Alexandrites

[Almalexia]

No linen purses from boss in Zhayolm. Major bummer. However,

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[Kaylia]

As nice as 3 gears alexendrite is, it's kinda pathetic compared to the amount you can get off boss and nm. We rarely kill more than a few per run

[Judai]

Well, we did get 61 Alex on the 1st Floor in Bhaf Kay..(MB up and like 6 Widows) Would have been nice to finish it with a Boss Purse though. Got 70 total.

[Crosis]

No drop from Silver Sea boss, so this is pretty worthless if its not 100%.

[Kaylia]

I know, but 6 spider isn't the norm sadly. I can imagine many run with shit drops.

It was asked several time, but I didnt see any answers (since the update). Did anyone try to duplicate your bag at the socket? I know it won't work, but I'm still hoping for a miracle >_>

[mdkuser]

lets's see.

I know which zone is the worse for farming alexandrites! Bhaflau.

I know which is the best! arrapgo!

And sad boss isn't 100%.


yesterday 53 alexandrites for 1F full+4F (5mn) + boss run, 4 spiders, no boss drop.

[rithridan]

Is it me, or is everyone getting way more NM pops in Bhaflau now? Like everyone since the update has had MB be up and loads of GW pop. Probably it's just the ones that got something that posted.

[Judai]

MB is up pretty often for us and GWs pop alot, they just never drop shit. (until last night when we finally got our 1st Marduk 35 in like 9 months)

[Miraun]

I know, but 6 spider isn't the norm sadly. I can imagine many run with shit drops.

It was asked several time, but I didnt see any answers (since the update). Did anyone try to duplicate your bag at the socket? I know it won't work, but I'm still hoping for a miracle >_>

This would be amazing...

[Kuroshi]

Can't say from experience what my group's gotten(first run after update is friday) I wonder if the absurd number of alexandrite, coupled with the mentality "oh, it might be doable now.." will cause everyone to justify the use of 'shady assault'.

Or perhaps they ninja-patch'd it in the update, idk Anyone tried still?

[Miraun]

As nobody is close to upgrading a relic, we should also keep in mind the possibility of a sizable return on Alexandrites upon submission. This would mirror the 30 100 piece return upon completion of a relic. Maybe return 10k alexandrites? (excessive, but possible)

[Slott]

Yeah that'd be great. "Please come back after sorting your inventory."..

[Waef]

lol, maybe he stores it then? Or you only get 99 back.

[Spekkio]

Double skadi legs and nothing else from mega >_> I thought it was 100% dammit.

lucky, we were after exactly that and were handed double ea's body and no purse. after the horrible drop rate on cells in the zone, getting that boss drop was just an extra kick in the teeth for us, hoping at least for a few shiny rocks or a pair of pants for our troubles. probably similar drop rate on linen pouch as cotton pouch from 35 NMs.

[Kaylia]

lucky, we were after exactly that and were handed double ea's body and no purse. after the horrible drop rate on cells in the zone, getting that boss drop was just an extra kick in the teeth for us, hoping at least for a few shiny rocks or a pair of pants for our troubles. probably similar drop rate on linen pouch as cotton pouch from 35 NMs.

I meant skadi feet (was doing bhaf), but yeah, it's retarded

[Hanyoko]

Also all these reported high drop rates could be the placebo of the 'item drop over time' and the system notices that non have dropped in a long time. Kinda like how Zhayolm 5FN, 6F dropped gear like it was constipated for 3 months after the first few pops.

