Tier 1-4 ZNMs Discussion

[Thorny]

For my group, tyger was easier than tinnin by a long shot, but that may be due to our setup or something. If you have 12 people who have any idea what they're doing, none of them are very difficult at all though.

Edit: Regarding ZNM rage, it seems to be about 45 minutes on T3 and caps their magic resistance + gives them ridiculous physical defense. I do not believe any offensive stats nor regain are changed, which seems counterproductive for a rage timer >_> The mobs are still killable, but you're down to DoT and ele sealed nukes for damage >.<

[Kaope]

The OP link http://ffxinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=283 seems to be broken, did Bercus take down of the copied post or something? ><; I've just recently formatted my computer and alas I didn't save the OP, does anyone else have it?

[Kaylia]

Never bothered re-writing the final version, but it's the most recent one I have on my hd (think it's the same one bercus had).

[Kaylia]

I failled, couldnt attach the .txt because it was too big.

Just delete the ".zip" extension to be able to open it.

[Avarice]

Several pages late, but for Sarameya: "- When Blaze Spike effect is on (spell or Magma Hoplon), it will regen ~500hp/tick (rough estimate)"

I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this.

[Zilong]

Bullshit on what? 1%/tick regen on sarameya during blaze spike?

Either you're not using tparty, or you're fucking retarded, either way it's there, and you really should see it.

[Kaylia]

Several pages late, but for Sarameya: "- When Blaze Spike effect is on (spell or Magma Hoplon), it will regen ~500hp/tick (rough estimate)"

I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this.

Sure, go ahead and don't dispel it.

[Elondir]

Several pages late, but for Sarameya: "- When Blaze Spike effect is on (spell or Magma Hoplon), it will regen ~500hp/tick (rough estimate)"

I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this.

You'll learn pretty quick that this is accurate when you fight it. The fight can take 2x as long as it should if you don't dispel after hoplon fast enough.

[Tovion]

Ok. Here's out situation. We are wanting to kill Experimental Lamia. Have a decent sized group for it, but wanting to do 5-6 pops.

Has anyone figured out a effective strategy for killing on the middle floor so there is no pulling to the zone and have to tractor or run around again?

Seems simple enough to just clear middle floor, and fight the east corner only having to kill one VT skeleton. Has anyone tried this or figured out any other methods of effectively killing multiples on this NM?

[zard1977]

Its just as you said, camp at the eastern edge of the middle floor. Only 1 skeleton to deal with.
No need to clear the floor at all, the only mob that can aggro you is the skeleton.
The NM is a ranger and its easy to pop it, then run back to camp without getting any other aggro along the way.