also this his arguement might have more substance if other people from the shell she was a part of spoke up and posted here as well. No offense to you President but, Unless you're able to produce more people from your ls who have had an experience with her like you have then for now it's just a she said/he said arguement.

Usually when a background check is made here on someone who has a less the stellar reputation, the responses are pretty straightfoward from several people at once all saying the same thing. If you have others who share your viewpoint and can provide more details then what you've submitted so far then I'd suggest you do so seeing as you're pissing in the wind so to speak.

From what I know not many people from our group read BG (I only know of 4 that have an account here). I can't really speak for the rest but I think the general consensus is that we wish Eeden the best in her new linkshell and server. The times she was in the linkshell she was an active player doing a good job with whatever task was at hand (be it being WHM BRD or RDM). She was always a reliable player apart from the few hiccups when she took a break / left for a few months. In no way was she a leech, though I can't dig up the statistics I think she had more runs attended in salvage then more then half the group even with her taking breaks.

I don't remember anything about the sea/raise incident, I might have forgotten it or not have been there at the time. She does have a record of being 'bitchy' at times but if you take into account she got pressure from 1 LS for being in 2. Sorry Eme, thats just what I've kept hearing. We never pressured her to stay in our LS whenever the topic came at hand which is the reason why she took the decision to leave our limbus/sea LS and take a break in our salvage group. I think its understandable that it can be too much for one person to handle at all times.

Finally, the comment about leaving once she got her stuff was made in tells/party to a different person and I only have his word for it. But from what I remember mainly came from the frustration of our luck in salvage and probably lack of rules/leadership. We have a couple of people who are very lucky in salvage and have are even as close as 12/15 of a set while others dont even have 1 completed piece (attendance is also in issue in this, if you aren't there you can't get anything). I don't really feel like explaining how our system works but its safe to say its prone to "but why him and not me" and very reliant on the group working as friends instead of competition.

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The only thing that bugged me was that she left without any real headsup. It basicly felt like "hey guys, your only whm is leaving, good luck doing salvage without one!" *poof*. Leaving us (me) fixing the hole in our group _again_. The first time with her going on her A.Body break, tho I saw that one coming a mile away. This was more sudden and unexpected for me even with the comment she made about leaving after getting her stuff which I discarded as being frustrated at the time.

Lets give this topic a rest, its over and done with. I wouldn't mind this getting locked because everything that could possibly be said has been said. Good luck on your new server Eeden.