[Spekkio]

well let's try to get a fix on what an "average" run will drop. let's assume that 2/3 of our runs are focusing exclusively on 35's and 1/3 of our runs are mostly targeting bosses w/ some 35 poking on the side. it's probably more weighted towards 35 farming, but hey, sometimes you make a boss when you didn't expect it. let's also guess about a 50% drop rate on pouches. my group so far has seen significantly less, but others seem to be getting more, so i'd say that's a nice happy medium to assume w/ easy to do math. let's also say that for about every 2 gears you kill, you'll get 1 alex (again, our group saw far poorer since update, but others have seen more, so let's compromise.) also, assume 75-100 alex per big bag and 5-20 per small and an even distribution. yes, a lot of guesses, but most are splitting the road guesses and probably not that far off.

let's build profiles for each zone for farming and boss, assuming a decent, but not top notch group. players who can consistently win bosses, but maybe not pull off hammerblow, powderkeg, g3, CC, and boss all in 1 run. i know some groups can (though i can't figure out how the hell you could pull that all off in 1 run despite hearing claims that people have...) but they're not going to be the average players earning most of the rocks.

arrapago, 35's run: assuming you can get the 6th floor rats, that's 6 rats, chariot, and bhoot/flayer if you're on your game, plus probably about 17 gears. 8.5 alex from gears, 4 pouches at 12.5 per pouch on avg results in 58.5 alex on average.

arrapago boss run: say about 17 gears cleared, 4 rats, chariot, and boss.
8.5 from gears, 2.5 pouches at 12.5 per pouch (31.25 alex), and 50% odds on a 75-100 pouch (EV of 43.75 alex per run) for a total of 83.5 alex per run.

bhaflau 35's run: not much machinery will die beyond the 2 ramparts unless you're doing peryton, so figure maybe 2 alex on average from machinery. let's say you're lucky and get 4 mobs to pop on a run from the ramparts (our average is probably like 1 every 3 runs...) so that's 2+25=27 alex per run.

bhaflau boss run: 1 rampart dies, maybe 1 35 mob if you're lucky since you have limited time to farm, and boss pouch at 43.75 EV per run. 56.75 per run avg.

ssr farming: assuming hammer>dekka>G1>G3>CC that's 5 35 mobs, and 8+8+1+6+4 machines killed for 13.5 alex per run from machines plus 31.25 from pouches for 44.75 per run.

ssr boss: assume hammer>powder>G3>boss (what we usually do, your mileage may vary) that's 8 machines, 3 NMs so 4+37.5+43.75=85.25 per run avg.

zhaolym farming is fairly similar to boss though if you're slow, you may not make boss if you're spending time to clear first floor and such. let's just hedge our bets and say they're 1 in the same. 13 machines, 2 35 droppers, and boss. that's 6.5, 25, and 43.75 for 75.25.

so, assuming an equal distribution of zones (for each zhaolym done, an arrap, a bhaf, and an ssr will be done) and the 2:1 ratio of farming vs boss runs, that's an average run for a group over a long period of time being ((58.5*2+83.5)/3+(27*2+56.75)/3+(44.75*2+85.25)/3+75.25)/4
(~67+~37+~58+~75)/4=~59 alexandrite a run produced by an average group. now figure how many groups per server run a day and you can get a daily production of alexandrite. compare that to the average daily production of relic currency and i'd be surprised if they're not at least somewhat similar, meaning these will maintain a reasonable price for the forseeable future. other factors help to ensure this price will stay high such as the ease of holding dynamis currency until the last second as seen above whereas alexandrite, since they don't stack, are largely consumed as they're purchased so you don't get the same sort of supply shocks when someone quits.

[TB]

Arrapago Remnants: QQA x2, QQTH x4, Bhoot, Chariot, Mega Boss

Got 2 small purse from Chariot and 6F QQTH. 37 Alexandrite total. -_-

[Lordwafik]

SSR run, Hammer>Powder>g3g > exit. 3 Pouches, 5, 7, 9 alexandrites respectively, and the gears we cleared in the g3g room dropped 0 except for 2 which dropped 1 and 2.

Fuck Alexandrites, everything in salvage should drop them with the cost of 30,000. Especially considering the majority of WS's blow, and you only get aftermath after using sucky WS.

[Ayn]

They should let you trade Eas and Freyr's drops for Alexandrites.